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Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to the Asian countries - China, The Philippines, Thailand, etc.
Man golgi, if only all new members were this helpful. Yep, I've been to Tennessee...it's a great place. Cool mountains and such.
I'm loyal to certain ideas no matter where they come from or what form they take. Germany produced Hitler and Austria F.A. Hayek. Western culture produced the Magna Carta and people like John Locke and Thomas Jefferson. It also produced Karl Marx.
wtf golgi, your level is to high. are you on the right site
man, you are a rhetorical bombastic. you could write speeches.
by the way, why didnÂ´t you analyze my writings. yeah, i know i lack intellectual something . keep up the show....
i am sensing high iq on this thread. around 140. odbo thatÂ´s how itÂ´s done, baby...
Contrary to popular belief, there are very few countries where white people have any kind of privileges at all, as evidenced by mass immigration of foreigners into most european and anglo countries. Having moved to the Philippines earlier this year, I feel more welcome here than in my native country. However, I am overcharged for many things and my filipina wife is overcharged also when business owners find out were married.
damn nigga.....its hard that they charge the shit out of you. but at least the price is still low compared to rich countries. $300 per month for an apartment in the philly's is not bad compared to rich countries.
Yakuza, since your posts I've been doing some research. I asked my mother and she said her family converted to Christianity while still in China before immigrating. I also found a number of brands like Shanghai Tang which sells modern versions of traditional Asian clothing. Mandarin collars and the like.
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Have you read The Wind Up Bird Chronicle Yakuza? It's a very weird book, but there's some very powerful scenes involving the Japanese in Manchuria. It condemns the Russians, the Mongols, and the Japanese equally for their actions during the war. Very vivid, graphic torture scenes. Very anti-war, anti-violence book that doesn't take sides racially. This is by an author who loves Western culture, but is very outspoken against nuclear power because the bomb.
Damn, dude. You have some serious rhetorical stamina. I copied and pasted your reply into MS word and it was 11 pages long.
Thatâ€™s a start. You do realize that a nationalist who doesnâ€™t allow others there nationalism is an internationalist, correct? You have to be very careful of railing against other groups, especially majority groups, in countries outside of your country of tribal/genetic origin. Itâ€™s politically dangerous primarily because you risk being labeled the enemy, and justifiably. Morality is with you if you politically stick to your land of origin.
You are second generation here, yes? Then shut the f**k up. I say that for effect, not out of disrespect, to jolt you out of your self-righteous sense of history here. You lack perspective primarily because you are second generation here. You lack the perspective that comes with having had a war effect every generation of men in recent memory, and in not so recent memory, here. For worse, this is a warrior country. It affects the culture, and yes, it gives a sense of ownership to the country. And rightfully so, as war is a social contract with the men who fight it: that their lot in life, and that of their descendants, will be better for fighting the wars. Now, I donâ€™t believe that to be true in practice, as war is a sham and the social contract has been roundly reneged on, but itâ€™s the social contract regardless and you frankly donâ€™t have a right to criticize the culture of the people who it supposedly benefits without buying into the culture that has molded this country over the past three centuries. Put some skin in the game. Youâ€™re still young enough. Our families have sacrificed and risked everything, with often tragic results. How about yours? Howâ€™s your father? Is he doing well? Mine risked his life, supposedly for this country, and now heâ€™s dead. My grandfather marched on his land of genetic origin, Germany, and my father lost his life due to injuries inflicted in Vietnam. Weâ€™ve been fighting wars here for three centuries, and about 6 wars here just in the past 100 years or so. Frankly, you have zero skin in the game to be so angry. Go join the military, and risk your life as I feel as if your family hasnâ€™t done that yet for this country, and then weâ€™ll talk as equal citizens. Race being, then, inconsequential.
Alright. Well, how many Muslims are in Japan? How multicultural is Japan compared to Europe? Do that calculus. Youâ€™re complaining about business suits and English in pop-songs, and weâ€™re living with millions of Muslims in Europe. The complaints are quite incomparable.
