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Here is a good example of the extreme intolerance and nastiness of liberal activists. An anti-bullying leader delivers a speech in front of young people where he curses, uses lewd language, and bashes Christian students. He is suppose to be the leader of anti-bullying, but he is the bully.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... teens.html


The main thesis of Kaczysnki that I agree with is that the industrial revolution and progress of technology is the source of all our social problems and it is healthier and empowering for people to live in small groups, like the Amish, using small-group technology. Think of it. There could never be feminism without an advanced materialistic civilization to support it. With high technology you can make it comfortable enough for a fashion model to be the driver of a tank, or call herself a policeman or fire man. Look at our society. The scum is rising to the top and taking over. You have no idea what hell is and how bad it is going to get.


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Mr. Peabody wrote:
Look at our society. The scum is rising to the top and taking over. You have no idea what hell is and how bad it is going to get.
I am in total agreement.

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thomas sowell and milton friedman's feces alone are 10 trillion times more valuable than the entire obama family and all the lefties in washington d.c..
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It seems that most young people today are liberals, especially in Western countries.

So why is it that we don't have any liberals on this forum?

The people here seem to have strong right wing views, especially when it comes to men and women.
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Winston wrote:The media seems to present Liberals as more progressive, open minded, tolerant and caring than Conservatives. And they portray Conservatives as backward, narrow, rigid and old fashioned.

I used to think that too, back in the 1990's during the Clinton Era. But I've come to realize that that may not be true after all and that it's most likely just media brainwashing again and their tendency to portray the opposite of what's true. Consider the following:

- Conservatives that I've known seem more tolerant and down to earth. If I don't agree with them, they will still be my friend. But with liberals, if I don't agree with them, they get angry and uptight and cease our friendship.
- Liberals are behind political correctness, which restricts free speech and often impedes the truth too, so that you can't be too honest around PC people. To me, that's an attempt to take away my freedom and free speech.
- Liberals are behind multi-culturalism, which has proven to be a disaster. Races tend to stick in cliques and there is hostile tension between them, like in LA for example. It's brought down society and made it very segregated. On the other hand, in the 1950's, when America was predominantly all white, the country was the most successful and prosperous and efficient. There was no breakdown of society and culture, or segregation.
- Liberals are also behind feminism, which instills a man-hating attitude in women which makes them very unfeminine and unattractive to men. No normal guy likes masculine women.

Neither extreme on either side is good. And as a Libertarian, I'm not for either Liberals or Conservatives. But that's my take on it.

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Winston if it wasn't for liberals, then you would have never immigrated to the west, back then, Immigration was only from Europe and there were laws to keep it that way, you can't have your cake and eat it too. It's like you're trying to bite the same hand that feeds you. If it wasn't for liberals, then Africa and much of South East Asia would still be under European Colonialism. If you don't like liberals, then let's go down the path of Hitler, or 1950 style segregation. That means white women would become much much more feminine and there wouldn't be any reason for a white man to go to Asia to find a feminine woman, and you wouldn't even have a chance of trying to date a white woman because they would either be still in their parents home being groomed for marriage to a white guy, or they would already be married to a white guy. You either like multiculturalism or we head down the path of true segregation :lol:
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There's no such thing as a liberal or a conservative. These are terms created by the oligarchs to mess with our minds. Peoples' political views are far too complex to be labeled as "liberal or conservative". As far as tolerance goes, I would say that capitalist, and right wing free market type environments are often the least tolerant.

Take Singapore for example. Men with long hair will be tended to last. Workers who strike will be thrown in prison. You get caned for spray painting graffiti. It is illegal to possess pron in Sg. You can't spit, can't chew gum, can't do much of anything. Hong Kong is also similarly intolerant. You can't even eat on the subway, and there is a video circulating on the internet of a Honger abusing a child for eating on the subway. Now I am not saying that eating on the subway, pron, spitting, or spray painting graffiti is good, but generally speaking, free markets are associated with intolerance. Also, in places where the free market prevail, whether it be USA, or Canada, ordinary people tend to suffer. You can't even sell socks on the street, because you are in direct competition with the bigger businesses that sell it for more.

