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Why not to get involved with bar girls

Postby Mr S » Sun May 22, 2011 5:04 pm

A couple of examples of why not to get emotionally involved with bargirls...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wGBl2eoz_4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpVRl3fu0us[/youtube]
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Re: Why not to get involved with bar girls

Postby OutWest » Sun May 22, 2011 5:57 pm

Mr S wrote:A couple of examples of why not to get emotionally involved with bargirls...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wGBl2eoz_4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpVRl3fu0us[/youtube]




Yes, that is funny...with every plane load of visitors come some guys who will be all over the
bar girls. But it does have an addictive quality. It seems that men who really get into
that rut often stay there, and become incapable of "Normal" relationships.
The amazing thing is that men often think that some little spooge pot will change just for them!

Endless tales of woe... the story usually starts with "I met this girl at..."


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Postby Winston » Sun May 22, 2011 8:09 pm

Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?
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Postby manly5000 » Sun May 22, 2011 9:51 pm

Winston wrote:Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?


It goes back to the old saying "You can't turn a ho into a housewife." When women give their body to many different guys, it destroys their ability to bond with one man. Apparently there's some chemical in the brain that diminishes with each new sexual partner a woman has so basically they're not physiologically capable of being both sluts and monogamous people. After only a handful of partners it's virtually guaranteed they'll cheat on you.

You can take the whore off of the street but you can't take the street out of the whore.
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Postby djfourmoney » Sun May 22, 2011 11:56 pm

manly5000 wrote:
Winston wrote:Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?


It goes back to the old saying "You can't turn a ho into a housewife." When women give their body to many different guys, it destroys their ability to bond with one man. Apparently there's some chemical in the brain that diminishes with each new sexual partner a woman has so basically they're not physiologically capable of being both sluts and monogamous people. After only a handful of partners it's virtually guaranteed they'll cheat on you.

You can take the whore off of the street but you can't take the street out of the whore.


That is not true, YOU can't turn a Hoe into a House wife, but if the woman in question wants to stop being a Hoe, she can become a Housewife.

How many men married to various women around the world willing know that their wife and the mother of their children turned tricks when they were younger? Most men never, ever find out about such activity. Especially if you remove the woman with a questionable background from her natural surroundings :IE a Ukrainian Part-timer who goes to AFA Socials and finds a man....
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Postby Rock » Mon May 23, 2011 12:06 am

manly5000 wrote:
Winston wrote:Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?


It goes back to the old saying "You can't turn a ho into a housewife." When women give their body to many different guys, it destroys their ability to bond with one man. Apparently there's some chemical in the brain that diminishes with each new sexual partner a woman has so basically they're not physiologically capable of being both sluts and monogamous people. After only a handful of partners it's virtually guaranteed they'll cheat on you.

You can take the whore off of the street but you can't take the street out of the whore.


Believe it or not, the first girl (married to the English water buffalo) might be a great girlfriend/wife to some guy, often a Thai guy who pimps and abuses her. But weak guys like this one will always be the victim. Its sad to see this scenario play-out - white guys like this lose respect in the eyes of their own people, provide ammunition to anti-happier-abroad feminists, and encourage Thais to exploit them as easy targets. Really pathetic. The girl couldn't even stand to sit close to him. Probably agreed to go-on show to make him lose face on national TV. And she succeeded even though she looked pretty bad herself as well.

And as to your question Winston, let me put it this way. I don't buy the far-out reptilian theories you often post about. But if human looking reptiles do exit, this girl is definitely one of them. Now does a reptile have the capacity for self-reflection, introspection, and self-improvement? A person like this can ruin or kill you and not have an ounce of remorse.
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Postby onezero4u » Mon May 23, 2011 12:11 am

haha

im a native english speaker and i coudnt understand half of what that big dude was saying to the bargal
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Postby manly5000 » Mon May 23, 2011 12:13 am

djfourmoney wrote:
manly5000 wrote:
Winston wrote:Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?


It goes back to the old saying "You can't turn a ho into a housewife." When women give their body to many different guys, it destroys their ability to bond with one man. Apparently there's some chemical in the brain that diminishes with each new sexual partner a woman has so basically they're not physiologically capable of being both sluts and monogamous people. After only a handful of partners it's virtually guaranteed they'll cheat on you.

You can take the whore off of the street but you can't take the street out of the whore.


That is not true, YOU can't turn a Hoe into a House wife, but if the woman in question wants to stop being a Hoe, she can become a Housewife.

How many men married to various women around the world willing know that their wife and the mother of their children turned tricks when they were younger? Most men never, ever find out about such activity. Especially if you remove the woman with a questionable background from her natural surroundings :IE a Ukrainian Part-timer who goes to AFA Socials and finds a man....


Yeah, and those women cheat on their men all the time.

Like it or not, it's true. Sluts almost always cheat if they try to commit to a monogamous relationship. It's simply their nature.

All these "born-again virgins" are fooling themselves and the men that love them. There's no changing a sluts behavior. There are always exceptions of course, but this is the rule.