For the most part, you are using Marxist style arguments. This is shameful for a nationalist such as yourself. See my previous admonishment of the Marxist that was before criticizing you using a very similar argument. I defended you by the way, and crushed his argument. Itâ€™s ironic that I now need to defend against the same treatment from you. Iâ€™ll chalk it up to your still maturing political development. Itâ€™s imperative that you become politically consistent. There were Vikings here before the Chinese, and there is now anthropological evidence that whites were once here before the so called Native Americans migrated into North America. There is also anthropological evidence (mummies) for whites being in pre-historic China. The point is that these arguments are pointless. No large scale political changes are justified against the interests of a European majority due to the historically varying status of scattered Asian immigrants. If you want to play that game, all that Europeans need to do is organize the tens to hundreds of thousands of present day Europeans in Japan and argue against well, letâ€™s see, how about Japanese privilege? After all, weâ€™ve been there since at least 1945 and we have rights too. I donâ€™t like the way that Japanese look at me funny when I walk into a store, or how Iâ€™m supposed to remember to take off my shoes all of the time. They yell at me when I forget, it hurts my feelings, and it makes me feel oppressed. I think that an anti-Japanese privilege movement is in order to recognize my oppressed state. One day, god willing, Japanese privilege will end and the television and preferences in Japan (especially of the females) will be wholly multicultural. See the danger of adopting Marxist strategies in countries other than your own? It gives license to make you and your people a political target as well.
Youâ€™re extremely paranoid to the point of being dangerously deluded. I say that while agreeing with a large amount of your other politics. As one of the other posters posited, I have a high IQ (98th percentile for whites) and two of my talents are a sensitive emotional intelligence as well as an ability to discern patterns and build accurate models from little information. The point is that Iâ€™m sensitive to my environment and what I have been programmed with in the past. For years, Iâ€™ve been studying cognitive-linguistic programming / meta-programming (general semantics, NLP, hypnosis, transactional analysis, the Leary 8 circuits, etc). I have never, ever, ever detected any social engineering or other similar message that communicates that we are to hate both Asian males and the Asian male phenotype. Not to be glib, but 1940â€™s Disney cartoons donâ€™t count â€“ Iâ€™d be interested in compelling evidence of this programming. Iâ€™ve never detected that type of aversion in myself, which would be a primary indicator of such programming â€“ as I would have had no resistance to it as a youth. Furthermore, Iâ€™ve never heard a single person, in my entire life in the extremely racist high-population multicultural area in which I live, voice a single negative comment against Asian males or Asian male facial features. I can find no fault with Asian males, except perhaps in cases like this wherein some emotion forgoes the complete evolution of a model. Itâ€™s not your fault, but you should calm down a bit and try to gain some further perspective before your anger eats you alive. There is quite a bit that you are flat out wrong about, politically speaking from the perspective of the type of evolved and calculated nationalism that will help you and your people.
Iâ€™ll check it out. However, are you sure that you arenâ€™t unfairly generalizing a possible lack of social adeptness to race?
To prove my point, Iâ€™ll jump ahead and quote a paragraph out of order:
Your concept of what is attractive is typically (relative to many young intelligent men) skewed and distorted. Letâ€™s break down what you said. You listed your concept of â€˜attractive featuresâ€™ as inclusive of: being culturally white, having â€˜talentsâ€™ (sounds like Napoleon Dynamite, no offense, câ€™mon, even you can laugh at that), having decent looks, having intelligence (if only), being strong, and some undefined others (etc, etc) that I assume are along the same continuum. Almost none of that is correct, with the only exception being decent looks (face, muscles) which will get you an interview, sometimes, but absolutely no more if you are socially naÃ¯ve / undeveloped. A PUA camp wouldnâ€™t necessarily be a bad thing, but itâ€™s unnecessary and I would assume that the quality varies greatly. I like control, and so Iâ€™d never go to one. I like to read/watch and apply. Look, youâ€™re obviously intelligent. I can tell you as a certainty that the answers to your woman problems exist in the form of information on the net as well as personal perseverance and application. Why havenâ€™t you applied yourself in uncovering the truth about attracting women the way that you apply yourself in other intellectual or political pursuits? I know itâ€™s possible because I did it to a reasonable degree. Iâ€™m 100% alpha and emotionally attractive now (meaning my personality is attractive to women), because I applied myself and fixed the problem. Also, none of what I do is forced. Everything is natural. The adjustment requires only perseverance and application. I can say, for certain, that it isnâ€™t your race thatâ€™s holding you back. Itâ€™s you. Thatâ€™s you in the avatar?! GMAFB dude. Youâ€™re fine. Itâ€™s not your looks nor your ethnicity. My brother in law has an Asian best friend who isnâ€™t as good looking as are you, is pretty f***ing boring, and he just married a cute white chick last week. Itâ€™s your stalled development as an emotionally actualized and non-needy individual thatâ€™s holding you back.
