Contrarian Expatriate wrote:MrMan wrote:ContrarianExpat.
Paul said to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife and every woman have her own husband. He advised celibacy for those who could take it. Not being a MGTOW who has sex with a 'fresh supply' of girlfriends. Jesus spoke about fornication as a sinful thing, and the church is the bride of Christ. The Bible also says, "Marriage is holy in all, and the bed undefiled." It does not call marriage ungodly.
You obviously don't even know your own Bible! You might want to brush up on Corinthians because Paul outright advises MEN TO NOT MARRY. Read it, weep, and file for your divorce immediately!
The problem with a lot of your posts is, you are ignorant on a topic and you pretend you are an expert. You have done that with your bogus armchair psychoanalysis, and now you are doing it with the Bible. It is not my fault if you either don't bother to read a book through, and then pretend to be an expert on it, or if you can't understand what you read. I wrote a paraphrase of Paul's words in my post to you.
I Corinthians 7
2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 6 But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment. 7 For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that.
(NKJV)
Notice verse 2, where he recommends marriage to prevent sexual immorality. Having a 'fresh supply' of different women isn't an option. It's not good and ethical, either. That's the way you fill a society up with kids who were not raised by their fathers and do not know who their daddies are. Do you think it is good for a child to grow up not knowing who is daddy is?
This is where Paul introduces the idea that he would like it if men, and women, were celibate like himself. He acknowledges celibacy and both as gifts from God.
8 But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
(NKJV)
When I was a young man, I considered this. A life with no sex did not seem like a viable option for me. Neither did a life without a close relationship with a woman. I wasn't cut out for life-long celibacy, so I chose to marry.
And this is what Paul said about your wicked suggestion that I divorce my wife.
10 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. 11 But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
If you don't know what you are posting about, you can always choose not to post, or just ask questions.
Stop it with the weak-kneed justifications already because it is becoming increasingly clear that you hate being married but you can't bring yourself to admit it for reasons of religion, fear of your wife, and/or lack of self-awareness.
More bull crap psychoanalysis for you. Maybe this is supposed to be mind-reading. Take my advice and don't put on a show at Vegas trying to read people's minds. You aren't good at it.
I posted some reasons to reason with someone from a hedonistic egoist perspective, since that is the perspective you seem to take. MGTOW seems to appeal to people who are into egoism. I even saw there was a MGTOW video in favor of Ayn Rand's philosophy. That was of thinking is bad for everyone else. You may want to do what is good for you, but that is certainly not going to make you a good person for everyone else.
Taking advantage of teenage girls and sleeping with them is not a good thing. Doing the same with women in their 30's who've had sexual experience isn't a good thing, either. Women are human beings. The deeper benefits of marriage are not just egoistic and hedonistic, like cooking and cleaning and frequent sex, but having read some of your posts, that seems to be the sorts of things you are focused on. Your arguments against marriage are at that level. There are benefits to having a loving relationship with another human being. Believe it or not, women are human beings. They aren't just shells there for sexual or emotional gratification.
Your self-imposed sexual starvation, and yes you ARE sexually starved if the only woman with whom you've had sex is your wife,
You'd asked me if I'd rather sleep with one woman than multiple women. Sleeping around is against my conscience and beliefs, so I definitely would choose one woman in marriage. Of course, I understand the appeal of lusting after multiple women. I'd imagine some men find that fun. I'd imagine meth users really enjoy the dopamine rush they get from taking the drug, but it's bad to do that. Just from a hedonistic perspective, if I were concerned only with sex and not morals, I'd rather have lots of sex with one beautiful woman than go around trying to game a new woman every night. Just in terms of pleasure, it is better to have sex reliably have sex four nights a week, or seven, or three, or whatever number it is for a given married couple, than to go out to a bar, try to pull some girl. That's a lot of trouble and wasted hours. How many hours of game would a man have to put in to get sex with five different girls a week as opposed to five times with the same wife--unless he hires a prostitute? Is he really going to pull 9s every night? Is it really all that titilating to have sex with lots of 4s or 6s on his personal rating scale rather than one woman he's chosen whose looks appeal to him.
If you sleep around and she drank some, she could accuse you of rape. She could have a disease. She could get pregnant and kill your baby. You don't know this girl. She could have your baby and not tell you, or have your baby and you have to pay child support. Your also likely sleeping with a girl whose had other men dump their biological material in the same oriface you are using. It could have been a few hours before for all you know. Yuck. And if she insists you use a common, as far as sensation goes, that's like having 10% of sex. I don't use those things.
There are now married people who consent to their spouses having extra-marital sex because that is natural.
It's a good thing for women that may be interested in you that you haven't married them if that's how you think. You may be cool with sleeping with women who have been with other men or who are with other men between their encounters with you, if you think that is natural.
Any man who needs a wife, to among other things, arrange his social calendar (ie. drag him around like a dominated poodle) is no real man, but a mere male like in the depiction below:
Stop encouraging young men to ruin their lives and manhood with marriage. Just stop it!
Stop encouraging wickedness. Stop ignorantly spouting off about things you know nothing about.
If you like that picture, it sounds like you've been brainwashed by the feminists into thinking men need to do their own cooking and cleaning. They've done a number on society, you included.
Btw, didn't you say something about hiring a maid in the past to do your cleaning? Does that make you a big baby?