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Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Any Experiences? (Scam, Exposed, Reviews, Uncensored Open Discussion)

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Re: Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by watts » September 1st, 2019, 11:24 am

ErnieMagic wrote:
May 5th, 2019, 3:42 am
Shemp wrote:
May 4th, 2019, 11:57 am
Everyone scoffs when I tell them my approach, for older men living part or full time in Ukraine. Namely, hire a series of escorts for test drives. When you find one that clicks with you, start seeing her on a regular basis. Eventually, a true relationship develops. You still have to pay her, but so what? As I noted in a previous post, you have to pay almost any young woman if you want her to maintain her femininity.

(Older women who were housewives and then got rich by divorce or widowhood are another story. These can remain feminine without you paying them. Some beautiful widows like that in Ukraine in their early 40's. These were trophy wives who married rich man 20 years older when they were 19 or 20 years old, and then the man died when he turned 60 and the woman was 40. Men often die young in Ukraine.)

One of the advantages of escorts of that the relationship doesn't have a complete power imbalance. So many men think, I'll "save" one of these poor Ukrainian women who only make $300/month. That is a very unpleasant attitude from the woman's perspective, even submissive women, and very tempting for the man in this position to lord it over the woman. (Think of our own ContrarianExpat and that girl who is so grateful to him, or so he says.) Whereas escorts are toughened up psychologically and used to men trying to manipulate them with money, and they'll shoot the man down fast if he gets too big for his britches. This is good because it forces the man to behave himself and treat the woman with respect from the start, until true respect develops naturally as part of a real relationship. Meanwhile, the woman retains her power, since she has a book of other clients initially, and so doesnt feel manipulated by the man giving her money. Later, once there is a true relationship, the woman can give up her other clients if she and the man want monogamy. Lots of escorts plan on this career path. That is, make a nest egg while young, then marry or have an LTR with a favorite client.

This approach is, like I said, mainly for older men like me living part of full time in Ukraine (or SE Asia or Latin America). Nothing wrong with turning whores into hosewives if you do it right. Main thing is don't bring them back to the USA as wives where you risk divorce rape. Treat them like half wild animals and leave them in their natural environment. I personally have no plans to marry my mistress. Being able to leave at any time, and seeing her only part of the year, keeps us both on our best behavior, so the relationship remains in honeymoon mode forever. Needless to say, I'm taking here about high class escorts who are selective about their clients and always use condoms, not the low class drug users in brothels who take anyone who has money in his pocket.
I picked up immediately that Shemp was very wise to the game and is offering very sound advice to many newbies and those considering a romance tour who are reading this thread. I will keep the subject matter on the thread discussion topic of DC. Just to throw out a question. We all know Ukranian women are the masters of manipulation when it comes to men. Do you think MD has become a mere puppet in his own company? He seems lost to what is going on with the women side of the business. Is MD is being left in the dark? The women only need MD to launch his marketing skills to get men to Ukraine. After that, he's nothing more than Colonel Sanders walking around the KFC shaking hands in his costume of fancy clothes and jewelry. Now, MD is even covering himself in tattoo's like some gangster Ukrainian hooligan. Does he think he is Ukraine mob?

His manager is doing the work of getting women to the socials and was a former employee of one of the Big Local Dating Agencies in Nikolaev. I am sure she has been around the block and knows the money game. Once the suggestion began swirling of some DC women being paid by the local agencies, MD quickly posted up a video of his Manager saying "no women were being obtained from local agencies". The Manager has been set up on video. If anything goes off the tracks, MD and AD are released from any liability as the "manager" will be the fall character. MD is a genius to cover his ass and these Ukrainians underestimate him. Several former tour clients and those dating some of the women in the local area have reports of the Manager offering payment for social attendance and to go on dates with certain clients so they have the impression their DC experience was worth the money. He's even getting them to fill out "company reviews" at the time they think these women are into them so they rave about the DC experience. Once the train comes off the tracks when they return to their homeland, some of these men are realizing they were duped and begin to complain. It's not an issue until it ends up on the internet where it's being exposed. MD then whips out the review when they said it was a total great experience using it against them. Notice the pattern and it's happened in many cases. These guy's are being set up from start to finish in a paper and video trail. Brilliant mind this MD! Some go away silently with the legal threats. He's a diabotical genuis! Even goes so far as being suspected here posting under alias names as the manipulation has no end!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ooh yes Mark the little nobodyand cult leader got some childish jewelry and a tattoo. he probably watch some video about cult leaders and thought he needed to step up his game. The guy is a true loser. Clearly all is not good in the dream cult. The group of men going are getting smaller. colombia was a complete failure and thailand not much better. When I saw AD Igot shocked hot FAT she got. Seems like all weight MD lost AD gained. Must been comfort eating a lot. The perfect couple with the perfect marriage are clearly not that "perfect" anymore. The charade will soon end. They had to cancel a tour to ukraine for the very first time. In a city of half a million people they cant even find 3 good looking women to attend the socials. You would have to put in some effort to pick out 100 ladies in Nikolaev and find so many ugly desperate women. At least AFA have hot scammers so if you are going to get scammed on a tour at least go for the hot scammer :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of course they have always got women from local PAY PER LETTER agencies and still do. Slavi-girl have always been a main supplier to DC. Since pretty much all women not old or really ugly come from agencies you might pick them up at the original source much cheaper than a DC tour.




