Well, since you only have one brain cell all these big words are too much for a retarded, queer, piece of trash like you. Never had a woman who loved you in your life? It's so obvious to us why that is - so go hang yourself as you'll never go abroad and find love. You'll be used and you're too dumb to know it.frontier wrote:polya wrote:Whatever you do, DO NOT marry a Russian bride and bring her back to your country. Only live in Russia with her (and you'll NEVER get permission to live in Moscow no matter how much money you have - you'll have to buy train tickets out of Moscow every 3 months to show Russian Police your not living in Moscow - like Russians do who aren't registered in Moscow). -Obviuosly passport-diggers will not marry you and you'll probaby get a nice family-centred woman. If you can't live in Russia forget about a Russian Wife for good!
1. From Winston's thread: 2003 US VISA STATS - less than 8% of spouses are still in the US after 1 year!!
1546 K-3 (spouse) entered the USA
70.3% left the USA within 6 months
22.6% left between 6 months to one year
7.1 % lasted more than one year
3889 K-1's (fiancÃ©e) entered the USA
54.0% left the USA within 6 months
28.2% left between 6 months to one year
17.7% lasted more than one year
2. Russian "Bridezillas:"
From 60 Minutes (Australia) http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/arti ... n-roulette - See how Australian husbands are imprisoned or restrained from living in THEIR HOUSES after their Russian wives make allegations to local Police. Learn how these woman know what allegations to make from the Australian Embassy in Moscow!!! The women gets automatic residency in Australia. Ain't love grand!
http://www.aussielegal.com.au/forum/for ... D~4954.htm Read how a man's new bride makes fun of him to her Russian friends in front of him!! She's drained his bank accounts and driven him crazy (a common thing Russian women do so the husband will divorce her & she play's the victim).
http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-91.htm - stories by men in Arizona not all are victims of Russian brides - but some are - you can find the Russian mail-order bride story on here if you look.
I've concluded that Russia keeps women in their place - Russian Police don't listen to stories about petty domestic violence, like US Police do. Jobs that pay well for Russian women are almost non-existant, so marriage is their only option. The divorce rate is very high in Russia - Winston said its 65% (viewtopic.php?t=7551) as marriage is seen as a way to "get what you want" by most Russians - not a lifetime commitment. When you take a Russian woman to your country, she is NOW the Queen and after years of seething rage against her father & Govt she will take it out on you & feel no pity.
Of course, you can point out an example of a Russian wife who is still with her foreign man, but it doesn't mean your going to have the same luck - one person wins lotto each week, it doesn't mean you will.
You must be the offspring of a whore. THose stats are flawed since it does not county ACTUAL MARRIAGE. It only counts cohabitation which means nothing you faggot. ANd Australian and most other Anglo men are faggot men that don't know how to be manly. Russian along with all other Eastern European women want men that act like men and use force when they get out of hand. Also, there possibilty that he was a lazy fat slims. Women from that region do not like lazy a** men. Officialy the divorce rate is 20 percent when American men marry Russian women. That is less compared to the 50 percent when an American man marries an American women. You are just a homosexual shit.
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Discussion for marriage-minded members seeking foreign brides for marriage and serious long-term relationships.
"Woman is a violent and uncontrolled animal... If you allow them to achieve complete equality with men, do you think they will be easier to live with? Not at all. Once they have achieved equality, they will be your masters." Cato the Elder
All of the above are some extreme cases.
Explanation for why you tend to get a low quality marriage material is rather simple.
How often do people meet their future spouses in US? Once or twice in a lifetime. It's pretty much the same in Russia.
What makes you think that coming to Russia for 2 weeks will get you a mother of your future kids? It's an unreasonable expectation and the problems will surface soon after.
99% of the time marrying a R/U woman and bringing her back to your country is a suicide mission. Very few of the marriages work out or you are going to be a victim of marriage sham. That's why a lot of guys just date them for fun in their country or even move to their country.
An American friend of mine married a Russian woman. When she arrived to the States she quickly dumped him. He's now living and working in Russia. His dating life couldn't be better.
I'm not into Russian women nor white / black / anything other than Asian. When I first joined HA I was still considering finding a non-Western European / Anglo white woman as a wife, but now I realize that there are too many incompatibilities. Assuming that a portion of white women date Asian males, I'm not exactly the kind of counter-stereotypical Asian male that could be attractive to white females. I'm still very much a geek / nerd and overall non-Westernized. There is an Asian guy that I know, who like me, has spent approximately the same amount of time in China and in the West, but even in Beijing he lived a much more international lifestyle, mingling with westernized Asians and non-Asians. He's a lot more extroverted than I am, one of those popular kids with a commanding social presence. He told me he's into white chicks. His previous girlfriend was a Hong Kong girl with a British background that went to the same international school, now he's dating a Swedish chick. He met her on an exchange program in the UK, and now she's going over to America to be with him and attend the same university. My time in Beijing was spent amongst the locals. Outside of school I only interacted with mainland Chinese. I had the fortune to realize how kind and down-to-earth REAL Chinese are compared to their counterparts abroad.
