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Is Dream Connections by Mark Davis worth the high price? Any experiences? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by LFL » June 21st, 2018, 12:07 am

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June 20th, 2018, 2:56 pm
And that's complete bullshit as well.
A welcomed change in perspective. I hope you understand better now that (at least some of us) aren't just bashing DC without basis, but we're tired of seeing people manipulated when they are most vulnerable, over and over again.




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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by Adama » June 21st, 2018, 2:35 am

Don't be deceived. Polyandry will destroy the soul of anyone who engages in it. Avoid it if you want to hang on to your soul. It is up there with homosexuality.
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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by retiredfrank » June 21st, 2018, 6:01 am

Adama wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 2:35 am
Don't be deceived. Polyandry will destroy the soul of anyone who engages in it. Avoid it if you want to hang on to your soul. It is up there with homosexuality.
Most men engage in serial polyandry, whether they realize it or not. It's not your girl, as the saying goes, it's just your turn.

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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by Winston » June 21st, 2018, 6:06 am

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June 20th, 2018, 11:52 am
Ah, finally an intelligent question, which I will rephrase: How to find a quality mistress? Unfortunately, the answer is you have to grind through a while bunch of bad apples to find the good ones. As of right now, the consensus is use Mamba.ru with the VIP option ($12 for 3 months) to search for girls looking for a sponsor. The closer the girl is to being in your "league", the more likely you'll get a true girlfriend experience. Because you are offering money rather than just your penis and companionship, you have something valuable that she can't get easily from local men. And indeed, paying a mistress is old-fashioned and in accordance with family values, especially if she is a single mother. You have to be in Ukraine to make this work and you can't marry, because you need the implied threat of leaving, and thus cutting off the money supply, if she cuts of the sex supply.

The guys in this thread are pathetic fools, "blue pill" guys, who are despised my women in their own country and despised by Ukrainian women as well. They understand nothing of women motivations. Occasionally, a guy will luck out with a wife from Ukraine but guys also occasionally luck out with wives in the USA, Britain, NZ, etc. But occasional luck is not a sound basis for making decisions. The upside to bringing a wife from Ukraine is small, since eventually most husbands get bored with their wives. The downside is horrific. By contrast, there is little downside to a man who moves to Ukraine to marry and raise a family, which is why I keep recommending that, for those men who do want a family. I am aware this is a marriage thread and I only discuss my situation ( girlfriend type sex with a paid mistress) in order to shed some light on the situation.

I believe that you, Winston, are past the point of wanting more children, but that you still want a pretty young slavic girlfriend. And you can get that if you put in the work and are willing to spend some money. Less money than you would spend in Thailand or Philippines for a similar young woman, depending on how much work you do. The main thing is not to expect fast results. Like I said, lots of bad apples for every good one. Your problems in the past in FSU were because you acted like a simp, NOT because you are not tall enough or have an Asian face. Shorter asian guys are not the favorite of tall slavic girls, but money is a great equalizer. Plus people are complex. Some slavic girls actually have a fetish for asian guys, you never know. My girlfriend's sisters are both 170cm (5'7") blond asia-philes. One wants to move to Japan and is learning Japanese, one wants to move to Korea and is learning Korean. If you don't mind sharing a mistress, so that she can have a tall local guy in addition to you, that greatly improves your odds of success. Sharing is the rule with mistresses, of course, unless you pay very well.
Yes you do have a point. Even when you have a wife, you have to pay for it too. So you gotta pay one way or another. But a wife offers a stable relationship and many men want to settle down because they value stability and a family life and home. You gotta consider that too. Not everyone loves freedom as much as you do. Some want to be attached and settle down.

Do you mean all mistresses and freelancers have boyfriends or husbands? If they did, wouldn't their guy not want their girl to be "doing business" with you? Wouldn't they disallow it? I can't imagine a guy would be ok with his girlfriend or partner having sex with another guy for money, even if he was getting a cut of her profits.

