Epidemic of Male virgins in America

[Ghost]

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[droid]

It's so sickening now'days there are even ads on p**n websites stating, "fat or ugly women need sex, so click here" idiotic crap like that.. They realize how sexually oppressed guys are that they will make these scamming ads to try and get guys money. We MGTOW's have woken up and don't fall for that crap anymore, but the majority of men unfortunately still buy into these scams.

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Excellent observations.

[Forerunner]

I didn't succeed until I went abroad. That showed that the problem wasn't me (the individual) - it was that I lived in a rotten society.

But you did not actually succeed, did you? You went to the Philippines all excited and you found a girl you thought would be good to you, be it ended up being one big disappointment and her family screwed you over and stole from you. To say that you 'succeeded' in the Philippines seems a gross overstatement, as you got taken advantage of and as a result became very bitter about the country as a whole.

You did not find a decent woman in America (hardly a surprise reading all the rants here) but then again, you also didn't find a decent woman abroad either. What you got was sex, but with it came an empty wallet and crushed dreams. You went from one rotten society to, in your words, another. Hardly a success.

I still lost my virginity in Asia. And f***ed a few girls. My ex-gf did deceive me and her family robbed from me, but at least I learned from it. And I was able to get women over there, so, yes, it was a success.

Hey Ghost what parts of Asia did you go to, I really want to take a trip to N.E. Asia specifically China, where would you recommend me going. People are always advocating the Phil's on here and many Filipinas are nice to me I have talked to many of them before. But what i really dislike about some of these women is they are very materialistic and on top of that they idolize this toxic culture in the West

I've been to China, Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, and Malaysia. There's no way to recommend where to go. It depends on what you want. If you go to Asia, you'll will have to demonstrate yourself to be a good guy in order to find a good woman. And even then it may not work. Materialism and careerism are rampant in East Asian countries. Don't monger good girls. (Not that it will likely work. A lot of guys go to places like Philippines and think they are mongering normal girls. And then they are actually mongering sluts and hookers that give free service to foreigners off the clock.) I now view the Philippines as hopelessly third world, corrupt, and promiscuous. China is not a promiscuous society. But it is more materialistic and careerist than the Phils.

thanks for the sound advice but I am not looking for a one night stand or quickie looking to find a nice girl to hang out go out on some dates get to know, start a relationship with, have some fun in their country. A lot of guys on here complain about women being sluts but they are no better for example Will N. Dowd etc

[Paloaltoguy]

Bullshit. Modern cultures hates the decent among us. Good men are doomed within it. And many try - I know I did - to break out of incel hell. And then? They are met only with endless rejection. Most of these who end up on the internet talking about? They were the ones who tried and tried and couldn't ever get out of incel hell. There are exceptions, of course. But for most, you've mixed up cause and effect. For the majority, having the spirit broken by constant rejection precedes "whining on the internet."

I've seen too many average looking and not-so-wealthy guys with girlfriends and wives for me to believe in this at all. If you cannot have SEX in the West it means you simply lack action & social skills. You may very well be unable to find a good woman here, I agree. Stability, a good marriage, I wouldn't count on it unless you really "have it all". For these things you have to leave the West, but if you cannot even get laid at all you must be pretty bottom-of-the-barrel and overestimate your own looks and the the times you tried. A lot of the whiners on the internet make a lot more of their "attempts" and their own awesomeness then it really is.

I see you've never heard of the 80/20 rule. A slut culture does not make it easier to get laid for most men - it makes it much more difficult. Particularly in one such as the U.S. where the government/corporate complex promotes and subsidizes women's horrible mating decisions. AWs are very picky because they are coddled endlessly. Most men get left out.

Oh I've heard of it alright. I just think it's bullshit. Among that 80% that you claim, there are plenty of guys with the looks and charisma to get laid. For virgin failures to theorize "80% of man are in my boat" is simply a coping mechanism... wishful thinking at it's finest. They don't want to admit that the group of male adult virgins is a small and embittered minority consisting of (primarily) f**k-ups, invisible in real life and vocal online. Most of them are probably your typical "nerd" types, or suffer some for of autism or social anxiety or what-have-you. Anyone in the West who does not look like Gollum with the social skills of a wet towel can and will get laid sooner or later. Although I will admit that for those who look better, it will be easier and more frequent of course.

No man should adapt to evil. You wouldn't say a man in Nazi Germany should have adapted or given in. Don't say he should adapt to feminism, asshole.

