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Post by zboy1 » November 19th, 2012, 10:39 pm

ladislav wrote:You were posting faster than me. But you are right- Mongols and Russians intermarried later on and made peace.

And you are also right about Anglos/Germanics not liking Slavs but they did tolerate and semi accept Catholic Slavs- which included Catolic Ukrainians and Slovenes/Croats- these could become good Austrians.

Orthodox Slavs were disliked and their countries were declared not to be in Europe. Again, an opinion, but a very strong one.

Having said that, an average Korean, Chinese and Japanese cannot distinguish an Eastern Slav from an Anglo Saxon/Germanic.
Dude, what happened to you man? You seem so bitter nowadays. You used to be one of the best posters before on HA and now.... And why keep rehashing the 'Asians are racist meme', when most people already acknowledge that is the case! It gets old after a while.

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Post by Billy » November 19th, 2012, 10:56 pm

yakuza you are wrong. the muslims attacked the christians. looks like you know nothing about the muslim expansion. the places where the arabs conquered were mostly christian countries. iran was zoroastrian had a great culture. it was conquered by the muslims. same with northafrica which was also more christian. at 700 spain was conquered. the reconquista ended 1492. then the spanish became aggressive. as you see one pushes the other.

the attack from europe came about the 1200.

as i said the push came from the east. russions see the times with the mongols as their dark period.

islam killed atheist. as they were not beliverst. others have to pay and often become slaves. come on islam is a much crueller religion.

christianity made the europeans softer but like china with buddhism in the end stronger. because people would obey easier and politics would be easier.

the thing is when the mongols and turks would be successful in invading japan history would have become much more different.

it´s stupid to talk about who was the good guy in history and who was the bad guy. there will be allways different perspectives. you say for example you like the warrior mentality. so the imperialists were stronger so you should find them good.

you take world history far to serious.....


yes muslims and mongols wanted only "their money and women".... haha what else ist left then....

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Post by publicduende » November 19th, 2012, 11:05 pm

Billy wrote:yakuza you are wrong. the muslims attacked the christians. looks like you know nothing about the muslim expansion. the places where the arabs conquered were mostly christian countries. iran was zoroastrian had a great culture. it was conquered by the muslims. same with northafrica which was also more christian. at 700 spain was conquered. the reconquista ended 1492. then the spanish became aggressive. as you see one pushes the other.

the attack from europe came about the 1200.

as i said the push came from the east. russions see the times with the mongols as their dark period.

islam killed atheist. as they were not beliverst. others have to pay and often become slaves. come on islam is a much crueller religion.

christianity made the europeans softer but like china with buddhism in the end stronger. because people would obey easier and politics would be easier.

the thing is when the mongols and turks would be successful in invading japan history would have become much more different.

it´s stupid to talk about who was the good guy in history and who was the bad guy. there will be allways different perspectives. you say for example you like the warrior mentality. so the imperialists were stronger so you should find them good.

you take world history far to serious.....


yes muslims and mongols wanted only "their money and women".... haha what else ist left then....
The statement in bold is the best thing I have ever read from you, arkadasim :) No single society, civilisation, culture, philosophy, religion can ever be taken as an absolute positive or, by the same token, as an absolute negative. The Ottoman empire worked as the Mediterranean's cultural lighthouse in a time when Europe was stuck in extreme fragmentation and endless pro-Pope vs pro-Emperor petty fights. Ancient Romans sowed the seed of their own decline far before the barbarians came along to crack the fragile shell and wreak havoc. Even the Nazis and the Fascists were responsible for a number of great acts of social and economy policy, some of which are still standing today.

You're also right to say people shouldn't take history too seriously, as having a very strong stance almost always denotes a personal bias. Unfortunately, it is true that history is writtem by its winners...at any given point in time.

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Post by Billy » November 19th, 2012, 11:23 pm

thanks public arkadas, i think our young friend is so full of testosterone that he goes to far. but in his age it´s ok. but not allways ist he "white devil" to blame and certainly not jesus. i don´t think he was a brutal imperialist :)

anyway life goes on and remember yakuza, i read somewhere who takes the sword will be killed by the sword.

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Post by ladislav » November 20th, 2012, 12:53 am

zboy1 wrote:
ladislav wrote:You were posting faster than me. But you are right- Mongols and Russians intermarried later on and made peace.

And you are also right about Anglos/Germanics not liking Slavs but they did tolerate and semi accept Catholic Slavs- which included Catolic Ukrainians and Slovenes/Croats- these could become good Austrians.

Orthodox Slavs were disliked and their countries were declared not to be in Europe. Again, an opinion, but a very strong one.

