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Well yeah, compared to the US, 2 girls flirting with you from another country in one year is better than none in 10 years in the US. It's all relative. When I encountered filipinos in the US though, they tried to hook me up with their family members(including women who were 17, close to 18 ) on many separate occasions. Yeah, it wasn't a whole lot in the grand scheme of things, but just ONE time was better than NONE. Even if I turned them all down, which was kind of stupid on my part, thinking back on it.
Perhaps I'm too much in my own world and miss it sometimes but wherever I go in Phils (Metro Manila, Cebu, CDO, Davao, Gen San, Baguio, Subic, Pampanga, Bacalod, etc.) it really seems like most people (besides annoying touts in certain areas) just ignore my presence. I think I even get more attention in China, especially when I speak Chinese.
As for States, a funny thing happened to me. On my second to last trip a few months ago, a nerdy Berkley student got on BART in Bay Area, came up to me, introduced herself and asked if she could take seat next to me. She was very friendly and later told me that I reminded her a lot of a guy she had a crush on but wasn't available. We exchanged contact details too and too some photos. Hmm, nothing like that ever happened to me in Phils.
However, I joined a Philippine centric dating site and seem to attract all kinds of interest from Pinays there. The irritating thing is, even though I emphasize that I'm looking for taller girls (which I define as just 5'5" or above in a short country like Phils) in my title and again in what I'm searching for section, majority of girls who write or express interest are shorter
One thing u should understand if u r an average looking male of white European ancestry - your genes represent a sort of opportunity to a lot of Pinays. The beautiful people u see in Phils are almost all mixed with a good degree of NE Asian or white blood, ie not pure or nearly pure Malay blood. There are international standards of beauty which supersede cultural preferences. Someone who rates very highly in one country or culture will do well in other cultures and same holds for those who rate as very unattractive. Vast majority of Pinays you see out and about publicly in most of the country seem to have unfortunate genes from an aesthetic point of view at least. Most purer Pinays seem to have at least a few of the following:
- receding chin and bite
- prominent skin moles
- proportionally wide shoulders
- extreme short stature
- large pores at an early age
- short nose with low bridge
- poor skin elasticity which leads to premature wrinkling, nasty stretch marks for mothers, and saggy breasts
They also often have poor health (asthma and weight problems seem common for example).
So Phils may be a great place to go as a white guy from the first world if you want to date a lot of 5s, 4s, and below. Cus given your economic and genetic advantage, you can be confident that you are an good catch from an objective POV and will probably be popular with many members of the opposite sex one way or another.
But if you cherry pick (needles in haystack) by focusing on the small group of objectively attractive and often commensurately pickier Pinays, especially those who are financially independent, jury is still out as to whether or not you will enjoy any dating handicap at all vis-a-vis some of the better other countries.
My suggestion is that Rock and Ginger marry immediately; they are perfectly compatible
Rock goes to PI and gets no attention and Ginger does not flirt with foreigners.
Ginger - seriously. Everyone here can be fairly argumentative in nature. But when guy after guy reports his personal experiences and you imply that they can't be true and the guys are misinterpreting - that crosses the line and can be perceived as offensive. Personally, I have no reason to lie about my experiences. If anything I underreport what I experience because I know someone will question my honestly or accuracy, which pisses me off!
So to resolve this issue once and for all, I am posting my guide to know when you are being flirted with in the Philippines
HOW TO KNOW WHEN YOU ARE BEING FLIRTED WITH IN PHILS
1. The girl asks you if you are new to her city and have anyone to show you around.
2. The girl asks you if you have a Pinay gf.
3. The girl asks you if you want a Pinay gf.
4. The girl asks you what hotel you are staying at and how you like it.
5. The girl happily accepts your invitation to coffee or dinner.
6. The girl professes she is falling for you even before the coffee arrives.
7. The girl happily accepts your invitation to your room after coffee or dinner.
8. The girl asks you what your shoe size is and says that foreign men have "bigger feet" than Pinoys.
9. You spend weeks in Phils and the only time you are alone is just after you arrive and just before you leave the airport.