There's too many 'friendzoned' p***y-whipped cowards and spineless weaklings in the West refusing to improve themselves, who never enlighten or empower themselves. They cry about not getting laid but do nothing to combat their situation. Some go abroad and become mongers, trying to make up for lost time and "feel like a God" only to get screwed over and become disillusioned, returning to the West broken. Others come to the only sane conclusion there is: the West is a whore, and the East a wife.

Though there are certainly some - and even here on HA unfortunately - who could get out but don't. That's your sole good point in your otherwise crummy post.

Because they are stuck in a poisonous mindset of blaming others and using shitty, unscientific online theories based on anecdotal evidence to explain their chronic lack of p***y. And it's always, ALWAYS, outside factors that are to blame and never their own stupidity or social awkwardness which they do little to rid themselves of. They go around in circles and if they do not break out of their f***ed up mindset and adopt a healthier attitude, they will fail just as much abroad as they did at home.

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[Ghost]

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[PandaMan]

This is a really great thread with a lot of insight.

Here's an anecdote you'll appreciate:

Was at the store, and the cashier lady mention I "must" have a girlfriend. I said no. Then she chimed in, "Oh, my son complains there are not 'good' girls around here." There aren't. Then she deadpanned, "Maybe he isn't good enough." (What a mom! She's a bitch, actually, people think that about her). Anyway. The guy next to me nodded in agreement.

Getting a girlfriend isn't easy around here (central Arizona). Girls are aloof, walk fast, don't look at you, not friendly. So that's a blast.

The guys that "get" the girls? Loud-mouths, druggies, morons.

I honestly don't know how anyone is even getting married anymore, because the women refuse to date any decent guy who would even think of marriage. Most are single moms, so there you go.

[gibraltar]

Yep. There is a huge epidemic of lonely men in the United States. The Pornography sites prove a lot and here's why.

I work in online marketing and buy web advertising to drive traffic and get leads. From my experience, those sites like Xvideos, Xhamster, Pornhub, and all the others get A LOT of traffic.

Probably tens of millions of visitors per day at least. Those banner ads are costing the advertisers a small fortune. Think about how many impressions they get.

They are advertising fat and ugly women because all the decent looking ones are already taken. All that is left are complete dregs and these advertisers know it.

The truth sad part is the ad buyers are earning a BIG profit due to the hoards of desperate men out there. Without legalized prostitution, American men really have no options other than single mothers and obese women.

For example, I visited Thailand and Brazil, two places well known for prostitution. I met at least a dozen men that had wives at home but also met up with prostitutes on a regular basis.

It doesn't carry a stigma overseas because men are too busy enjoying their lives and taking care of their families.

Foreign men have lots of options - simply they do not exist for the average American man.

That's why there is a virgin epidemic. Prostitution could get you throw in prison and the hotties already have lots of options.

My Solution:

I'm going to work overseas. Life is too short to play games in an unfavorable dating and social market. The United States just doesn't offer you the fun and options foreign countries do.

Lots of foreign companies will pay you a nice salary, provide free housing, transportation, and other amentities. All you have to do is get a degree or some sort of certification.

We need more threads on how to get work overseas because everyone doesn't want to start their own business.

[gibraltar]

Also, I want to share with you some insight from people who have been locked away in prison for a long time.

I was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor but ended up spending a month locked up in jail and then a mental hospital.

I spoke with many down to earth people who just made bad choices in life, but I definitely found a common thread among many people locked away in jail.

A large majority of them got involved with an American woman who called the police on them.

I met guys that were:

- Attacked by American women with knives
- Had their "other boyfriend" try to beat them up
- Called the police on them only to have the cop double back to "have sex with her"
- Pretend to need money for rent only to find out she was also screwing the owner of the apartment building as well as the guy she scammed

There's a lot more stories. Most of them involve terrible women.

So what do you expect in jail? Many of these men were taxicab drivers, busboys, government employees, doctors, etc.

They are normal people yet all had back luck with american women.

My Point

My point is that America is TOXIC. It's simply a toxic prison for men. The 1% make all the money while the rest pay taxes, get harassed by police, and have to settle for mostly unattractive women.

Going overseas is more about ESCAPING TOXICITY than it is about getting women.

Look. Any idiot can get an American woman. If you just want sex, then enjoy your 15 minutes with any local American woman. And then what?

