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Israel has no choice but to be cordial with Russia. Russia has shown they will not tolerate kosher shenanigans, like south ossetia Georgia and the Ukraine. Putin has also warned them hands of Iran. Jews don't control public opinion in Russia. Russia has real reserves, not debt to jew banks, so they can't manipulate that way either. The US presidency is for sale and the Fed is jew banksters. So the USA must pay shylock.


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gsjackson wrote: "Neocon" = Israel. We have to use so many euphemisms for Jews here in the U.S. -- neocons, neoliberals, international bankers, finance capitalism, cultural Marxists, feminists, LGBT spokespersons, pornographers, mainstream media, oligarchs, etc., etc. -- that it's refreshing to run into someone who will call a Jew a Jew. Funny how Israel retains cordial diplomatic relations with Russia, while its surrogates in the U.S. do everything possible to undermine the country.
Kradmelder wrote: Jews don't control public opinion in Russia.
That is truth, that jews don’t have any influence at public opinions and politics in Russia. But I wouldn’t exaggerate their role in the global political agenda. I agree, that they are directly or indirectly involved in the most affairs related with funds and money flows, but they don’t act like a single synchronized mechanism, which complies with the interests of Israel solely. They act on behalf of separate groups with different targets, and they don’t have any centralized management. Thus jews can’t be considered as global political super power.
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Kradmelder wrote:Israel has no choice but to be cordial with Russia. Russia has shown they will not tolerate kosher shenanigans, like south ossetia Georgia and the Ukraine. Putin has also warned them hands of Iran. Jews don't control public opinion in Russia. Russia has real reserves, not debt to jew banks, so they can't manipulate that way either. The US presidency is for sale and the Fed is jew banksters. So the USA must pay shylock.
If Russia has "real" reserves why does it need to sell off it's best military secrets and newest hardware? Why can't they build all the warships they said they were going to?
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Citizen wrote: If Russia has "real" reserves why does it need to sell off it's best military secrets and newest hardware? Why can't they build all the warships they said they were going to?
It’s not true. Never ever Russia sold newest arms to anybody. We sell previous generation weapons only, just like the same, as US does.
Regarding warships, I don’t know exactly what you mean, and what your allegations are based on, but if you mean a helicopter carriers, which were intended to be bought from France, it was more like act of mutual respect between Russia and France. Neither Russia, nor France were not too much interested in that deal, but so that to emphasize the level of their cooperation, they signed that contract. It was a political decision, but not some kind of necessity from either party.

If you hint at supremacy of the US army over Russian, nobody questions that. Chill out. :wink:
I mean conventional weapons..
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Russian reserves

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gold-reserves

Russia has real wealth, not debt to jewish banks like the USA. China also has wealth. If russia and china dumped dollars or gold they would collapse th west. But it would harm the value of their reserves. The USA should be concerned about the trillions it owes to jewish banks. Russian reserves grow as fast as the US debt. Obongo has made it even worse for the USA.
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Russian1860 wrote:
Citizen wrote: If Russia has "real" reserves why does it need to sell off it's best military secrets and newest hardware? Why can't they build all the warships they said they were going to?
It’s not true. Never ever Russia sold newest arms to anybody. We sell previous generation weapons only, just like the same, as US does.
Regarding warships, I don’t know exactly what you mean, and what your allegations are based on, but if you mean a helicopter carriers, which were intended to be bought from France, it was more like act of mutual respect between Russia and France. Neither Russia, nor France were not too much interested in that deal, but so that to emphasize the level of their cooperation, they signed that contract. It was a political decision, but not some kind of necessity from either party.