This is why, no matter what, I REFUSE to ever get involved with a female who has had more than a couple of sexual partners. I've only had 2 myself. I need the same and it's not worth the risk.
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Postby djfourmoney » Mon May 23, 2011 12:59 am

manly5000 wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
manly5000 wrote:
Winston wrote:Is there a reason why bar girls can't change? Why do they lack the ability for self-reflection, introspection and self-improvement? What's missing in them?


It goes back to the old saying "You can't turn a ho into a housewife." When women give their body to many different guys, it destroys their ability to bond with one man. Apparently there's some chemical in the brain that diminishes with each new sexual partner a woman has so basically they're not physiologically capable of being both sluts and monogamous people. After only a handful of partners it's virtually guaranteed they'll cheat on you.

You can take the whore off of the street but you can't take the street out of the whore.


That is not true, YOU can't turn a Hoe into a House wife, but if the woman in question wants to stop being a Hoe, she can become a Housewife.

How many men married to various women around the world willing know that their wife and the mother of their children turned tricks when they were younger? Most men never, ever find out about such activity. Especially if you remove the woman with a questionable background from her natural surroundings :IE a Ukrainian Part-timer who goes to AFA Socials and finds a man....


Yeah, and those women cheat on their men all the time.

Like it or not, it's true. Sluts almost always cheat if they try to commit to a monogamous relationship. It's simply their nature.

All these "born-again virgins" are fooling themselves and the men that love them. There's no changing a sluts behavior. There are always exceptions of course, but this is the rule.

This is why, no matter what, I REFUSE to ever get involved with a female who has had more than a couple of sexual partners. I've only had 2 myself. I need the same and it's not worth the risk.



Broad assumptions...

Do you have proof these women cheat on their husbands or is this based on the fact that these women were able to have sex for money without seemingly any moral impact? By saying ALMOST, you agree that SOME women are capable of doing such a feat, correct? Because it is true. Just like porn stars though on the surface its ridiculous stop having sex with male porn actors but continue to make money by going the lez route. So women are capable of doing this because UNLIKE MEN live in a Grey World.

You think every prostitute thinks she's a bad person? Think she doesn't deserve a great husband, great kids, etc? Don't be silly. Also some men tolerate these activities.

I have said several times, I don't mind if my wife was a porn star or maybe even a high class hooker, why? Because that's a tremendous amount of money to be made for so many men that either don't have the time or the ability to find attractive women. Also your career is very limited, this is why SMART women get in young an get out young without any drug problems. Its far more popular to talk about the deranged women and women that crash and burn, than women that make their money and do something else without her pass coming back to haunt her (though it does from time to time) but they aren't ashamed about it.

We can all agree that Western Society has done major damage to men across the board under the guise of equality for women. However that doesn't mean that a good women is a characterization of a woman from the 1950's....
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Postby manly5000 » Mon May 23, 2011 1:33 am

djfourmoney wrote: Broad assumptions...

Do you have proof these women cheat on their husbands or is this based on the fact that these women were able to have sex for money without seemingly any moral impact? By saying ALMOST, you agree that SOME women are capable of doing such a feat, correct? Because it is true. Just like porn stars though on the surface its ridiculous stop having sex with male porn actors but continue to make money by going the lez route. So women are capable of doing this because UNLIKE MEN live in a Grey World.

You think every prostitute thinks she's a bad person? Think she doesn't deserve a great husband, great kids, etc? Don't be silly. Also some men tolerate these activities.

I have said several times, I don't mind if my wife was a porn star or maybe even a high class hooker, why? Because that's a tremendous amount of money to be made for so many men that either don't have the time or the ability to find attractive women. Also your career is very limited, this is why SMART women get in young an get out young without any drug problems. Its far more popular to talk about the deranged women and women that crash and burn, than women that make their money and do something else without her pass coming back to haunt her (though it does from time to time) but they aren't ashamed about it.

We can all agree that Western Society has done major damage to men across the board under the guise of equality for women. However that doesn't mean that a good women is a characterization of a woman from the 1950's....



All I do is read on the various forums (MGTOW, loveshack, marriage forums) stories about women with promiscuous pasts cheating on their husbands. I see first hand women doing this to their men in our society, listening to men bitch about their suspicions, debating whether to forgive her because she confessed, etc. For god's sake, it's GLAMOURIZED on American TV! It's all I see/read/hear about brah and that says it all for me. Not very broad of an assumption in my book.

I'm not saying prostitution is wrong. I'm not saying being a slut is inherently wrong if that's what you want to do. But I have a hardcore problem with cheaters, and refuse to have anything to do with women who are very high-risk for cheating, like "reformed sluts" and former whores. And despite the fact that I don't think it's "wrong" per se, slutty women physically disgust me. Thinking about a woman having dozens of different dicks inside of her, sucking the cum of dozens of different dudes, infested with STD's etc, makes me want to vomit. I only have interest in classy women who don't share their bodies with whatever random thug makes their 'gina tingle at the moment. It has nothing to do with 1950's values either.