As for Russian women and non-Asian women in general, they don't age well. Russians may be attractive when they are younger but once they hit 30 or 35 they go rapidly downhill and become fat.
Do mail order bride really exist?
The answer is Yes, and No, it really depends on your definition of mail order brides.
The historical roots of the mail-order bride industry that emerged in the 1800s in the American frontier: European American men found financial success in the migration West, but the one thing that was missing was the company of a wife. Very few women lived there at this time, so it was hard for these men to settle down and start a family. They attempted to attract women living back East; the men wrote letters to churches and published personal advertisements in magazines and newspapers. In return, the women would write to the men and send them photographs of themselves. Courtship was conducted by letter, until a woman agreed to marry a man she had never met. Many women wanted to escape their present way of living, gain financial security and see what life on the frontier could offer them. Most of these women were single, but some were widows, divorcees or runaways.
During most of the 20 century, the mail order bride continued with the main method of women putting themselves in catalogs. Then men would view the women's profile, then for a fee order the women address. These became the main order bride companies business method in the 20 the century, with the fall of the Soviet union and cheap airfares, these companies spread from Asian to Eastern Europe, mainly now the Ukraine
Today most women do not leave their countries to escape poverty but to seek a man they believe will be a good husband and provider, that is family orientated and that looks at women with more respect than in many countries around the world.
With the advent of the intent, the mail order bride industry boomed into a billion dollar industry, Now with a few pictures and website, anyone could be in the mail order bride business. With hundreds of ma and pop shops opening over the last two decade, Most who were clients of one of the three original mail order bride companies, A Foreign Affair (AFA), Anastasia and EC, The owner of ForeignLadies.com met his wife while working on a tour from loveme.com, A Foreign affair still today in the largest in the industry, each week they offer tours to one of a dozen countries China to Peru and everywhere in between. The industry grew so fast in 1998, Senator Cantwell of Washington state introduces legislation to regulate the mail order bride industry. and a new law Called: "International Marriage Brokers Act" or IMBRA was born. With stiff regulations, many companies like Anastasia moved from Bride business to Fantasy Chat.
Although the industry strongly objects to the term mail order brides, saying there is no difference if man in New York courting a woman from California through match.com, then courting a woman from Russia. Critics like the Terra Justice Center has a different out look, saying these men take advantage of women oversea. But studies have contradicted these statement and show abuse is actually lower in these marriages. See "International Marriages - A Report to Congress"
So why do thousands of women join these site: Elena Kosalova of the Ukraine says, "Men here are not serious about family, they expect women to stay home while they go out each night with their friends and drink. I want a man who s serious, mature and who wants to be with his wife and family. I have met Americans in the past and they seem more reliable and mature." Elena rejects the idea she is a "Mail Order Bride"
Why do men seek a mail order bride: James Goodwin, 43 of South Carolina says, " I meet women here all the time, but I just can not find the values I am looking for.. I have dated here for more than 20 years, After three days in Kiev, I was shock at how many beautiful women I met that I would consider marrying, now I am just trying to reduce my options and pick the right one. It truly is the fastest way to find a beautiful sincere women.
So what is the cost, the cost can range greatly from site to site and from type of service, AFA or loveme.com offers everything from letter writing, tours and executive services for the rich and famous. As little as $12 to as much as $25,000. The owner John Adams say's the best way is just go over and meet then women, avoid letters and never waste money on expensive chat. You can meet up to 1000 beautiful women in just 10 days, it will be the greatest vacation of your life. Joe Nail of ForeignLadies.com, has stayed with the traditional Letter Writing, Each letter is $7.50 and but say they do plan on offer some limited chat option.
Many sites like,foreignwomen.com, PhilippineSinges.com, and UkraineSsingles.com, that offer simple unlimited membership for $29 per month. These type of site also target pacific regions, like Asia, Latin America or Eastern Europe.
There is also a site for mail order grooms; SingleMenOnline.com, that caters to men publishing their photos in hopes to meet an American Bride.
James Dunn, who is a ghost writer for review sites says "You get what you pay for. Membership sites to do not screen the members at all. so you never know who you really are writing, The big boys require the women to apply in person in one of their local offices. The companies that offer group tours will introduce you to hundreds of beautiful women, for the cost of $1000 to $3000 depending on location, about the same you would pay for any vacation. Several companies also do individual tours these can range from $750 to $1500, But only arrange one to one introductions, Always make sure they are biased in the USA or EU, Most of the complaints come from small agencies that are desperate and need to make as much as they can from you. Just a note, if the company is based in an a foreign country you will have no recourse if they do not follow through.
So do mail order brides exist, If you belive a if a woman is a mail order bride if she lives in another county then Yes, But if you believe it just another dating option like any on-line dating site, matchmaker or dating service, than No. . It really seems like a doubled standard in the world, If a women meets a man in Italy or France, then oh that is so romantic, but if a man meets a women in Philippines, than ....