Btw, I had such a relationship that you're talking about for a while, when I was in Yoshkar-Ola, Russia. She was hot and exotic too. See her pics here.

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=22422

What do you think? Not bad huh? She was very GFE too, and had a fetish for Asian guys I think. Look how we made love passionately in these pics.

viewtopic.php?p=305036#p305036

That's not easy to get. I was lucky to find her. I wish I had stayed longer.
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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by Winston » June 21st, 2018, 6:10 am

rrastdb wrote:
June 20th, 2018, 11:06 pm
Hey everyone, just wanted to update everyone. Spoke this afternoon to the guy who was out here last weekend with us. Going on 4 days now and no response from Dream Connections. Dream Connections received the email as he received the email confirming that they received his email and would respond. He is back at work (he's in law enforcement) and has taken a deeper look into the whole Dream Connections tour. He has found some really sketchy stuff going on in regards to the Colombia program. I am trying to convince him to post his findings here but again he is going to give them a few more days to respond. If not, he is going to post his findings. You wont believe the deal with some of these ladies. I will leave it to him to post his findings. Believe me, it will really have your head spinning.
Yeah tell him to post here. Would be interesting. Maybe he can email DC and tell them that he works in law enforcement. That may incite them to reply because they would fear an investigation by law enforcement? Has he investigated the DC tour in Ukraine and Thailand too? Who are you by the way?
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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by TruthSeeker » June 21st, 2018, 11:13 am

Strykr wrote:
June 18th, 2018, 11:19 am
Here's my experience through Dream connections if anybody is interested. It just my experience. And of course, there are guys that do have success, the same with AFA. This is just my thoughts and hopefully, it can help some guys decide if DC is the right company to use. If you like the video please subscribe.



I do have one for AFA also.
An interesting comment under Strykr's video:
Pale Horse23 hours ago (edited)

You sir just told the story of a hundred silent epitaphs of departed dreams and have thereby violated the 11th commandment - "Thou shalt not sayeth anything bad about Dream Connections." Rest in peace brother and may God have mercy on your soul.

18:24 says it all.

I had exactly the same experience and was completely underwhelmed. It was all downhill for me after the first night in Odessa at the steak house when we all went out to eat and Mark Davis announced "we're splitting the bill." I thought that was unusual but how much could it really be considering we're in Ukraine and ended up spending around 1,500 hryvnya ($60 US). That's what I would expect to spend at the priciest restaurant in my city here in the states. What happened to the exchange rate and my money going so much further in Ukraine? Even my laundry, that I would leave with the hotel concierge, cost around $10 per small load and smelled and felt like it was washed in the river.

I didn't feel like a priority... I felt like a target. After the first meet-and-greet, back in the room at the hotel, I remember sitting on the bed, wondering to myself "what am I doing here?" I was in a dark... dark place and there was no one to help stop me from the downward spiral. My heart was closed and if I could have left the country that moment, I would have boarded a plane and flown back to America... after 2 days.

Thank you for taking the time to post this video. Your review should be a part of Dream Connections' training package.

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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by rrastdb » June 21st, 2018, 4:31 pm