Yes I wrote this tongue in cheek - but not by much!
I tend to think the idea of a girl "sexually harassing" a man is absurd and helps play into the feminist narrative that gender is a social construct, therefore, a behavior from a man or woman is equal. It's like the idea that female teachers who screw male students are predators. I think that plays into the narrative as well. What young man did not want to screw a teacher or two? If only.
Now, that being said, the very concept of "sexual harassment" is feminist and evil. It is the criminalization of flirting and male courting behavior.
It's like how "hate crime" is a corruption of the idea of crime. No crime is special, lest certain groups get special privileges under the law.
Sexual harassment is not real. There is harassment, and that's it. (And hitting on a girl is not harassment.) "Sexual harassment" is a contrived thing.
A girl in China did that to me, and actually showed me around for a few hours. See http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=15815
Happens to me in Mexico quite a lot. (Replace "Pinay" with "Mexicana.")
The girl in China helped me find a cheap, clean, and safe place to stay at.
I recently did so in Mexico, and ended up kissing her hand. See my response at the end of page 1: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=16186
Many times they are just being friendly with no romantic intentions - at first. But outside the U.S. matrix, it's not that hard for you, the guy, to take it up to the next level.
I did read your posts. You started out by saying:
"Why do some foreigners tend to think that pinays are soooooo into them that some are even sexually harassing them? In all the cases I mentioned, it's the guys who are harassing me, but clearly they might be thinking it's me who is throwing the harassment signals. GRRRRRR (sorry, pet peeve, ranting mode )"
All Taco, Outwest, Mr. S and others said (me included) is that flirtation is common in PI and can become quite aggressive and some Pinays hit on some Western guys. Frankly I find it fun; Taco felt it bordered on harassment. I don't think anyone seriously considers it sexual harassment in the Western legal sense of the term.
But you took it further denying that the men knew the difference between friendly smiles and being hit on. I think they know the difference. I certainly do. Does every Pinay hit on foreign guys? Of course not. But it happens, and happens often enough that many men report the phenomena.You might consider the possibility that they are accurately reporting their experiences. You claimed in another thread to respect direct discourse, yet when guys are direct about their own personal experiences (not just their opinions on something they haven't experienced) you argue the point. It's a silly debate.
The bottom line is that many Western men report that they are often hit on by Pinays. Believe it, don't believe it - doesn't matter.
Oh, one more addition to my list HOW TO KNOW WHEN YOU ARE BEING FLIRTED WITH IN PHILS
10. The girl goes to your room and screws your brains out afterwards. That might just indicate she was flirting with you, but I could be wrong
As a recently married man, my concern was having friendly, sexy, virgin, teenage girls in their prime throwing themselves at me on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. I have my wedding ring on, they know I'm married but they don't seem to care, some of them even know my wife. In fact, they'll try to convince you that your wife or girlfriend is no good so they can move in for the kill. I guess, "husband stealing" might be a better term for what I experience than "sexual harassment".
I shall believe you because in some parts you are only speaking for yourself, just don't speak for other men, that is silly.
Why can't people agree to disagree? I do not agree with Taco's post and I think he is misinterpreting lots of cues. I agree with Mr S and you. What is wrong with it?
Sheesh really. Taco can speak for himself, no need to play big bro guys. Okay just to end this, I believe in taco, I believe in taco especially if with beef and some salsa on the side lol
I do not promise to be gingerly
Okay now I understand you.
Don't mind those sort of women. I guess they are the equivalent of trailer trash (not sure if I used the term correctly), or are plain desperate or downright evil.
See, you could have said this sooner. Grrrrr
I'll be nicer to you from now on, now that I finally have data to understand where you are coming from.
I do not promise to be gingerly