You can do whatever you want tho brah, I won't judge you. If you want to commit yourself to a woman who's ridden overtime on the cock carousel and had 300 dicks inside of her, that's your business. Just don't cry about it when she cheats on you.
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Postby MrPeabody » Mon May 23, 2011 1:49 am

For me it's not a matter of morality, but a matter of being around people I can trust. Most people in the world are users, and finding a few friends who are both sane and trustworthy is difficult. It's really a matter of one's personal view of life. I would find being around a woman who is pretending to be my friend for money to be an unpleasant experience. I can get that kind of crappy experience by walking into the nearest store. These women in the third world who are in prostitution can be incredibly loyal and true to their family for whom they are collecting money, but that loyalty does not extend to the man.
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Postby ladislav » Mon May 23, 2011 4:36 am

Bar girls have the highest percentage of unmarriageable women. Most are prostitutes. There are exceptions to the rule such as some girls that ended up there under strange circumstances and are new to the scene- such as being there just for several days. However, almost all do not make good wives or gf's or mothers for their kids.
If we are spending years trying to make ourselves international people, we deserve better than a girl that works in prostitution industry.
Most such things happen in Thailand. The reason is 1) guys do not have the language, patience/time or the culture skills to court a regular girl.
2) The local normal girls are too hard to get for white guys.
Would you go to Las Vegas pole dancing clubs and try and find a wife there? Some guys would, most would not be crazy enough to do it.
Don't do the same in SE Asia.
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Postby Rock » Mon May 23, 2011 5:33 am

ladislav wrote:2) The local normal girls are too hard to get for white guys.


Sounds pretty similar to PI from what's been written on this forum lately. Here's what seems to be the typical options for white guys who wanna marry young local girls in either country, Thai or PI:

1. Prostitute from poor background: relatively easy to get for most guys but fraught with problems, similar to vid.
2. Regular peasant girl from poor background: relatively easy to for most guys but you will be expected to support her and the family on an ongoing basis. When the money runs out, so might she.
3. Regular urban middle class or above: very challenging to get if you do not have a solid edge: good looking / young / 1st world wealthy (Euro multimillionaire). A couple of the PI experts here have admitted that Filipinas much prefer local guys over foreigners.

Also, remember the Aussie guy we met in McDonalds last time I saw you. He's been coming to both countries for over 30 years, has dated lots of girls off the beaten track (in rural and non-touristy areas), and has children with local mothers in each place. Overall, he seemed to like Thailand a lot better. He told me he had a lot more bad experiences with Filipinos than Thais. Basically, in his view, whities get abused more by locals in PI than Thai plus PI is just more dangerous for theft motivated physical assault like crimes.
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Postby MrPeabody » Mon May 23, 2011 5:56 am

The difference between the normal woman and the bar girl/prostitutes is night and day. In Thailand, here are a few experiences I have had with normal woman - a woman offers to help me get a ticket at the BTS station when I first arrived here after seeing I didn't know how to do it, a lady sees that I am standing at the wrong pier for the river boat and comes up to me and tell me in English, a little girl runs up to me handing me something I dropped while I was walking on the sidewalk, a beautiful young Thai girl asks to have her picture taken with me after my English class, another hands me a post card as a gift and a message thanking me for teaching her English.
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Postby Rock » Mon May 23, 2011 6:40 am

MrPeabody wrote:The difference between the normal woman and the bar girl/prostitutes is night and day. In Thailand, here are a few experiences I have had with normal woman - a woman offers to help me get a ticket at the BTS station when I first arrived here after seeing I didn't know how to do it, a lady sees that I am standing at the wrong pier for the river boat and comes up to me and tell me in English, a little girl runs up to me handing me something I dropped while I was walking on the sidewalk, a beautiful young Thai girl asks to have her picture taken with me after my English class, another hands me a post card as a gift and a message thanking me for teaching her English.


Mr. Peabody, just a word of caution. You sound like you are experiencing a sort of honeymoon period there. By all means, enjoy it and get the most out of it. Thais can be extremely warm, friendly, and helpful. I've had many experiences similar to what you describe above. But there is a very mysterious and always changing side to the culture plus a very ugly underbelly which you will likely become increasingly aware of should you decided to live there longer term.

Sometimes, people you have known for awhile and have built a strong mutual trust with can suddenly turn on you for strangest reasons (from a western POV). If you work in a company there, you may have very warm relations with your local colleagues for awhile. But then one day, you start getting the cold shoulder from certain people and next thing you know, you've become a persona non grata in the office environment - coworkers shun you for no apparent reason and even your boss starts to treat you badly. You may do many kind deeds or provide substantial help to certain people. But when the tables are turned and you need their help for something important, they may disappoint you bitterly. You never know until the relationship really gets tested. And I'm talking about regular Thais here, not the bar industry characters. These types of unfortunate scenarios can play-out for a foreigner in any country. But for some reason, they seem to happen quite frequently in the Kingdom of Thailand.
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