Hello Winston. I met this guy who was interested in a Colombia Tour out west last weekend as we were attending the wedding of a mutual friend. He showed me the girls picture after he thought he recognized the girl with a guy that I met briefly years back. She is on the website as he showed me her profile. The two were definitely an item. He then showed me a video from youtube and the girl is an employee of the company who is in this particular video. She is definitely with the guy. To boot here age is wrong. No emails back so I think he is going to email them again tomorrow and depending on what they say he will be posting here. It is not an official investigation it is something he is doing on his own. These law enforcement guys have their way of getting info and he has already dug up info of at least 5 other girls who are involved with someone and remain on the website. He told me all these girls who are dating someone including the one we saw out west are around the same age which he said. So he is sure someone in Medellin went on a recruiting spree. He knows exactly who went on the recruiting spree but I will leave it up to him to post here when he is ready. He is only looking into the Colombia part of the company.
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June 21st, 2018, 6:10 am
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June 20th, 2018, 11:06 pm
Hey everyone, just wanted to update everyone. Spoke this afternoon to the guy who was out here last weekend with us. Going on 4 days now and no response from Dream Connections. Dream Connections received the email as he received the email confirming that they received his email and would respond. He is back at work (he's in law enforcement) and has taken a deeper look into the whole Dream Connections tour. He has found some really sketchy stuff going on in regards to the Colombia program. I am trying to convince him to post his findings here but again he is going to give them a few more days to respond. If not, he is going to post his findings. You wont believe the deal with some of these ladies. I will leave it to him to post his findings. Believe me, it will really have your head spinning.
Yeah tell him to post here. Would be interesting. Maybe he can email DC and tell them that he works in law enforcement. That may incite them to reply because they would fear an investigation by law enforcement? Has he investigated the DC tour in Ukraine and Thailand too? Who are you by the way?

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Post by SteveUKR » June 21st, 2018, 6:28 pm

Even my laundry, that I would leave with the hotel concierge, cost around $10 per small load and smelled and felt like it was washed in the river.
I don't think I would hand off my laundry to a low grade hotel or any hotel for that matter. In Nikolaev you can get a day rent apartment for < $20 per day which includes a washing machine and everything else then do your washing yourself or rent a hostel bed but don't stay there and do your laundry there.

Once I approached a hostel and asked them if I could just do my laundry there. They said yes and it was only $2.

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Post by snede » June 21st, 2018, 6:42 pm

SteveUKR wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 6:28 pm
Even my laundry, that I would leave with the hotel concierge, cost around $10 per small load and smelled and felt like it was washed in the river.
I don't think I would hand off my laundry to a low grade hotel or any hotel for that matter. In Nikolaev you can get a day rent apartment for < $20 per day which includes a washing machine and everything else then do your washing yourself or rent a hostel bed but don't stay there and do your laundry there.

Once I approached a hostel and asked them if I could just do my laundry there. They said yes and it was only $2.
I had good results both times I let the hotel do my laundry, but it was kind of expensive. Any idea why Ukraine doesn't believe in Laundromats/Washaterias?

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Post by SteveUKR » June 21st, 2018, 6:48 pm

They'd rather wash by hand than pay a laundromat. Almost no one has dryers and I think that's better. The newer washing machines have an awesome spin cycle and stuff comes out almost dry. Then they just hang their clothes to dry on either a drying rack or clothes line. I think if I was to return to North America I would follow this approach.

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Post by Winston » June 21st, 2018, 10:45 pm

@retiredfrank check out this post where I explain why one cannot be happy banging hoes for the rest of their life. What do you think?

viewtopic.php?p=309826#p309826

The thing is, if you believe that you DESERVE to be LOVED, then you won't be happy with just banging hoes right?

Besides, do you remember what young love was like? Like when you go out with a girl from high school or college, and it felt special, like a big deal? If you really liked her, it made you feel vulnerable, but at the same time you felt ALIVE as well. If it went well, you were in euphoria and on cloud 9, but if not then you felt like shit, like the whole world came crashing down. Remember how that felt? It made you feel very ALIVE, the hurt, the pain, the euphoria, the glory, the triumph, the tragedy, etc. Remember?

How can banging a whore who just wants your money and doesn't love you, compare with that? Did you think about that?

In the original Star Trek episode "Requiem For Methuselah", after Captain Kirk loses his soulmate who made him feel ALIVE, McCoy tells Spock that he feels more sorry for him than for Kirk, because Spock will never understand love and the ecstasies and miseries it brings. See that clip here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nLuokOL_2E

https://www.tor.com/2011/02/10/star-tre ... ethuselah/
“You wouldn’t understand that, would you, Spock? You see, I feel sorrier for you than I do for him because you’ll never know the things that love can drive a man to. The ecstasies, the miseries… the broken rules, the desperate chances… the glorious failures, the glorious victories. All of these things you’ll never know, simply because the word ‘love’ isn’t written into your book.”

