What percent of American women are marriage material?

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Re: What percent of American women are marriage material?

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MattHanson1990 wrote:
February 16th, 2018, 7:34 pm
fschmidt wrote:
August 13th, 2017, 3:08 pm
What percent of American women are marriage material? What percent of American women are traditional Anabaptists, Orthodox Jews, or devout Muslims? That answers the question.
Virtually zero percent of AW are marriage material, and in fact it's getting worse.
Funny that you mention 0%, because I came across a very telling statistic in a recent edition of Time Out (London), which is a listings magazine for the UK's capital: apparently, just 2% of Londoners believe that you should wait until marriage before having sex.

Additionally:

1. The average Londoner will wait just 2.4 dates before having sex;

2. For men the average is 1.8 dates; and

3. For women, the figure is 2.7 dates.

Btw, London is far more religious and traditional than the UK as a whole because the city contains significant numbers of Catholics, Muslims, Hindus and Orthodox Jews; if you look at figures, for example, concerning church attendance, London is well above the UK average.

Whether you are socially conservative, liberal or a mix of the two, I can't see how these statistics are good news if you believe in marriage, or even stable relationships. It must be chaos out there.

That said, there is one caveat to the disturbing numbers: Time Out is famously (some would say notoriously) libertine (some would say degenerate). It would be interesting to see just how representative their survey sample is. But even if the figures are out by a quite a bit, this is a seriously perplexing situation.


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Misko_Varesanovic wrote:
February 19th, 2018, 10:33 am
Funny that you mention 0%, because I came across a very telling statistic in a recent edition of Time Out (London), which is a listings magazine for the UK's capital: apparently, just 2% of Londoners believe that you should wait until marriage before having sex.

Additionally:

1. The average Londoner will wait just 2.4 dates before having sex;

2. For men the average is 1.8 dates; and

3. For women, the figure is 2.7 dates.

Btw, London is far more religious and traditional than the UK as a whole because the city contains significant numbers of Catholics, Muslims, Hindus and Orthodox Jews; if you look at figures, for example, concerning church attendance, London is well above the UK average.

Whether you are socially conservative, liberal or a mix of the two, I can't see how these statistics are good news if you believe in marriage, or even stable relationships. It must be chaos out there.

That said, there is one caveat to the disturbing numbers: Time Out is famously (some would say notoriously) libertine (some would say degenerate). It would be interesting to see just how representative their survey sample is. But even if the figures are out by a quite a bit, this is a seriously perplexing situation.
Interesting facts, but they don't correlate with my experience of London. Yes there are conservative Muslims, mostly adults in their late 50s who grew in countries different from the UK (the Middle East, Africa, etc.) and still hold those traditional values dear. The new generation of Muslims, i.e. those people's children and grandchildren, are far from traditional. Yes, they will tend to be less libertine and promiscuous when it comes to relationships and sex, yet saying they will not have had at least one former partner before marriage, is a bit of a stretch.

In my 18+ years in the UK, the majority of which in and around London, I have never met anyone under age 40 who was fiercely conservative. It is true that the better examples of debauchery are usually found in the more working class/post-industrial centres up North: Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow, etc. It is also true that, as it is by now ingrained in modern British society, sex is no more than a recreational activity that can be enjoyed in pairs and even in groups. Not surprisingly: in a society where divorce is seen "as the dual of marriage", an act as natural and obvious as marriage itself, the value of loyalty and restraint cannot be held that high in the first place.

Swingers sites and forums catering to all types of conceivable fetishes and perversions abound and, judging from what I heard and saw, have never been more thriving. Yes, the longa manus of law sometimes peeks into the privacy of a couple or community and throws in an "exemplary" judgment or two, but these are very isolated cases and often only limited to the more violent and uncceptable forms of perversion, like cruelty and obviously child abuse/pedopornography.

Funny you mention Time Out...it's been traditional a flag carrier for the LGBT scene since the 80s, with its coverage of venues, events and locations. This does not mean it is a vector for deviance: it's merely there to cater for those who embrace it.
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Isn't it interesting though, that in this age of feminism, that all these other perversions are exalted and are now commonplace? Feminism was just the first step. Then open homosexuality and the rest. First they had to break down the family by "liberating women" (to commit evil against their own families). After the family was broken, then the rest could be promoted as valid alternatives to the point where, if you were to tell people this is not normal or right, they would call you an ignorant person.

In the states here, they were so certain that they wanted to end the man's role in the family, that in order for women to receive welfare, state officials would go around to their housing to inspect to see if men were hiding or living with the women and children. They were that sure that men must be extracted out of the family.

Now everyone blames men for dropping the ball. But it really was the state that did it to the people, and society quickly just followed along without thinking.

People don't know though, that high school and extended adolescence was just a ploy to lure people into fornication during those years where they should have gotten married. College also is a place where fornication and liberation takes place, and is also designed to delay the age of marriage further. Female careers also are meant to keep women from marrying and becoming wives and to disrupt the power balance in the family to make women think they should be leaders of it because they contribute money. The list of the things they've done to displace the man's role and to diminish the man's authority and rights goes on and on. Few men can find a pure woman because of all this female empowerment that really just destroys women's worth.

The adversary of life has deceived everyone into thinking this is the way things are supposed to be, but it isn't. These are things that destroy life, it is just this knowledge has gotten lost through the ages.
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publicduende wrote:
February 17th, 2018, 11:28 pm
There are dozens of very simple, high-school level experiments that can be done, some with a simple camera and a balloon, that prove that the Earth is not flat. And that is before all the evidence coming from commercial flights which one can experience in first person.
This is correct.
You don't even need a balloon and a camera to see that the earth is not flat.
What you need is some knowledge of mathematics ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Biruni
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy

Al-Biruni knew this already more than 1000 years ago and calculated the size of the earth, almost identical with nowadays data.
Biruni acknowledged that he could neither prove nor disprove it, but commented favourably on the idea that the Earth rotates.
His estimate of 6,339.6 km for the Earth radius was only 17.15 km less than the modern value of 6,356.7523142 km
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gsjackson wrote:
February 18th, 2018, 5:43 am
No, no balloon and camera have ever captured earth curvature.
The earth curvature can easily captured and proven while on a ship - or watching the sea while on a beach.
You can see the curvature of the earth easily. A large ship on the horizon moving toward the viewer will gradually appear with the masts first, followed by its structure, then hull.
When I fly across the arid country of the American southwest I can see for about 100 miles in each direction. No curvature.
About airplanes, to see the horizon as an arc and not as a straight line you need to be higher than 50,000 feet above ground.
Commercial airplanes are flying not high enough.
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