When I date overseas, I can go shopping, out to eat, to the mall, to the museum, or anywhere with my foreign ladies. It's a pleasure to live FREE in a non-toxic country.

I'm saying this to let everyone know that there is a whole other world out there. Stop worrying about trashy American women. They have been ruined by culture and greed. Just let them go. You are one of MILLIONS of men who have been screwed over by them. They stick the knife in our backs all the time. That's the norm.

I didn't expect this to go so long but I am only speaking the truth. If you choose to remain in the United States, then you deserve what you get and only have noone to blame but yourself.

[Taco]

This guy lost his virginity to a stuffed animal and then got arrested for it.

Florida Teen Arrested For Sex With Toy Horse In Walmart
http://www.break.com/article/florida-te ... ma-2777925

[drronnie]

Problem is that is is becoming a world wide problem and not only in Western countries thanks to Hollywood propaganda and social media. Women are become more and more selfish and narcissistic like their Western counterparts

[Wolfeye]

Gibraltar: That's all a concern. There's the potential of being locked up for hitting her when you didn't hit, too. What did you mean about the cop doubling back to "have sex with her"? I'm confused by the quotes.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

Gibraltar: That's all a concern. There's the potential of being locked up for hitting her when you didn't hit, too. What did you mean about the cop doubling back to "have sex with her"? I'm confused by the quotes.

Wow. Are you that wet behind the ears? The cops lock up men based on the cop getting "just enough "evidence" (e.g. made a decision that would be legitimate enough to lock the man up) (i.e. first half of the double)" so they can have sex with their woman (i.e. second half). Double means two; "back" part means they go back to screw their girl after the man is locked up. Omega boys kill the noise. Repeat. Lock. Load.

[OutWest]

i go to a very small baptist church here in Edmond, OK and until i lost my virginity about a year 1/2 ago i had no idea how many guys were virgins in my church (and of course, not by choice) i was one of about six guys who were virgins (one got married) but there are still four guys who are virgins there (two of them are over 30) .....thats about 70% percent of the unmarried guys there who are virgins (yeah everyone else is either a kid and we have a bunch of married men there).....playboy did an article in 2011 that showed 40% of men and women in america are still virgins between the ages of 18-24.....that shows that men are now sex starved in america and finding it almost impossible to get a girlfriend

The epidemic is one of millions of pathetic little whiny he-bitches. Men are no longer men, they are "guys",
or little "manlets". Churches of course have become little more than enforcers for the pu$$y cartel.
It's really messed up and indicative of a culture in terminal decline.

[Jester]

i go to a very small baptist church here in Edmond, OK and until i lost my virginity about a year 1/2 ago i had no idea how many guys were virgins in my church (and of course, not by choice) i was one of about six guys who were virgins (one got married) but there are still four guys who are virgins there (two of them are over 30) .....thats about 70% percent of the unmarried guys there who are virgins (yeah everyone else is either a kid and we have a bunch of married men there).....playboy did an article in 2011 that showed 40% of men and women in america are still virgins between the ages of 18-24.....that shows that men are now sex starved in america and finding it almost impossible to get a girlfriend

The epidemic is one of millions of pathetic little whiny he-bitches. Men are no longer men, they are "guys",
or little "manlets". Churches of course have become little more than enforcers for the pu$$y cartel.
It's really messed up and indicative of a culture in terminal decline.

Very true.

[publicduende]

The epidemic is one of millions of pathetic little whiny he-bitches. Men are no longer men, they are "guys",
or little "manlets". Churches of course have become little more than enforcers for the pu$$y cartel.
It's really messed up and indicative of a culture in terminal decline.

I wouldn't put the terminal decline of society, or at least of healthy balance between sexes, down to men's pussification, but to women's progressively gaining with more opportunity and power, let alone the smorgasbord of political and social backing. Mostly at the men's expenses.

Ironic how some of the social models where the skew is heaviest towards men, like Latin America, the Philippines, China etc. still sport numerous female power brokers at every echelon of politics, industry, and obviously media. Ok, Cristina Kirchner and Gloria Macapagal both came from presidential families, but what about Dilma Rousseff (Brasil) and Michelle Bachelet (Chile)?

The reality is, it's not all black and white and, at least outside the festering Anglosphere, there is a third way where women can feel like having real opportunities without having to espouse some extreme barking fringe of feminism, or lose their femininity at all.