So the corrupt governments representing big business end up carrying out fascist acts that put the pressure on ordinary small merchants. If you try to sell something on the street, then you get arrested, or your goods confiscated. A lot of countries have a strong tradition of street vendors, and this has largely been wiped out by the free market. Singapore, and Hong Kong were voted as the most economically free. Isn't it funny how economic freedom just translates into fascism, or denial of personal freedoms.
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The free market is liberal.
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Winston wrote:It seems that most young people today are liberals, especially in Western countries.

So why is it that we don't have any liberals on this forum?

The people here seem to have strong right wing views, especially when it comes to men and women.
Because most people are conformists and the major social pressure now is to make young people liberal and politically correct. The people here tend to be non-conformists who feel socially rejected.
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VictimOfCapitalism wrote:([from Moderator] Please use paragraphs next time you post, Please!)

There's no such thing as a liberal or a conservative. These are terms created by the oligarchs to mess with our minds. Peoples' political views are far too complex to be labeled as "liberal or conservative". As far as tolerance goes, I would say that capitalist, and right wing free market type environments are often the least tolerant.

Take Singapore for example. Men with long hair will be tended to last. Workers who strike will be thrown in prison. You get caned for spray painting graffiti. It is illegal to possess pron in Sg. You can't spit, can't chew gum, can't do much of anything. Hong Kong is also similarly intolerant. You can't even eat on the subway, and there is a video circulating on the internet of a Honger abusing a child for eating on the subway. Now I am not saying that eating on the subway, pron, spitting, or spray painting graffiti is good, but generally speaking, free markets are associated with intolerance. Also, in places where the free market prevail, whether it be USA, or Canada, ordinary people tend to suffer. You can't even sell socks on the street, because you are in direct competition with the bigger businesses that sell it for more.

So the corrupt governments representing big business end up carrying out fascist acts that put the pressure on ordinary small merchants. If you try to sell something on the street, then you get arrested, or your goods confiscated. A lot of countries have a strong tradition of street vendors, and this has largely been wiped out by the free market. Singapore, and Hong Kong were voted as the most economically free. Isn't it funny how economic freedom just translates into fascism, or denial of personal freedoms.
This is just me, but I would argue most countries are not free (economically or otherwise). In a sense, they have adopted the corpratist plank of fascism, and many have also adopted the militarism and patriotism. The only thing left is the details of trying to cram everyone in via the legends of the state (ie country exceptional ism, chants, etc.) and authoritarianism, which is coming as we speak. It is well said that when fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the flag and cross.
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Most kids are liberal because most kids want to be counter cultural, and the only counterbalance to republicanism is modern socialism. Also, many people take the path of least resistance (they can have their freedom of choice while taking other people's money (Rothbard's For a New liberty)). Also, most kids are in the public schools, and are taught to look to government for answers (best ploy: the enviroment, never mind that the biggest polluter is the government itself!).

As for tolerance, I have seen both. A counselor I talked with was liberal, and I am libertarian, and we had some common ground (free trade, cronyism, etc.) .He was also an agnostic, and took economics in school, so I think he might understand the economy a tad bit better than most liberals. Same for conservatives. I think it may be generational as well, since both (the other one was my poly sci teacher, who fought in WWII), and although we disagreed, we had an understanding. With others, I think many are reddit keyboard warriors, and can't look past the point that they are wrong. I think having been wrong in the past and changing my view may have affected how I try to respond to others, as well as my views on panarchism.
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This video explains how people are getting sick and tired of liberals and their hatred of free speech and liberty. Liberals and progressives are the new thought police and absolutely hate anyone disagreeing with them. Liberalism is the new puritanism.