If you hint at supremacy of the US army over Russian, nobody questions that. Chill out. :wink:
I mean conventional weapons..
SU-35S is Russia’s supreme fighter jet isn’t it? It has already been sold to China. S-400 the best they have? Hasn’t it been sold to international buyers? Wasn't India’s Brahmos cruise missile developed jointly with Russia? Now India is building the Brahmos 3 for Russia. Russia uses Gepard class frigates and markets them. Russia uses project 11356 it is the same design as the Indian Talwar class. Russia’s new Sukhoi Superjet 100 needed parts made by US manufacturers hence Sukhoi had to have US approval to offer the jet to Iran. Iran has purchased Airbus for now. Russia had sanctions placed on it for invading the Ukraine so the Mistrals could not go to Russia.
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Citizen wrote: SU-35S is Russia’s supreme fighter jet isn’t it? It has already been sold to China. S-400 the best they have? Hasn’t it been sold to international buyers? Wasn't India’s Brahmos cruise missile developed jointly with Russia? Now India is building the Brahmos 3 for Russia. Russia uses Gepard class frigates and markets them. Russia uses project 11356 it is the same design as the Indian Talwar class. Russia’s new Sukhoi Superjet 100 needed parts made by US manufacturers hence Sukhoi had to have US approval to offer the jet to Iran. Iran has purchased Airbus for now. Russia had sanctions placed on it for invading the Ukraine so the Mistrals could not go to Russia.
I don't care about America. They like everybody else are on the Pequod.
SU35 is nothing more than a modern jet with competitive characteristics. It is not based on any kind of pioneer technologies and has been produced for 8 or 10 years already.
Starting from 2016, Russia’s warplane fleet has replenished with next generation T-50 jets, which were announced in 2011. So now we can trade with old planes. As soon as I know Russia signed a contract not only with China, but with Indonesia as well. I am not sure, whether they supplied planes already, or everything is still on the stage of build up.

Regarding S-400, it is exploited in Russia since 2007 (almost 10 years)
We want to supply some items to India and China in a couple of years. Now please google for S-500, which have been producing in Russia since this year. S-500 are newest generation missile system and it is not going to be trade with for the next 7-10 years

Brahmos 3 is something like Mistral project, which has nothing common with strategic weapons, and it is some kind of political act to emphasize the level of cooperation between two countries. Nothing more than that. Russia doesn’t need India or China to invent new weapons.

Regarding civil plane Sukhoi Superjet 100, indeed, it is build of many import parts, because it is commercial project. To be honest I don’t know the story about approval of US to supply the planes to Iran, so I won’t dispute on that. Maybe you are right.

You mentioned “invasion” to Ukraine, and that is a separate topic, which can be discussed endlessly. If you don’t have the insight of this story, it will be hard to dispute about that.
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Russian1860 wrote:
gsjackson wrote: "Neocon" = Israel. We have to use so many euphemisms for Jews here in the U.S. -- neocons, neoliberals, international bankers, finance capitalism, cultural Marxists, feminists, LGBT spokespersons, pornographers, mainstream media, oligarchs, etc., etc. -- that it's refreshing to run into someone who will call a Jew a Jew. Funny how Israel retains cordial diplomatic relations with Russia, while its surrogates in the U.S. do everything possible to undermine the country.
Kradmelder wrote: Jews don't control public opinion in Russia.
That is truth, that jews don’t have any influence at public opinions and politics in Russia. But I wouldn’t exaggerate their role in the global political agenda. I agree, that they are directly or indirectly involved in the most affairs related with funds and money flows, but they don’t act like a single synchronized mechanism, which complies with the interests of Israel solely. They act on behalf of separate groups with different targets, and they don’t have any centralized management. Thus jews can’t be considered as global political super power.
In my opinion this is incorrect, I believe you will find all the central banks running this credit system where they loan us a supply of #'s at interest controlling stocks are all owned by the same people world wide which is centralized power and consolidates more power as time goes on.

Yes Russia's central credit monopoly has foreign ownership and has since the revolution when it was established for the purpose of taking the country over.
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Moretorque wrote: In my opinion this is incorrect, I believe you will find all the central banks running this credit system where they loan us a supply of #'s at interest controlling stocks are all owned by the same people world wide which is centralized power and consolidates more power as time goes on.