Again, you lack perspective. Youâ€™re complaining about English language in songs and the lack of traditional dress, and we are inundated with millions of Muslims and other third world extras in our homelands. To me, itâ€™s like a wealthy man complaining to a shoeless beggar that his $500 shoes have a scuff mark. In comparison, your complaints sound insane and absolutely spoiled, especially in relation to your level of anger. You can easily stop using English language in music and go back to traditional dress if enough people wanted to. Heck, all that takes is a lot of individual decisions to do so. Start rocking it. I think that would be both amazing looking and inspiring. The world needs something like that to look to in this day and age. So do it!! But stop rebuking me about my perspective when your perspective isnâ€™t comparable. Iâ€™m almost ready to stop conversing with you, here, based on this example of disproportionate whining.
No one raises swords anymore. You need guns, but I know that you were being romantically figurative. However, no one stands up to oppressors anymore either. Pretty much because of guns, prisons, and military strength/efficiency. Youâ€™re kidding yourself if you think that Japanese personalities are the reason as to why you donâ€™t cast out your perceived oppressors. Also, Asian male personalities are pretty much statistically uniform like that in northeast Asia. Sure, there are a lot of Alpha Asians. But there seems to be not a lot of middle ground. Iâ€™ve seen the same thing throughout the region. You canâ€™t blame the personalities of Japanese males on the war. More than likely, they are just like that, with warrior spirits that do require a cause and organization to ignite. I chalk it up to lower testosterone and higher intelligence. Neither of which are innately bad.
Well, every race is seen as positive or negative by the majority population anywhere else. You would have us be seen as negative? You are entitled to feel that way, but then you couldnâ€™t complain if we were to see you as negative. See how that works? In any case, being seen as positive is not the definition of the pseudo-concept of white privilege. Whites are demeaned and damned in Hollywood as well. Go check out Django Unchained this Christmas. That should stoke your white hatred and satisfy your revenge instinct, although it will be the poor whites who receive any cultural / violent fallout of that movie, just like poor whites have been the ones to shoulder the policy bias against whites in the USA. Whites whose ancestors never owned slaves and were more likely to be slaves, whites whose ancestors never laid eyes on an Asian, and whites who were just as much victims of the entirety of WWII as were Asians. Itâ€™s a shame that dead men donâ€™t tell tales.
So, itâ€™s â€˜certain Jewsâ€™ but not â€˜certainâ€™ Anglo-Saxons, huh? Interesting. All Anglo Saxons (people from the U.K., which is incidentally the most culturally destroyed country in the world other than American non-nation), are culpable? You think that Hollywood operates with autonomy? Interesting.
Iâ€™ve spent a week in Japan. That didnâ€™t happen. Iâ€™ve spent many weeks in Europe. Didnâ€™t happen there either. I was young and relatively attractive in both instances. Stop being so entitled and stop projecting your failure with women onto others. Do the work.
Okay, and so what is the effect of â€˜what you heardâ€™? Are you angry, and perhaps bitter? A little enraged at white men? A little jealous? Do you think that many women now avoid western males to avoid playing into that stereotype, when otherwise they might have been attracted if they were left alone to make the decision on their own? Well, I would offer that that all of that is the intended effect. NOTHING that you hear, as a seemingly rootless cultural meme, is not on purpose. You have to start thinking about the cultural effects of the messages that you receive, because that is the only way in which you will have control of your own thoughts and the only way that you will be able to glean an accurate worldview.
This is complete nonsense reasoning. I was raised not amongst Asians, and I am intensely attracted to many of the women.