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Re: Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by watts » September 1st, 2019, 12:00 pm

ErnieMagic wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 11:50 pm
MarcosZeitola wrote:
May 6th, 2019, 4:18 pm
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May 6th, 2019, 3:59 pm
Better than paying Mark Davis or the other agencies for no sex.
We're rarely in agreement, Retiredfrank, but you do get way more bang for your buck than any of Mark Davis' customers, I'll give you that.
Shemp brings an interesting game to the table. You have to admit he's tapping it often and for the cost of 3 or 4 dates just to get the b***y it seems reasonable on cost..
Yea 1 date with greazy Joes latest con at matchguaranty is 500 bucks :lol: :lol: :lol: No sex for sure!!!
4 hours of "rented" sex and friendship 160 bucks. Sounds like a bargin when you put it like that.

It is all about what the goal is for each man. BUT the fact is most guys going on tours are not alpha males but weaklings and weirdos.
They are starved for sex and love. So they pay 10k for a tour with all cost included and get no love or sex. All they get is a FAKE girlfriend desperate for money who will milk him for a few months after he returns home. MD often compare going ona tour with buying a car saying "a wife will last forever and a car will just get old" the fact is spending 10k on an old car means after 3 months you still have the car. Going on a tour and all most men have after 3 months is a 8-12k hole in their bank account.


You all know that Mark loves to interview the most "successful" men during or just after the tours. the ones who found hte "magic one and only" you can almost hear wedding bells ringing blah blah blah. Well how often do you hear about Mr successful again after that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHkXzrHDmM

So here you have what in con man Marks mind counts as a huge success. Would you be shocked to hear that a few months later she was already back in the DC cesspool and going to socials again?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is how it goes for most men who are "successful" they get milked for as long as they can put up with it then it if game over. The women goes back in the cesspool on the next tour and start it all over again. A normal serious woman would not be in a "relation" one week and back on dating socials the next. Like any normal human who was in a LEGIT relationship it would take time to get overa LEGIT relationship and be ready to date again. But not in this industry cause most relationships are less serious than a middle school relationship.

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Re: Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by watts » September 1st, 2019, 12:12 pm

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May 17th, 2019, 5:04 pm
Noona the Ukrainian girl from the video below that got the guy to offer to take her to Italy is apparently still single....maybe the Italy trip did not happen.

So get in touch with her https://www.loveme.com/women/info175376.htm

I would suggest that after you meet her and woo her with your most debonair style that on your last day you invite her to your hotel room...at a different nicer hotel than the standard tour hotel....and surprise her by telling her that you will stay a few more days so that she can organize her affairs to take a trip with you and showing her the fully refundable first class tickets to someplace exotic that you got for you both as a gift...and that the next day after you two sweatily celebrate your travel plans in missionary, doggie, and all the positions that you can twist your body into during the night..that you leave town on your originally scheduled flight and cancel those refundable first class tickets.


Or if you are interested in https://www.loveme.com/women/info180816.htm

you could just hire at her place of employment https://msk4.prostitutki.today/prostitutka/91916/

The funny (weird) thing is that a lot of men actually think women looking like that whore Mariya are good normal women and try to find women looking like that to marry. A lot of idiots go to Odessa using instagram to find "good women" and actually believe it.
It does not help that utube is full of losers partying with under cover whores and sluts and then put it off like it is normal attraction and partying. Any man calling Odessa the best city in the world should be laughed out of town. A lot of guys arejust as shallow and dumb as the brain dead barbies they hunt for but dont want to admit it. So they pretend like they are seriously searching for a good wife and happy life. In reality they are just losers who cant even attract sluts back home so they have to go abroad to do it.

