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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by ethan_sg » October 4th, 2015, 9:59 pm

Why don't we see any mass murder, mass imprisonment and murdering at will by the governments in countries like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore then? In fact most countries around the world have either outright banned gun ownership altogether or have far stricter regulations and barriers against gun ownership - the US has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world by a country mile. Yet how come so many of us Happier Abroaders feel happier, safer and even freer in countries outside the US, many of which have far stricter regulations against gun ownership?

Gun ownership is just a pacifier given to you by those in power to give you the illusion of freedom.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Adama » October 5th, 2015, 2:01 am

When someone tries to take your weapon from you, they aren't trying to protect you or look out for your best interests. They're trying to make sure that when they are ready, you won't be able to fight back.

The reason why half the world is unarmed and not yet being massed murdered is because of the spread of information. It would become known in the USA and other places where guns are still legal that people on the other side of the world in gun free countries are being mass murdered.

They are waiting until they can disarm everyone world wide. If they began the genocide of humanity now, it would only reinforce the need for guns to everyone in the USA. If they wait until everyone is disarmed world wide, it will be too late to think about gun rights and protecting yourself. That is why they are not yet genociding people currently. They are waiting until they can convince everyone that they need to give up guns. Then that is when the murder will begin.


Now if you are truly curious about this issue, you should search on your own for all the genocides that happened after guns were confiscated throughout history. This is fact. Disarming the populace always meant later mass murder. It isnt happening right now in those countries only because they can not prevent the spread of information into free societies. The US and some other countries are still somewhat free. So they can not block incoming information. And if such information became known, the gun totters will harden their stance, and those idiots who were asleep would wake up to the system and turn from communist self-haters into pro life conservatives.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Adama » October 5th, 2015, 2:03 am

ethan_sg wrote:

Gun ownership is just a pacifier given to you by those in power to give you the illusion of freedom.

Oh my goodness. You have to be one of the biggest fools of all time. Seriously. You are dumber than a box of rocks. Just keep your mouth shut from now on. You'll only embarrass yourself further which such ignorance, like a child intruding into adult conversation.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by jamesbond » October 5th, 2015, 9:11 am

Even if all the guns were removed from people in the United States, the bad guys would STILL be able to get guns illegally and then go out and shoot the unarmed citizens.

Cities in America that have the strictest gun control laws also have the most killings with guns! For example Chicago has the strictest gun control laws in the country and it also has the highest murder rate of any city in the country!

Anyone who thinks taking away people's guns will keep people from shooting others with guns is completely clueless.

Oh yeah, there is this thing called the second amendment which is the right to bear arms.

Liberals are always wanting to take away peoples rights (freedom of speech, politically correct speech, making guns illegal) these people are completely clueless on the concept of freedom and liberty.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Winston » October 5th, 2015, 10:58 am

You guys arent answering my questions. Why should i feel safe about every random person around me having guns?

Remember in old west movies when bar brawls turned into gunfights and someone got killed? Why do you support that? A fist fight should be just that, not turned into a gunfight.

Also how come theres gun control in China yet no government tyranny or mass killings by the army?
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Banano » October 5th, 2015, 12:31 pm

Dear Americans

You should be disarmed for your own safety and the only people who should be allowed to carry guys are cops, army and various law enforcement agencies.

I wouldn't feel safe knowing every random person around me is armed and we are talking about Americans, half of them are on some sort of antidepressant/anti psychotic medications, the other half is on illicit drugs and have issues with substance abuse.

Argument that you need guns for protection against your own government in Washington is laughable at best, only dumb american can say shit like that. The rest of the world finds it amusing.

You cant compare yourself to Switzerland which is cultured society with long tradition whereas US is multicultural jungle with more idiots per capita than any other place on earth.

1. Do you think your 9mm or 45 cal will protect you against US police and army?
2. How come these random shooters kill so many people before they get gunned down or they kill themselves, you never stopped anyone from mass killings even though you all have guns?
3. You government stopped serving your interests long time ago, it is a puppet government serving interests of international Jewry, corporations, elites, Saudis and everyone else whos got money to bribe or "lobby" and what what did you folks do about it? Not much, wank on porn, drink beer and talk shitta bout constitution and rights to bear arms on public forums.
You government will not gonna send cops to your house for no reason and even if they do your odds are crap. Since you are nothing more than slave and consumer you have nothing to fear.

You better off sell that arsenal and use money to travel to some poosy paradise

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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Ghost » October 5th, 2015, 2:37 pm

It was almost two years when about 2000 American patriots showed up - armed - to protect a rancher from government abuse. Do you think if they had showed up unarmed to protest that the government would have backed off? No, there would have been mass arrests with the citizens having no recourse. But they showed up armed - armed, resisting the aggression of a government that has missiles, nuclear weapons, biological weapons, tanks...and yet what happened? The government backed down. They could have destroyed this 2000 man citizen militia, but they didn't. Why? They were afraid.

In the Western tradition, free men owned weapons. Slaves were not allowed to own weapons. This is still the case today.