This isnâ€™t true in Asia, the only place where your â€˜outmarriage ratesâ€™ count for anything â€“ politically or otherwise. You continue to apply Asian nationalism outside of Asian majority countries. Sorry, it doesnâ€™t work like that and it never will. Let me tell you something that you wonâ€™t want to hear, but that you may have come upon on your own â€“ or you will. Your parents made the largest mistake, in terms of the continued genetic significance of their lineage, by coming here. We all would have been much better off staying in Ireland, Germany, Italy, Japan, etc. We are the genetic castoffs of our homelands. No one here has any power. This is a slave colony, and it always was. You are revolting against slaves. White people here are oppressed through a myriad of official polices. When you complain about white privilege here, the significance of your complaint boils down to that you are pissed that you live in a still majority white society â€“ because that is the only mechanism of your perceived oppression. In complaining about that, you are opening the door to the further destruction of Japan by legitimizing such tactics against a majority population. Get you politics straight. If your parents didnâ€™t want to put up with a majority white country, they should have stayed in Japan. Yes, you are feeling the brunt of the cultural-emotional fallout of their decision, but in essence you are only a genetic product of your parents and they are responsible for the pain and disadvantage levied on their product through their decision to dispossess their-selves of their people. We are all dispossessed, and that is who you are railing against here. We certainly arenâ€™t in charge, even though I realize that you fail to see past that glaringly obvious illusion. You just arenâ€™t completely apprised of the facts, because it is outside of the realm of your perceived self-interest. I wish my ancestors would have stayed in Ireland and Germany.
Buddy, you live in a fantasy bubble that is dictated by an extremely narrow set of data points that you glean off of the internet. This last but of nonsense, I believe, is my cue to go to bed. I do think that you have potential, but that itâ€™s being misappropriated due to your current lot in life. Get out there. Read about how to get some p***y. P.M. me and Iâ€™ll try and help you out with a recommendation or two. None of what you stated in that last paragraph matters a mouseâ€™s asshole, even if it were accurate. Which itâ€™s not. It sounds like some deeply bitter mangina bullshit. Thatâ€™s not you. Shake that part of your personality forever. I know that you are better than that, and so I wonâ€™t even credit you with that last paragraph. Letâ€™s just assume that you were tired when you wrote it. Asians are some of the biggest whoremongers in the world, and they comprise the largest clientele for whores in Asia. There is no real whoring scene in Europe nor the USA that is on the level of the best Asian countries for it. The prostitution industry is driven by Asians even in Thailand, not Anglos.
For every story like that, there are ten stories of Asian males trying to cockblock an Anglo guy from dating an Asian. In either case, whatâ€™s your point? Who gives a shit? Why is this even on your radar, and why does it rise to the level of significance for you that it informs your worldview about white guys? The Asian cockblocking stories donâ€™t inform my view on Asians, as I know that more are cool than are not. I know for a fact that most white guys donâ€™t give a shit about some white woman dating an Asian. Personally, my response is â€˜good for himâ€™. You are outing yourself as having qualities that are less than socially desirable, as a man, if this bothers you.
The relentless parade of WWII movies comes to mind, wherein the whites are always the most evil mâ€™fers that hollywood can portray. And it is a relentless parade. Django Unchained is coming out soon. Remind me, what were the other recent movies in which Asians were vilified on the level of the Germans or in the upcoming Django Unchained? Remember, German Americans comprised the vast majority of the WWII American forces. Letâ€™s compare the levels of relative vilification. As I before stated, you lack perspective.
Youâ€™re too insecure. Being a nerd, today, can truly be cool if you own it in the right way. That means no insecurity. Iâ€™m a huge nerd, but only when I choose to portray that side of me. Become dynamic, and donâ€™t look to extinguish a part of yourself or that part of your people. It's actually a large reason as to why I like Asian males, why I believe they are more valuable to western society than any other non-white group of which I know, and itâ€™s indicative of deeper and very genetically desirable and adaptive qualities.
I just spent roughly 3 hours answering. This is it for me in this discussion, not out of frustration but just available time. It was nice sharing views, and Iâ€™ll see you around.
Yakuza, I wish I had 3 hours to talk to you but i dont. So, here it is in a nutshell. While you possess a good brain and can deduce things, your age and lack of experience and lack of travel make you arrive at simplistic and grossly exaggerated conclusions. Any semblance of accuracy related to your experiences about the US, but because you did not live for prolonged periods in other countries while speaking local languages and listening to what people are saying, you see things in a somewhat distorted way.