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Re: Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by watts » September 1st, 2019, 3:29 pm

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June 30th, 2019, 5:53 pm
New comment on my blog about DC:

http://blog.happierabroad.com/2017/08/d ... l#comments
WARNING: The woman 41 seconds in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_beLFFGytc "Anna" Anya Bulat, was engaged to me 6 weeks ago and we lived together for 5 weeks! I was on the Dream Connections tour in Nov 2018 and she had multiple men on social media and in real life, she was seeing on the side secretly. Guys on the tour: she is very dangerous, a narcissist, and will use you for every dime you have and then toss you aside. I told Mark and DC about this, but I had already paid my $5,000 so they really didn't care. Watch out for her.
Not only did the "champion of men" and "man card academy guru" not stand up for me as the man, he believed every word and lie she said. Once your $5,000 is paid, they really don't care about you. He is also using his "Quest Mastermind" as a funnell to bring more guys into the Dream Connections fold, even if they are married at the time. He told me I was ready emotionally ready for the tour, 3 weeks after my divorce. I clearly wasn't ready, but he was my Quest Mastermind mentor and "man's coach", so I believed him. I was nearly destroyed by a professional scammer and narcissist. Not only did Dream Connections and Mark not take her profile down to protect other guys as I asked multiple times, but they featured her on their new video for the next tour! Feeling very used and scammed.
Oh, and maybe 1 out of 20 guys is getting married from the tour.. That's a 5% success rate, not 80% as they claim...., unless you count getting scammed and used by professional daters, a "meaningful relationship". Guys, as a military veteran and a man, I can tell you: avoid the personality cult of Mark Edward Davis, and Dream Connections. There are much safer and more cost-effective options out there.

Perfect example of what I said in another post. These SCAMMERS will jump right back in to the DC cesspool the minute they "break up" their fake relationships. If you think a girl bringing you to see her family or even get engaged is a sign that shes serious you are wrong. That was true 20 years ago but not today. They know even if they get engaged shes got close to a year to milk the guy and break it off before she have to move to America. That is plenty of time to milk the guy for thousands in cash plus gifts and maybe a vacation abroad. Not bad for a no class 3rd world girl local men of even medium value would never touch.

The DC translator that had a fake relationship with a dc client was posting pictures openly of her with her local age appropriate and good looking man while being spoiled by a dc client at the same time. Clearly they not even care if they get found out cause they had no real feelings anyway. So dump the old western guy and move on to the next victim. DC have been told/warned about many ladies by clients yet still invite them to the next social. Only the drug dealer girl iss gone for good but thabks to going to prison not thanks to dc. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by Shemp » September 2nd, 2019, 4:22 pm

I was going to post this at Ukraine Fusion but then I got banned plus I didn't feel much enthusiasm for writing when the only readers were going to be the idiots who hang out at that forum. Since this thread is picking up life again, I'll post here.

I already explained what old retired men like me who want sex with young Ukrainian hotties should do: move to Ukraine full or part-time and then test drive escorts to find a mistress (or continue to use escorts if you want a harem or succession of one night stands). If you don't care about age and want true love, then you can skip the paying part, though you'll probably need Russian in that case. There is no shortage of young men in Ukraine, but there is a shortage of older men. So if women 40 and above is your target, you should have little difficulty finding a match.

For younger men who want a family, meaning wife and children, what I suggest is the following. Between now and the time you turn 40, save money, learn Russian (and/or Ukrainian) and develop a career such that you can live at least 6 months per year in Ukraine. For example, software developers can often work remotely. Highly skilled workers, whether white-collar or blue-collar, can often get contracts where they work X weeks/months without break, then have the same amount of time off, on-off rotation. Some people have internet businesses that can be run remotely. Some people do seasonal work, such as running a ski resort in the winter, or hunting guide on the autumn. Etc.

Anyway, once you get a flexible career like this (or you save enough to retire very young, or you get retirement after 20 years in the military), get a work visa for Ukraine via the method I described in another thread here. Namely, start your own company, then sponsor yourself as an employee of that company. Once you do that, get a job teaching English for the months you can be in Ukraine. No need for the school to get you a work visa since you already have one. Instead, your company contracts to provide labor services (you) to the school. This makes it much easier for the school to hire you and lessens your dependence on the school. You might want to arrange with 5 schools, one for each day of the work week. Be flexible on pay, because your goal is not to make money (that's what your flexible career and savings are for), but rather to meet young women.