The U.S. government is trying to disarm the populace, at which point resistance will no longer be possible. They have been able to use psychological attacks, media manipulation, foisting feminism and consumerism on the population to numb them, dumb them down, and prepare them for slavery. The Right to Bear Arms is perhaps the last Right that haven't been able to take away yet. Make no mistake, when they are able to, that is the final nail in the coffin of liberty.

Those who want guns banned don't really want guns banned - they want the common men to be disarmed, not the government. They are - either intentionally or unintentionally - being hypocritical about violence. The state will always have guns and other weapons. There must be a balance. When you fight against the right of citizens to be armed, you are supporting the government having a monopoly on violence.

The goal of government is to increase government power. It isn't to protect anyone. If an armed thug breaks into your home and you call the police...well, there's an old saying about the usefulness of police: when seconds matter, they're only minutes away.

Likewise, when these mass shootings take place, they almost always happen in gun-free zones. That's no coincidence. No killer wants to shoot up a place where he'll meet resistance and probably end up dead before slaughtering a bunch of people. Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Adama » October 5th, 2015, 4:11 pm

Banano wrote:Dear Americans

You should be disarmed for your own safety and the only people who should be allowed to carry guys are cops, army and various law enforcement agencies.

I wouldn't feel safe knowing every random person around me is armed and we are talking about Americans, half of them are on some sort of antidepressant/anti psychotic medications, the other half is on illicit drugs and have issues with substance abuse.

Argument that you need guns for protection against your own government in Washington is laughable at best, only dumb american can say shit like that. The rest of the world finds it amusing.

You cant compare yourself to Switzerland which is cultured society with long tradition whereas US is multicultural jungle with more idiots per capita than any other place on earth.

1. Do you think your 9mm or 45 cal will protect you against US police and army?
2. How come these random shooters kill so many people before they get gunned down or they kill themselves, you never stopped anyone from mass killings even though you all have guns?
3. You government stopped serving your interests long time ago, it is a puppet government serving interests of international Jewry, corporations, elites, Saudis and everyone else whos got money to bribe or "lobby" and what what did you folks do about it? Not much, wank on p**n, drink beer and talk shitta bout constitution and rights to bear arms on public forums.
You government will not gonna send cops to your house for no reason and even if they do your odds are crap. Since you are nothing more than slave and consumer you have nothing to fear.

You better off sell that arsenal and use money to travel to some poosy paradise
I don't think Americans are the dummies here.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Adama » October 5th, 2015, 4:15 pm

Winston wrote:You guys arent answering my questions. Why should i feel safe about every random person around me having guns?

Remember in old west movies when bar brawls turned into gunfights and someone got killed? Why do you support that? A fist fight should be just that, not turned into a gunfight.

Also how come theres gun control in China yet no government tyranny or mass killings by the army?
That's because you are not paying attention. They have gun control in China and no one is dead because guns are still legal elsewhere in the world. The genocide can not start if half the world still has weapons. Those who have weapons will see that government is evil and therefore how necessary guns are. Is this so hard to comprehend? When gun rights in the USA are finished, that is when they can proceed with culling the herd of humanity. Until then they are working piecemeal to get things done. This is done so slowly that people do not notice.

Also, the majority of the mass shootings are fake. From Elliot Roger, to the Boston Bombing, to Virginia, to Sandy Hook. They are faked by the government to introduce legislation to take away rights on an incremental basis. It is a slow, steady march.

Now if you are not ready to accept that truth, then stop asking those questions.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Adama » October 5th, 2015, 4:19 pm

Winston wrote:

Remember in old west movies when bar brawls turned into gunfights and someone got killed? Why do you support that? A fist fight should be just that, not turned into a gunfight.
Because the movies are accurate portrayals of history. Just wow. My mind is blown here, Winston.
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by zboy1 » October 5th, 2015, 4:33 pm

Guns are needed in the States because the culture is violent, the people are mostly a**holes, and crime is very high. Also, it's a dysfunctional, multicultural mess-of-a-society, with a tyrannical, war-mongering government. So, it would make sense for innocent people to be armed. Now, in peaceful societies such as Japan, guns aren't really needed, so it depends on the situation and the country.

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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by OutWest » October 5th, 2015, 4:48 pm

Adama wrote:
Winston wrote:

Remember in old west movies when bar brawls turned into gunfights and someone got killed? Why do you support that? A fist fight should be just that, not turned into a gunfight.
Because the movies are accurate portrayals of history. Just wow. My mind is blown here, Winston.

You should not be surprised....
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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Jonny Law » October 6th, 2015, 4:47 pm

You try to go to someones home and try to take their guns by force.

Sounds like a great way to get killed.

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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by HouseMD » October 6th, 2015, 4:55 pm

On a long enough time scale, all governments will fall. When the government falls and either becomes a tyrannical/dictatorial one or dissolves altogether, those with guns are in the best position to defend themselves and fight back against those that would wrong them. And, let's be honest, the surplus of guns in the US makes a mainland invasion or occupation by foreign powers essentially impossible, which is a nice added bonus.

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Re: Whats wrong with Gun Control? Why do Americans hate it?

Post by Devil Dog » October 6th, 2015, 9:19 pm

Winston wrote:You guys arent answering my questions. Why should i feel safe about every random person around me having guns?
Here is the answer, Winston. I don't give a shit about whether you feel safe or not.

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