Posted: September 17th, 2014, 5:49 pm
If you are white, you will always attract the attention of sluttier girls in East Asia. It'd be hard for any non-Asian man to get a quality ideal Asian female.
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It depends where you are looking... many of these Western guys in Asia are starting with the sentence 'I met her in a bar' 'My bargirl is different' and similar BS.sea_dragon wrote:If you are white, you will always attract the attention of sluttier girls in East Asia. It'd be hard for any non-Asian man to get a quality ideal Asian female.
I don't think this is the case for Indonesia in southeast asia. if you hang out in the party areas where ex-pats hang out and pick up chicks, you may experience this. But if you work there and meet a woman on the job, through friends, or at church this slutty factor may not be the case.sea_dragon wrote:If you are white, you will always attract the attention of sluttier girls in East Asia. It'd be hard for any non-Asian man to get a quality ideal Asian female.
Yes, a slut. She isn't going to find a decent Vietnamese husband.Bao3niang wrote:I have talked to quite a few Vietnamese females. Sime are whorish / have issues but there are many decent to good ones as well.
1. Thuy Vo-21 years old. Basically a slut. Lost her virginity at age 16 to a 34 year old English teacher then messed about with some more Westerners and local guys. Said she loves me over the Internet. She eventually started talking about sex to me and even asked me to send her a picture of... You know. Which I foolishly did. Afterwards I saw too many red flags in her and cut her off.
This one sounds like a potential keeper. See, for example the movie Holly: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419815/Bao3niang wrote:1. Thi Hua-19. Chinese-Vietnamese with Guangzhou ancestry. Really small girl (4 foot 11) with big eyes. She was very, very eager to chat with me and I was on the brink of falling in love with her for quite a while, but eventually I found her too childish. I can't stand a nineteen year old who still plays with plush toys and still obeys parents (mother in case) when they are physically abusing her. I told her to fight back and stand up for herself but she said crap like "She is my mother, I still love her. I don't want her to go to jail. No have her no have me." When I asked her why she still SLEEPS with her mother at the age of 19 instead of sleeping on her own, she said: "Afraid of ghost." She was also a conformist and a crybaby. She does not even have the courage to refuse a party invitation from a bunch of people she told me that she does not consider as her friends.
There are all kinds of women out there. I think it's reasonable to want a woman who is smart in her own way.Bao3niang wrote:I like women with a degree of intelligence, depth, and inquisitiveness. At least she has to be sweet and down-to-earth (but not completely without creativity / imagination). Is this unattainable? I have never been in a serious relationship before.
Giving in to peer pressure? Maybe that's a problem if peers want her to do something bad (e.g. new Maury Povich audience style girlfriends that tell her to leave you if she'd married you.) She's really young and she can grow out of that.Bao3niang wrote:I found Thi Hua too sheepish, though she was nice and kind. I would have really admired her if she stood up to her mum and peer pressure.
That is a bit childish, but she is 19, and she may grow out of it. But if a man marries a teenage girl whose the type who submits to him and lets him lead because he's older, if she's good around the home (cooks, cleans etc.) and is diligent and enthusiastic in the bedroom, couldn't he overlook some plush toys? If she had to give up the plush toys to get married, she might do that.She is 19 and still plays with plush toys etc. A little too childish.
.... Besides, she told me she aspires to live in Toronto, Canada.
What do you mean? You don't want to date her because she wants to live in Toronto? She's never been in Toronto. If she's never even been in a walk-in freezer over there in her warm country, she has no idea what it's like. If she doesn't marry someone from abroad, she may end up staying in Vietnam, so if being with you but not living in whatever place you don't want to live is what you offer, she may still take it.She really hit some points that I cannot compromise on (ex: Anglosphere,
What is wrong with an unmarried woman submitting to her parents? That is a good thing, especially if it translates into submitting to her husband and respecting him greatly later on. That's what you want. Her mom being abusive is a different issue. She may be trying to do what's right even if her mom is doing what's wrong. That could be strength of character rather than weakness of character. The problem would be if she wouldn't submit to or obey her husband if he weren't abusive toward her. If she's okay being submissive to a non-abusive husband then that may not be a problem.submitting to her abusive mum
If he has more information than we have, you should listen to his advice.I can be very rigid when it comes to certain things. My mentor / future adoptive father and expat David said she's somewhat unbalanced for her age. Like come on!
As long as they are just sleeping its okay. I think you should run that by some traditional Vietnamese before passing judgment. If they are from a poor part of the country, for al you know, people may have small houses and it may be common for people to pile up in a bed together. This may be okay according to her cultural norms. It may not signal immaturity for them. The ghost comment may indicate she has some fear. Belief in ghosts and fear of them is common in some parts of the world. My office co-workers believed in a flying-head witchdoctor vampire when I asked them about this cultural belief from one of the islands in Indonesia. These were educated people.A 19 year old that still sleeps with her mum???
I think it's attainable if you play a numbers game. You may have to meet 100 women before you meet the right one. As has been pointed out before on this forum, searching for a high quality woman is like having a part time job.Bao3niang wrote:I like women with a degree of intelligence, depth, and inquisitiveness. At least she has to be sweet and down-to-earth (but not completely without creativity / imagination). Is this unattainable? I have never been in a serious relationship before.
I think western men grow up in cultures where they are taught not to be judgemental about a woman's sexual history. This is due to the influence of feminism: women should suffer no negative consequences from behaving promiscuoulsy. So western men that arrive in Asia meet a bar girl and think that it's okay that she has possibly slept with hundred or thousands of other men. I think that it would be hard to have a sincere relationship with a woman in that industry. Bar girls have learned to be very deceitful. They have learned to be very good actresses. They have learned to make a fat, balding grandpa feel like he's God's gift to women. You may never know what a bar girl's true feelings about you are until it's too late.Yohan wrote:It depends where you are looking... many of these Western guys in Asia are starting with the sentence 'I met her in a bar' 'My bargirl is different' and similar BS.sea_dragon wrote:If you are white, you will always attract the attention of sluttier girls in East Asia. It'd be hard for any non-Asian man to get a quality ideal Asian female.
Interesting observation.sea_dragon wrote:If you are white, you will always attract the attention of sluttier girls in East Asia. It'd be hard for any non-Asian man to get a quality ideal Asian female.