Pick schools that have plenty of women age 26-30. This is the age at which women in Ukraine start to panic that they won't find a quality husband with whom to have children. Quality husband mean a man they find physically attractive, not more that 15 years older, with enough money to support a family. There is no shortage of men in Ukraine who meet the first two criteria (attractive and not too old), but there is a shortage of attractive young men with enough money to support a family. English teacher is not a highly paid career, which is why you need that flexible career discussed above, plus considerable savings, enough to buy an apartment at least. 15 years should be considered an upper limit for age difference. If you can arrange to make the move to Ukraine before you reach age 40, so much the better. (In the USA, panic sets in starting age 33 or so, women are stricter about age differences, plus divorce rape is a big danger. These are the 3 big reasons for moving to Ukraine for men who want families.)

I never married or had children and never wanted either, so I'm hardly an expert at finding suitable wives age 26-30 at English schools in Ukraine. However, from my own experience at my social activities in Kyiv, as a man in his 50's who could easily pass for 10 years younger, one big problem will be that instead of allowing you to take your time choosing a wife, aggressive women will push themselves on you and so you end up with someone you don't really want. In my case, I wasn't even looking for a wife, so I was able to get rid of these women easily, especially after I figured out that paid escorts are a much better fit for me. Whereas if I had been wife hunting, all these aggressive young women interested in me would have been a mess, since I'm not used to conditions of abundance where women are concerned and don't know how to deal with it. Anyway, I strongly suggest going very slow and postponing sex as long as possible. Having coffee or walks in the park with multiple students simultaneously is not going to create a big scandal, whereas having sex with multiple students simultaneously will. The scandal issue is less with the school than with quality young women. If quality women detect any signs you are not serious about monogamy, they will never have anything to do with you. Be careful of your reputation.

In addition to helping you to find a wife, teaching English at least a few days per week is a good way to keep busy after married, assuming your flexible career is not something that can be done in Ukraine. For example, the X weeks/months on-off rotation type of flexible career would leave you idle during off time on Ukraine. Being an idle husband will cause you to lose respect from your wife. Also, at the back of her mind, she will remember where she met you (at the school) and thus will be aware that you continue to be exposed to other young women if you continue to teach. This awareness will keep her on her toes.

Bringing Ukrainian women to the USA should be ruled out from the start. You MUST figure out how to relocate yourself to Ukraine at least 6 months per year, and marry and raise your family there.

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Post by RTF0928 » September 4th, 2019, 5:45 pm


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
They had to cancel a tour to ukraine for the very first time.
What tour did they cancel, Watts?

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Post by ErnieMagic » September 12th, 2019, 9:23 pm

Rumor was AFA had a sell out over 50 men for Nikolaev/Odessa, so they couldn't get any girls to show up. AFA booked all the local agency women. DC cancelled..

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Post by Winston » October 11th, 2019, 2:27 am

After the forum crash, vegas is good came back in here and said "i just finished a little project". What did he mean by that? Was he insinuating that he was responsible for the forum crash? That he paid the chinese hackers to do the DDOS attack that was reported by our webhost? If so did he do it on behalf of mark davis? Did mark use him to do his dirty work as proxy so he wouldnt have to get his hands dirty?

That is how powerful people usually do things isnt it? They do bad things by proxy by contracting middle men so they dont get their hands dirty right? For example, the CIA contracted the mafia to shoot JFK. But the mafia didn't want to do it directly and potentially have it traced to them, so they contracted foreign shooters, such as french hitmen, who have no patriotism toward America and can leave after the job is done. Etc.

Anyway, mark seems like a nice guy. Is he capable of such a thing as contracting hackers? Why would he do that? Just to get rid of this thread? It sounds like a vain attempt. Doesn't he know that forums have backups that can be restored? So what would he accomplish by it? Just a psychological thrill?

Plus wouldn't mark know that such things can backfire? If his clients or potential clients read this forum and find out that he hacked it with a DDOS attack, then wouldn't they be disgusted and decide not to join him? Also it would create bad karma too that would nip him in the butt. So why wouldn't he consider such consequences?
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Post by TruthSeeker » October 11th, 2019, 10:51 am

Maybe VIG is taking credit for something he didn't do. Only the forum went down. Other parts of the site did not including your article on DC.

It's a big world out there and there are plenty of hackers. It could be some random hackers seeking vulnerabilities in your site. Then again the forum database could have gotten corrupt on it's own. As someone said you don't just set it and forget it. You have to maintain it.

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Post by Winston » October 11th, 2019, 11:27 am

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October 11th, 2019, 10:51 am
Maybe VIG is taking credit for something he didn't do. Only the forum went down. Other parts of the site did not including your article on DC.

It's a big world out there and there are plenty of hackers. It could be some random hackers seeking vulnerabilities in your site. Then again the forum database could have gotten corrupt on it's own. As someone said you don't just set it and forget it. You have to maintain it.
Why would VIG want to take credit for a crime he didnt commit? Unless hes psycho.