Yes Russia's central credit monopoly has foreign ownership and has since the revolution when it was established for the purpose of taking the country over.
Maybe you are right, but it's quite hard to assess the real scope of their power, since international monetary system is very fragile. It is soap bubble.
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Russian1860 wrote:
Citizen wrote: SU-35S is Russia’s supreme fighter jet isn’t it? It has already been sold to China. S-400 the best they have? Hasn’t it been sold to international buyers? Wasn't India’s Brahmos cruise missile developed jointly with Russia? Now India is building the Brahmos 3 for Russia. Russia uses Gepard class frigates and markets them. Russia uses project 11356 it is the same design as the Indian Talwar class. Russia’s new Sukhoi Superjet 100 needed parts made by US manufacturers hence Sukhoi had to have US approval to offer the jet to Iran. Iran has purchased Airbus for now. Russia had sanctions placed on it for invading the Ukraine so the Mistrals could not go to Russia.
I don't care about America. They like everybody else are on the Pequod.
SU35 is nothing more than a modern jet with competitive characteristics. It is not based on any kind of pioneer technologies and has been produced for 8 or 10 years already.
Starting from 2016, Russia’s warplane fleet has replenished with next generation T-50 jets, which were announced in 2011. So now we can trade with old planes. As soon as I know Russia signed a contract not only with China, but with Indonesia as well. I am not sure, whether they supplied planes already, or everything is still on the stage of build up.

Regarding S-400, it is exploited in Russia since 2007 (almost 10 years)
We want to supply some items to India and China in a couple of years. Now please google for S-500, which have been producing in Russia since this year. S-500 are newest generation missile system and it is not going to be trade with for the next 7-10 years

Brahmos 3 is something like Mistral project, which has nothing common with strategic weapons, and it is some kind of political act to emphasize the level of cooperation between two countries. Nothing more than that. Russia doesn’t need India or China to invent new weapons.

Regarding civil plane Sukhoi Superjet 100, indeed, it is build of many import parts, because it is commercial project. To be honest I don’t know the story about approval of US to supply the planes to Iran, so I won’t dispute on that. Maybe you are right.

You mentioned “invasion” to Ukraine, and that is a separate topic, which can be discussed endlessly. If you don’t have the insight of this story, it will be hard to dispute about that.
The best that the Russian military has is what Russia is exporting. Pretty simple.
The T-50 (the PAK FA) that India paid to develop? Putin said he was going to build aircraft carriers but he hasn't. So now what are the Russians doing? Trying to get India to buy one first. LOL
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Citizen wrote:
Russian1860 wrote: SU35 is nothing more than a modern jet with competitive characteristics. It is not based on any kind of pioneer technologies and has been produced for 8 or 10 years already.
Starting from 2016, Russia’s warplane fleet has replenished with next generation T-50 jets, which were announced in 2011. So now we can trade with old planes. As soon as I know Russia signed a contract not only with China, but with Indonesia as well. I am not sure, whether they supplied planes already, or everything is still on the stage of build up.

Regarding S-400, it is exploited in Russia since 2007 (almost 10 years)
We want to supply some items to India and China in a couple of years. Now please google for S-500, which have been producing in Russia since this year. S-500 are newest generation missile system and it is not going to be trade with for the next 7-10 years

Brahmos 3 is something like Mistral project, which has nothing common with strategic weapons, and it is some kind of political act to emphasize the level of cooperation between two countries. Nothing more than that. Russia doesn’t need India or China to invent new weapons.

Regarding civil plane Sukhoi Superjet 100, indeed, it is build of many import parts, because it is commercial project. To be honest I don’t know the story about approval of US to supply the planes to Iran, so I won’t dispute on that. Maybe you are right.

You mentioned “invasion” to Ukraine, and that is a separate topic, which can be discussed endlessly. If you don’t have the insight of this story, it will be hard to dispute about that.
The best that the Russian military has is what Russia is exporting. Pretty simple.
The T-50 (the PAK FA) that India paid to develop? Putin said he was going to build aircraft carriers but he hasn't. So now what are the Russians doing? Trying to get India to buy one first. LOL
Seems, you are a kind of man, who enjoys the sound of his voice. Your comment is noted, thank you for your input.
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