Also earlier in that episode, the ageless man Flint, who had lived for thousands of years, tells his android female that "loneliness is like a flower dying in the desert". Have you ever experienced that kind of loneliness? If so, then how can you think that that kind of loneliness can be fulfilled by banging whores who just want your money and not you? Can you explain please?
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Post by retiredfrank » June 22nd, 2018, 8:14 am

First of all, I don't feel lonely ever, with or without escort girls in my life. I don't even care that much about real sex versus masturbation. But for whatever reason, I feel more complete having sex with a young woman a couple times a week during my three months in Ukraine. So that's why I do it. I don't expect the average men reading this thread to live like me, but I already explained many times what the average man should do: wait until he can early retire (study Russian while waiting), then move to Ukraine and marry and raise a family here.

Second, well I suppose I vaguely remember young love, age 16 or so, just like I vaguely remember being excited at going to first day of school when I was 6 years old. So what? I'm not 6 or 16 years old and whether or not those were happy years, I'm not interested in acting like a child when I'm near 60 years old. There are things I experience now that I was incapable of experiencing when I was 6 or 16. All things considered, I would say right now are the best years of my life. Having the ability to summon forth beautiful girls to do my sexual bidding in exchange due a small fraction of my discretionary income is a huge improvement over my life at age 50, which I remember much more clearly than age 6 or 16. I don't really care if the girl loves me, as long as she finds me sexually attractive enough to give good service, which she does.

I specifically stated above that you need to get an escort girl in your league to get good service. I'm top 1% in terms of body for men my age, top 10% for men of any age, which is why I can get a top quality young woman to find me sexually attractive enough to give good service, whether or not she loves me. I suggest you read my advice in the pot belly thread, because nothing ruins a man's attractiveness worse than being fat. And then do some morning calisthenics to build muscles, especially your forearms. And dress better. And stop acting like a simp. Few men are attracted to fat girls who dress poorly and have a bad haircut and act like giggling fools. So why should high quality women be attracted to junky looking and acting men?

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Post by Cornfed » June 22nd, 2018, 8:41 am

retiredfrank wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 8:14 am
I already explained many times what the average man should do: wait until he can early retire (study Russian while waiting), then move to Ukraine and marry and raise a family here.
Out of touch much. I wonder if the hoes really do find you attractive. Well, that you think they do is important. If you think you're happy you're happy.

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Post by Strykr » June 22nd, 2018, 10:00 am

retiredfrank wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 8:14 am
First of all, I don't feel lonely ever, with or without escort girls in my life. I don't even care that much about real sex versus masturbation. But for whatever reason, I feel more complete having sex with a young woman a couple times a week during my three months in Ukraine. So that's why I do it. I don't expect the average men reading this thread to live like me, but I already explained many times what the average man should do: wait until he can early retire (study Russian while waiting), then move to Ukraine and marry and raise a family here.

Second, well I suppose I vaguely remember young love, age 16 or so, just like I vaguely remember being excited at going to first day of school when I was 6 years old. So what? I'm not 6 or 16 years old and whether or not those were happy years, I'm not interested in acting like a child when I'm near 60 years old. There are things I experience now that I was incapable of experiencing when I was 6 or 16. All things considered, I would say right now are the best years of my life. Having the ability to summon forth beautiful girls to do my sexual bidding in exchange due a small fraction of my discretionary income is a huge improvement over my life at age 50, which I remember much more clearly than age 6 or 16. I don't really care if the girl loves me, as long as she finds me sexually attractive enough to give good service, which she does.