Having said that, an average Korean, Chinese and Japanese cannot distinguish an Eastern Slav from an Anglo Saxon/Germanic.
Dude, what happened to you man? You seem so bitter nowadays. You used to be one of the best posters before on HA and now.... And why keep rehashing the 'Asians are racist meme', when most people already acknowledge that is the case! It gets old after a while.
I am doing it to level the field and to present the opposite perspective. Yes, it gets old but I am one of few people writing about it. Does anyone here tell people to stop writing about white racists? No. Such writings have a green light for perpetuity.
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Post by OutWest » November 20th, 2012, 3:32 am

Billy wrote:our young yakuza is full of energy and goes angry asian mode :)

He pretty well illustrates my point...just go into Angry racist Asian mode...I have lived for years in Asia and he is just another one of many...and men like him who totally IGNORE their part in creating stereotypes, pretty well assure white dudes of all sorts (Many as he correctly asserts, are scumbags.) an endless supply of Asian girls looking to where the grass is greener.

Angry tirades from angry Asian...same old same old...he fully plays into the stereotypes...yet again...sigh...


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Post by zboy1 » November 20th, 2012, 3:44 am

OutWest wrote:
Billy wrote:our young yakuza is full of energy and goes angry asian mode :)

He pretty well illustrates my point...just go into Angry racist Asian mode...I have lived for years in Asia and he is just another one of many...and men like him who totally IGNORE their part in creating stereotypes, pretty well assure white dudes of all sorts (Many as he correctly asserts, are scumbags.) an endless supply of Asian girls looking to where the grass is greener.

Angry tirades from angry Asian...same old same old...he fully plays into the stereotypes...yet again...sigh...


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So all the experiences of Asian men are all lies? Have you read any of my posts? I just posted some articles and a retort to your post. I'm not "angry" just sad and depressed about the situation of my fellow Asian male brethren. You will never understand Outwest, since you're white and not a minority. It's difficult for people to understand something when they're not in someone else' shoes.

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Post by zboy1 » November 20th, 2012, 3:52 am

OutWest wrote:
Billy wrote:our young yakuza is full of energy and goes angry asian mode :)

He pretty well illustrates my point...just go into Angry racist Asian mode...I have lived for years in Asia and he is just another one of many...and men like him who totally IGNORE their part in creating stereotypes, pretty well assure white dudes of all sorts (Many as he correctly asserts, are scumbags.) an endless supply of Asian girls looking to where the grass is greener.

Angry tirades from angry Asian...same old same old...he fully plays into the stereotypes...yet again...sigh...


Outwest
Misamis Oriental, Mindanao
So do the "angry Black man," and the "angry Asian man," not have legit reasons for their anger? Do the Palestinians not have a right to be angry towards Israeli's and the Jews for their mistreatment and oppression? People act angry for a reason, Outwest. And as a White male, you don't have much to complain about anyway since your the top dog in the racial hierarchical system. And no, I don't hate Whites--since that's what someone going to reply with next inevitably.

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Post by OutWest » November 20th, 2012, 4:51 am

zboy1 wrote:
OutWest wrote:
Billy wrote:our young yakuza is full of energy and goes angry asian mode :)

He pretty well illustrates my point...just go into Angry racist Asian mode...I have lived for years in Asia and he is just another one of many...and men like him who totally IGNORE their part in creating stereotypes, pretty well assure white dudes of all sorts (Many as he correctly asserts, are scumbags.) an endless supply of Asian girls looking to where the grass is greener.

Angry tirades from angry Asian...same old same old...he fully plays into the stereotypes...yet again...sigh...


Outwest
Misamis Oriental, Mindanao
So do the "angry Black man," and the "angry Asian man," not have legit reasons for their anger? Do the Palestinians not have a right to be angry towards Israeli's and the Jews for their mistreatment and oppression? People act angry for a reason, Outwest. And as a White male, you don't have much to complain about anyway since your the top dog in the racial hierarchical system. And no, I don't hate Whites--since that's what someone going to reply with next inevitably.

OK...spend your time and life as that angry dude...be my guest. Constructive men of all colors are spending their time, well, being constructive. That hierarchical system you spout about would by far rather you waste your time pissing and moaning than actually doing something with your life. Anger is energy, and that energy can be used as fuel or just as a pointless explosion, which is only destructive.

In reality we are not dealing with a race issue, it is more a maturity issue....things that former young bucks have learned, and how to be wise in using your energy. So spout, piss and moan, the powers that be will rest assured that you are wasting your time and life,
and somehow, I am unenlightened because I urge young men of any race to spend their time on constructive action rather than waste their life bitching. Oh, I forgot, I am white so I could not possibly understand...yada yada yada.