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Winston wrote:The media seems to present Liberals as more progressive, open minded, tolerant and caring than Conservatives. And they portray Conservatives as backward, narrow, rigid and old fashioned.

I used to think that too, back in the 1990's during the Clinton Era. But I've come to realize that that may not be true after all and that it's most likely just media brainwashing again and their tendency to portray the opposite of what's true. Consider the following:

- Conservatives that I've known seem more tolerant and down to earth. If I don't agree with them, they will still be my friend. But with liberals, if I don't agree with them, they get angry and uptight and cease our friendship.
- Liberals are behind political correctness, which restricts free speech and often impedes the truth too, so that you can't be too honest around PC people. To me, that's an attempt to take away my freedom and free speech.
- Liberals are behind multi-culturalism, which has proven to be a disaster. Races tend to stick in cliques and there is hostile tension between them, like in LA for example. It's brought down society and made it very segregated. On the other hand, in the 1950's, when America was predominantly all white, the country was the most successful and prosperous and efficient. There was no breakdown of society and culture, or segregation.
- Liberals are also behind feminism, which instills a man-hating attitude in women which makes them very unfeminine and unattractive to men. No normal guy likes masculine women.

Neither extreme on either side is good. And as a Libertarian, I'm not for either Liberals or Conservatives. But that's my take on it.

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Winston, you have made some great points and observations about liberalism. Personally I can't stand extreme liberalism and I find them to be very patronizing. Particularly,when concerns issues of racial minorities. Also, it seems to me Winston that liberalism in America is more like a CULT OR FANATICAL RELIGION!!! What I mean by this is that political correctness is like some sort of "gospel" truth and if anyone dares to speak against it commits "heresy" or "blasphemy". Not to mention, the media personalities and university professors act like the "high priest" in being PC. In addition, liberals such as feminists have declared certain groups to be "sacred cows" such a women who are "infallible", "always the victim", and above any criticism or reproach no matter how true or accurate. Thus, making it a "social taboo" to talk about these things publicly. But most of all I have observed the liberals who are obsessed with political correctness are the "blind leading the blind" in which they want people to have a blind faith/following without critical thinking or questioning what is being said or promoted. As for conservatives Winston I happen to agree with you on that point in which I too find them to be more tolerant and down-to-earth (even when I don't agree with them on certain points or issues) than with so-called liberals. However, I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative but rather more of an independent or libertarian in thought/philosophy/politics.
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Liberals verbally assault a man in London just because he is holding up a sign that says, "The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended."

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Isn't it funny that liberals see themselves as progressive and tolerant, but they don't seem to want to talk to strangers, and they don't seem down to earth either. They seem very cliquish. Have you all noticed that? Why is that?

It also seems that conservative and right wing people are more open and comfortable talking to strangers. Why is that?
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So-called liberals are always aggressive towards anybody who disagrees with them.

They always want to force you to accept their opinion as the only true one. There is no place for any other opinion.

For example feminists consider themselves as liberals, but they are hateful even against women, who do not agree with them.

Another so-called liberal group are vegans - they are indeed disturbing others with their activities, by entering restaurants and markets serving or selling meat and shout hateful slogans to customers.

Also child-protectors can act badly, basically all is the fault of parents and the society, and what the child is doing - even very bad actions, even criminal behavior is irrelevant. For them a child is everybody between 0 and 18 and any form of punishment is child abuse...

Also in USA some black people have the crazy idea, that only a white person can be a racist...

Some Muslim activists are also coming to my mind, and anti-abortion groups too.

Liberals want to force me to do this or that, despite I disagree with them. Why should a minority be allowed to force a majority to do something against their will?
For example:

You want to be a Muslim, I have no problem with that - but why do you want me also to become a Muslim?
You do not eat meat, I have no problem with that - but why do you want me also not to eat meat?

etc.etc.


Basically said, for me liberals are people presenting a minority, but demanding respect for their agenda, but are totally unwilling to show tolerance towards others who disagree with them.
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