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Saipan and Northern Mariana Islands?

Postby notfeelinusa2 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:42 am

Has anyone been to Saipan/Northern Mariana Islands? Could an easy going white guy fit in there? Whats the culture like? economy? women?
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Postby BigDug » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:34 am

My Japanese ex-girlfriend grew up there from birth till 12. Because Saipan is a US territory, she had the option of choosing either Japan or the US as her nationality. Since she was forced to move back when her family moved back to Japan at age 12, she chose Japan as her nationality at age 20 (adulthood age in Japan).

She only spoke English as her language from birth till 12, which made her assimilation back to Japanese culture difficult as she was learning Japanese from scratch.

She said it was pretty Americanized and lots of English speakers. She went to a Catholic English School as a child.

The wiki says the population is only 80,000 across all the Northern Mariana Islands with 62,000 in Saipan (tiny).

Sorry I don't have more for you, only that little nugget I picked up from my ex.

I know she lost her English skills from the lack of use from years 12-25, but her pronunciation was perfect. No "R" and "L" problems, or issues with "TH" or "F"...or turning "V" into "B". So I guess the people that grew up there speaking English speak it pretty well.
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Re: Saipan? Northern Mariana Islands?

Postby Jester » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:17 pm

notfeelinusa2 wrote:Has anyone been to Saipan/Northern Mariana Islands? Could an easy going white guy fit in there? Whats the culture like? economy? women?


Interesting idea.

Looks like an interesting alternative to Phil's for english-speaking Asia Lite.
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Living on Saipan since 2006

Postby JamaicaninChina » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:16 pm

Winston asked me to weigh in on this as I've lived on Saipan since 2006.

I'm not an easy-going white guy, :-) however, I've met quite a few there. (I say "there," only because I'm in New York at the moment)

I wouldn't call Saipan "Asia Lite," only because Saipan is not really Asia. It's in the Western Pacific and the indigenous people are Micronesian. The Northern Mariana Islands (14 islands of which Saipan is the capital, has been under German, Spanish and Japanese rule, and has been under US rule since World War II, so the "culture," while retaining elements of the "local" Chamorro and Carolinian culture and a bit of Japanese, is essentially US. What DOES give it a Philippino flavor, is the presences of "contract workers" who actually represent the majority of the 50,000 people on the island.

Another Asian and "other" element is the inflow of Japanese, Russian and Chinese tourists who frequent the island and typically stay for 3-4 days. (The Russians stay longer, sometimes as much as 1-3 months)

I have to say, however, that things have changed quite a bit just in the last 5 years. There used to be about 70,000 on island comprised mostly of Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, and more Filippina women who worked the garment factories that were once plentiful and prosperous on the island. All the factories since closed, and most of that demographic has left the island. Personally, it's still a great escape from life in the mainland, but from a social/dating perspective, it's not the place it once was.

The economy is "in transition" right now as a result of the factory closures as well as fluctuations in tourism. I'd say it would be a great destination for someone whose income is not dependent on the local economy.

Since being on island, I've created a number of websites, as well as written a few books to expose Saipan to the world.
(and you can check out my blog)

They include:

Jamaican on Saipan! The True Story of One Man's Escape From the Rat Race to Live a Private Nomadpreneur's Dream...(a Unique Travel Guide for the Rest of Us)
http://www.jamaicanonsaipan.com (there's a youtube video of a scene from the weekly "street market")

Chicken Feathers and Garlic Skin: Diary of a Chinese Garment Factory Girl on Saipan co-authored with Chun Yu Wang
http://www.saipanfactorygirl.com

Saipan Living
http://www.saipanliving.com

Doing Business on Saipan
http://www.saipanliving.com

WEBSITES:
http://www.welovesaipan.com
http://www.bestofsaipan.com
http://www.discoversaipan.com
and others.

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Re: Living on Saipan since 2006

Postby Jester » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:12 am

JamaicaninChina wrote:Winston asked me to weigh in on this as I've lived on Saipan since 2006.

I'm not an easy-going white guy, :-) however, I've met quite a few there. (I say "there," only because I'm in New York at the moment)

I wouldn't call Saipan "Asia Lite," only because Saipan is not really Asia.


Jamaican, would you recommend Saipan for someone looking for a relaxed, non-judgemental place to live with two or three women - Filipinas, Russians, whatever?
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Postby Winston » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:36 pm

It looks like Walt is the authority on Saipan. He is even a celebrity there.

Here is Walt's post on why he loves Saipan:

http://www.jamaicaninchina.com/?p=2035

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Saipan will always have a special place in my heart and soul for one simple reason: the CNMI was the first country that I consciously deliberately CHOSE to live as a self-aware human being.