Actually the forum and my server went down at the same time. Some DDOS attack from China caused it it seems. Did u read the report by bluehost about that? Once i got my server back up the forum crash lost all the post data. Thats what happened. So the attack took down both the server and forum.
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Post by Shemp » October 11th, 2019, 1:31 pm

Winston wrote:
October 11th, 2019, 11:27 am
Why would VIG want to take credit for a crime he didnt commit? Unless hes psycho.
It's only a crime if you can prove he did it and you can't. He just hinted that it was him. Mark Davis has long been angry at you for this thread because it hurts his business and he would like an opportunity to get back at you, so he might have decided take credit for the crash to make himself look more powerful. Who knows? We don't even know if Vegas is Good is Mark Davis or works for him or why VIG posts in this thread.

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Post by ErnieMagic » October 13th, 2019, 9:04 am

I personally know 10 men who commented they read this thread and dropped DC and went with AFA, or go at it alone using dating sites, went with Match Guaranty, or not go at all. If I personally know 10 men, there must be 10 times that number that considered DC but read this thread and went a different direction. It's easily upward of 250,000 to 500,000 in sales. MD is fuming over this thread and has silenced most of those who have expressed dissatisfaction. This is well documented from comments by individuals on this site. Wu's site is the only true open forum on DC that individual comment's have not been blocked or banned if they told their story of dissatisfaction of the DC service. This thread has been commented to reference on YouTube and many other sites. Just what I know alone, I'm surprised Wu has not been offered a payoff of at least 50,000. Clearly, that's the tip of the iceberg of sales being lost. Wu seems like a character who could easily be bought off so I'm surprised this thread is still up. AFA is certainly reaping the award of it still being here as 6 of the 10 I know went with AFA after reading this thread. This is just what I know. There must be 10 times that number.

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Post by TruthSeeker » October 13th, 2019, 10:16 am

ErnieMagic wrote:
October 13th, 2019, 9:04 am
I personally know 10 men who commented they read this thread and dropped DC and went with AFA, or go at it alone using dating sites, went with Match Guaranty, or not go at all. If I personally know 10 men, there must be 10 times that number that considered DC but read this thread and went a different direction. It's easily upward of 250,000 to 500,000 in sales. MD is fuming over this thread and has silenced most of those who have expressed dissatisfaction. This is well documented from comments by individuals on this site. Wu's site is the only true open forum on DC that individual comment's have not been blocked or banned if they told their story of dissatisfaction of the DC service. This thread has been commented to reference on YouTube and many other sites. Just what I know alone, I'm surprised Wu has not been offered a payoff of at least 50,000. Clearly, that's the tip of the iceberg of sales being lost. Wu seems like a character who could easily be bought off so I'm surprised this thread is still up. AFA is certainly reaping the award of it still being here as 6 of the 10 I know went with AFA after reading this thread. This is just what I know. There must be 10 times that number.
Well if that's true then Wu is sending sales AFA's way then he should be compensated. Though I understand Wu has chosen to receive a flat monthly advertising rate from John Adams rather than a commission on tour sales which may not be the wisest way to go.

If MD did hire hackers to take the site and forum down (which I doubt) then they did an ineffective job because the site and forum are now back up and Wu is implementing automatic backups so if it happens again, it will be back more quickly. MD could say to the hackers you didn't do the job I paid you to do and could demand they reimplement their attacks. I doubt that MD would hire Chinese hackers. He'd be more likely to hire Ukrainian hackers who could make it look like the attack came from China.

My 2¢.

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Post by Winston » October 13th, 2019, 10:17 am

Erniemagic,
Lol what makes you think i am the kind of person thats easily bought off? When did i ever give that indication? Im not even materialistic man. Lol

However i must admit that 50,000 usd would be tempting for anyone, even if they arent greedy or materialistic. Thats a huge amount.

How do you know so many bride seekers btw?

If MD is fuming over this thread then it could be that he ordered the DDOS attack out of desperation or as an experiment to see what would happen. In his view its better than doing nothing.

Either way if what you say is true, then its good to know that we've made a difference out there and helped other men. So our efforts here are not in vain. And best of all, we used our constitutional rights of the first amendment to do it. :)
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Post by Winston » October 13th, 2019, 10:42 am

In any crime investigation the first logical question to ask is:

"Who benefits?"

The next logical question is:

"Who had the means, the motives and the opportunity to carry out the crime?"

Even sherlock holmes starts with those questions.
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