Old black men have typically learned this, and they have passed through the fire. Some of them are my favorite creatures in the universe. They have learned that truth transcends everything, and they are some of the world's most astute philosophers of the heart.

If you are black, I might advise you to seek advice from the wisest old black man you can find. If you are Chinese, I might advise you to seek advice from the wisest old Chinese man you can find. That is hardly foolish advice.


Outwest

I live in Asia, everywhere I go I am a minority. Some place like here in the Philippines, that is actually an asset. Most places in Asia it is NOT. I have been refused service in restaurants because I am white. You really need to get out. Spend time in China or Korea. They are booming, and the Asian men there are kicking ass! As an Asian male, there is hardly much to be sad about with what is going on.
It would sound like you are stuck in the USA around a bunch of provincial racist dumb-asses who think Shanghai is a quaint bamboo village in China.
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Post by abcdavid01 » November 20th, 2012, 4:57 am

Yakuza, you need to write a book. Or a least a manifesto. For posterity's sake if nothing else. I never had much of a connection to Asian culture, but reading your posts I find myself in firm agreement. Sure, you come across as a little angry in your posts. Rightly so. Anger doesn't make a good case in intellectual discourse. I am hugely influenced by the book The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism. This book makes it a point that is not about the "evils" of socialism as a moral argument, but just pure logic. This is how the most convincing arguments are made. Despite the anger, which I think is quite tempered from what it could be, I do find a great deal of truth in your posts. Now I feel I have a duty to investigate my heritage and reasons to be more proud of it.

OutWest, Yakuza is being constructive by speaking out. I never really had a connection to my Asian race because I never had anyone as a mentor and all I ever saw was evil Communism in China. Now I feel like a lit fuse and am going to make it a point to study my true heritage.
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Post by zboy1 » November 20th, 2012, 5:02 am

OutWest wrote:
zboy1 wrote:
OutWest wrote:
Billy wrote:our young yakuza is full of energy and goes angry asian mode :)

He pretty well illustrates my point...just go into Angry racist Asian mode...I have lived for years in Asia and he is just another one of many...and men like him who totally IGNORE their part in creating stereotypes, pretty well assure white dudes of all sorts (Many as he correctly asserts, are scumbags.) an endless supply of Asian girls looking to where the grass is greener.

Angry tirades from angry Asian...same old same old...he fully plays into the stereotypes...yet again...sigh...


Outwest
Misamis Oriental, Mindanao
So do the "angry Black man," and the "angry Asian man," not have legit reasons for their anger? Do the Palestinians not have a right to be angry towards Israeli's and the Jews for their mistreatment and oppression? People act angry for a reason, Outwest. And as a White male, you don't have much to complain about anyway since your the top dog in the racial hierarchical system. And no, I don't hate Whites--since that's what someone going to reply with next inevitably.
OK...spend your time and life as that angry dude...be my guest. Constructive men of all colors are spending their time, well, being constructive. That hierarchical system you spout about would by far rather you waste your time pissing and moaning than actually doing something with your life. Anger is energy, and that energy can be used as fuel or just as a pointless explosion, which is only destructive.

In reality we are not dealing with a race issue, it is more a maturity issue....things that former young bucks have learned, and how to be wise in using your energy. So spout, piss and moan, the powers that be will rest assured that you are wasting your time and life,
and somehow, I am unenlightened because I urge young men of any race to spend their time on constructive action rather than waste their life bitching. Oh, I forgot, I am white so I could not possibly understand...yada yada yada.

Old black men have typically learned this, and they have passed through the fire. Some of them are my favorite creatures in the universe. They have learned that truth transcends everything, and they are some of the world's most astute philosophers of the heart.

If you are black, I might advise you to seek advice from the wisest old black man you can find. If you are Chinese, I might advise you to seek advice from the wisest old Chinese man you can find. That is hardly foolish advice.


Outwest

I live in Asia, everywhere I go I am a minority. Some place like here in the Philippines, that is actually an asset. Most places in Asia it is NOT. I have been refused service in restaurants because I am white. You really need to get out. Spend time in China or Korea. They are booming, and the Asian men there are kicking a**! As an Asian male, there is hardly much to be sad about with what is going on.
It would sound like you are stuck in the USA around a bunch of provincial racist dumb-asses who think Shanghai is a quaint bamboo village in China.

That is some psychobabble bulls*it you wrote. And you're the one who bought up the negativity with the 'Asian men beat up their women' and 'Asian women don't want to deal with patriarchal Asian men' in your post. And to you point, I'll be headed to Asia soon next year. That doesn't mean I won't try to help out my fellow Asian Americans and address their grievances--just like Winston has done in creating this forum and helping out many Asian Americans in their suffering.

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