I specifically stated above that you need to get an escort girl in your league to get good service. I'm top 1% in terms of body for men my age, top 10% for men of any age, which is why I can get a top quality young woman to find me sexually attractive enough to give good service, whether or not she loves me. I suggest you read my advice in the pot belly thread, because nothing ruins a man's attractiveness worse than being fat. And then do some morning calisthenics to build muscles, especially your forearms. And dress better. And stop acting like a simp. Few men are attracted to fat girls who dress poorly and have a bad haircut and act like giggling fools. So why should high quality women be attracted to junky looking and acting men?
Have you thought about when you are 65-75 or older. (From your description of yourself, you sound like you might live till the age of 300..) you will have nobody with you. You will certainly be lonely. I don't partake in the whole prostitute thing.. (Except for that one time, but I didn't know she was like that. True story...) So I'm not as educated in that department as someone such as yourself. But I'm sure there will come a time when that special girl, who WAS in your league, has a significant fee increase up to compensate for the fact she is now having sex with a very old man. I'm curious of your thoughts in the future. I get the feeling that you feel like you are too old to get married.

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Re: Dream Connections by Mark Davis - Is it Legit or a Scam? (Uncensored Open Discussion)

Post by retiredfrank » June 22nd, 2018, 10:37 am

Cornfed wrote:
June 22nd, 2018, 8:41 am
If you think you're happy you're happy.
True, delusions of grandeur works very well until and unless you slam into reality. A lot of guys in this thread were living delusions of grandeur until reality finally busted their bubble and then they fell into a depression. And in the case of marrying a woman, reality almost surely will eventually bust your bubble. Which is why I am doing guys a service by presenting the truth.

If you are so broke you can't possibly contemplate early retirement ($2000/month and you're rich in Mykolaiv, $1000/month and you can still support a family by supplementing with English teaching), then you shouldn't be reading this thread. Remember most of these guys think nothing of handing over $5000 for a two week tour, not including airfare plus we now learn you still have to split the bill for overpriced dinner and pay an exorbitant amount for laundry. And that's just the beginning, because importing a wife isn't cheap. And then there's Snede nattering on about buying women dinner and impressing them (Not!) with his single make scotch orders, etc. Did he ever have sex with any of these girls? Probably he'll hide behind some bullshit "gentleman never tell" excuse to avoid revealing what a complete chump he is.

Maybe you, Cornfed, are broke, but most of the guys here have enough money to at least contemplate early retirement. At least if they stopped pissing money away by letting themselves be financially dominated by Mark Davis. That what I thought of when I read Steve Neese whining about how he thought he was Marks friend but Mark had discarded him. Like a bitch who's just been pumped and dumped: "Please Daddy, I want that big financial domination dick up my ass so bad. I'm down on my knees begging to suck that financial domination dick and hand over another $5000. Please take me back Daddy!" Truly pathetic.

More than anything, these guys need to learn how to act like men. If they did that, they could get sex with the same sort of middle aged single mothers they'll meet in Ukraine, back in the USA or wherever else they came from and hence without the huge risk of marrying a foreign woman. I want young women, much younger than me, and that is not easy to obtain in the USA for the amount I am willing to pay, plus #metoo and false rape and anti prostitution hysteria is making all sex in the USA with much younger women dangerous.

As for calling myself top 1% in body, what do you want me to do? It's just as obnoxious to knowingly understate as overstate status. Body status is fairly objective. I score at the top 1% of army fitness tests for 25 year olds, for example, so surely I'm in the top 1% for 60 year olds. That doesn't mean girls find me sexually attractive, of course. Maybe some girls prefer fat flappy and poorly dressed old men, you never know, humans are complex.

It doesn't really matter because the self deception, if any, is minor. I want good service, that's all. If someone told me the girls were all crying and puking outside in disgust after having provided good service, I doubt I would be too upset. "The lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying, it gives me such a thrill when she grinds against her will". Google that song, oldie but goodie. In other words, there's actually something perversely exciting about girls who have to behave nice against their will, if you know what I mean. So even if I'm fooling myself, I won't be falling into depression if my bubble gets burst by contact with reality, unlike these fools sucking on and being ass f***ed by Big Daddy Mark's financial domination dick.

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