Through a fortunate “accidentâ€￾ of birth, I landed in Jamaica, West Indies. And while I’m eternally thankful I did, I didn’t choose to be there (not consciously anyway).

When my parents emigrated to the US mainland, I wasn’t part of that decision-making process either.

But, Saipan! Ahhh, yes Saipan! I ended up here, motivated by the pursuit of my own definition of happiness. I didn’t come here for a job.

I didn’t come here for family. I came here simply for freedom and happiness.

And to share that happiness, beginning in 2006, I started writing for the Saipan Tribune, did a few “saipanpreneurâ€￾ workshops, gave a few tours to visiting tourists, and, beginning with WELOVESAIPAN.com, started a bunch of websites all of which you can view at BestofSaipan.com

Six years later, people are still discovering Saipan through those sites….which brings me to my request:

I’ve just revamped the WELOVESAIPAN site, but I need some new faces and stories to post on the site since a few of the currently featured residents have moved on. I’d especially like to hear from and feature those individuals who are currently active in bringing about change in the CNMI! (don’t be shy, you and I know who you are, and this is a good way to speak out and take control of Saipan’s image on a popular site that people find through Google)

If you’re a current–or even past–resident who’s coming back (and I’m hearing from a few), check out the new format of WeLoveSaipan.com. Email me with a testimonial of why you (still) love Saipan, and attach or link me to a photo you’d like to use! It’s that simple, but it will make a powerful public, and global statement!

Let me get you started: “It’s because I DO STILL love Saipan and want it to maintain its beauty, as well as evolve and prosper that I do what I do….â€￾
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Re: Saipan and Northern Mariana Islands?

Postby momopi » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:36 am

notfeelinusa2 wrote:Has anyone been to Saipan/Northern Mariana Islands? Could an easy going white guy fit in there? Whats the culture like? economy? women?


Ask folks who lived there:
http://brianandrachelmorris.blogspot.com/
http://brianandrachelmorris.blogspot.co ... ianas.html
http://brianandrachelmorris.blogspot.co ... nacks.html
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Re: Living on Saipan since 2006

Postby JamaicaninChina » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:03 am

Jester wrote:
JamaicaninChina wrote:Winston asked me to weigh in on this as I've lived on Saipan since 2006.

I'm not an easy-going white guy, :-) however, I've met quite a few there. (I say "there," only because I'm in New York at the moment)

I wouldn't call Saipan "Asia Lite," only because Saipan is not really Asia.


Jamaican, would you recommend Saipan for someone looking for a relaxed, non-judgemental place to live with two or three women - Filipinas, Russians, whatever?


hey Jester!
I love that question! Okay. so here are a few observations and experiences about Saipan that can help you. (As a writer who LOVES answering questions like this, I'm going to refer you to books I've written that answer THOSE specific questions!)

1. Saipan is essentially a "small town in the middle of the Pacific Ocean." That's important because within a few weeks of being there, everyone will know your business. When I first landed there, I made the "mistake" of thinking that I could just blend in to the anonymous crowd, and that the people I was seen hanging out with were just as anonymous. Come to find out that everyone knows who the new guy is, everyone knows who the girl he met is (and the details her past), etc. As I wrote about in Jamaican on Saipan: One man's ongoing story to escape the rat race and live a dream life; a travel guide for the rest of us, I went out with a young lady, and by the time I got back home to where I was staying, my host, who was at home watching tv the whole time, said, "Hey Walt, I heard you were out and about town, and I heard you weren't alone!"

So, why is that important? Well, when presented with the reality of being one of a "harem," a young lady I know said "For me, is no problem, but I worry about losing face here on Saipan." She was from Thailand, where polygamy was just made a "no no" by civil law in 1935, so I imagine the openness to it is vestigial.

So, one aspect of the short answer that I'll say to you is: If the women already live there, their openness to that lifestyle might be affected by how they feel they might be judged by their peers. If, on the other hand, you bring your "roommates" with you, then it might be a little easier.


2. The other reason I love that question is that it is in total alignment with the "Harem" ideal in "If you want to be my girlfriend..." A man's guide for setting standards, living and loving true to your self, getting and satisfying the women you want...all without EVER compromising your masculinity.. So, let me say this about that: You will have much more latitude in structuring the type of relationship you want once you are abroad. I couldn't have related this book had I not lived on Saipan, China, etc, and experienced gender relations outside the western paradigm.

If I keep writing, I'll end up just writing another book here on this forum! Hope some of that helps!
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