For one, the sex tourism in Asia for white guys mainly centers around relatively small red light districts in Bangkok, Pasay and Angeles City and well, mostly, that's it. In Tokyo white people are not allowed in the red light district so they cannot partake in the fun that the Japanese are having. Other Asians are welcome though. Huge areas of Bangkok outside of the Western tourist scene would not allow white people in. The Taniya red light district is for Japanese only. They are the privileged class there- they can go to the western Pat Pong but westerners are not allowed in Taniya.
Now, as far as Asians not going to white countries, who is keeping them from doing that? Amsterdam's red light district won't kick them out. Hamburg's brothels are open. Help yourself. But most Asian guys are too shy to travel there, because they don't....speak....English...and shy shy shy of white people. Shitting in thier pants. I dont speak English, I dont speak English. Who speaks good English there? It's Holland no? The Dutch also have problems with English. It is not even their language. Second, except for the Japanese, most Asian guys do not have the money to travel to Europe. But Filipino sailors ( Asians, right?) often bragged to me about what they did in Germany and Ukraine. But most Asians will still go to other Asian countries on sex tours because it is nearer and cheaper. And they will always go in groups. Shy, scared, trembling. They cant function alone and be adventurous.
Go to the Philippines and see how the Koreans behave there when they are in large red light districts where white people hang out. Most will never talk to white people- again, the terror about speaking English - most walk around in sullen, silent groups not making eye contact and not smiling at anyone and not talking to anyone. Like zombies. Then they go to some Korean club where they drink and sing karaoke and again talk in Korean to other Koreans and never even walk into white bars- no one will kick them out- like the Scandinavian bar where I used to hang out. They never came. I...tremble....ddddddooont..ssssspeak.. English. never mind that Scandinavians talk worse English than Koreans. Not even one EVER stopped by there.
Some Japanese went to a Korean bar in Manila and got beat up. The talk among the Japanese in Manila is- dont go to Korean bars- they will beat the crap out of you there. I heard in from the Japanese in Manila who talked to me in Japanese and told me about that.
As far as the Japanese being westernized and loving white people. They do it as much as white people like hip hop and popular black culture and jazz. It is superficial. In Japan the fear of foreigners is still very real. Most Japanese landlords will not even rent to you if you are not Japanese. A few young hipsters in thier twenties do not Japan make. Try living there and then we will talk.
Japanese girls hanging off of a white man's arms? Keep dreaming. Only if he is David Beckham and only maybe for some wild times by some people. A few riotous young people who like hanging out in Roppongi. A few hundred who enjoy white men. Most Japanese prefer other Japanese. Lived there for two years and seen all that. No eye contact with strangers, like frozen mummies. In discos they either go with groups and dance with thier group or if they go alone they stare in the mirror at themselves while dancing. No contact with strangers. Taboo.
On the other hand, Winston went to Lithuania and I have Asian friends who have been to Finland and Estonia and they had a great time. No doors are closed to them. Party and have fun. Meet some blonds. Have you ever been to those countries?
Most Asian guys do not even know where those countries are. And do you think they will dare to go there? Without a group tour? White guys will travel alone and explore new places. 99% of Asian guys will be crapping in their pants. I.....ddddddd..ddddddont ....sssssppeaak...English.
You need to live in other countries and travel. See what is going on.
Remember Malcolm X. Did you listen to his speeches? They made sense. He was right. But he was only right about America. He had not traveled yet. Then when he went to Saudi and was treated well there, he came back and changed.
Experience will open your eyes. So, for now, do not start your North Asian Mein Kampf book yet. Travel first, please.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
yakuzaa, while we all agree that east asia is abandoning its traditional culture and what an awful shame that is, i think you greatly overstate the influence media has over how white men are sometimes seen as preferable to asian women. i think two other factors play a much greater role.
firstly, women univesially find men with broad shoulders and long limbs (not muscles) most attractive. these traits are very common in white men and very rare in asian men it seems. the average height in asia is much lower than the west, which makes average western men considered tall in asia.
secondly is the personality factor. i much admire the moderate and straight forward personality of asians and lothe the superficial clown like personalities of many anglos/westerners, but women seem universially attracted to the latter. from my observations 99.99% of asian men in the west appear to be painfully shy/quiet while western men in asia appear to become supremely confident in asia. this is because they are in an environment without any other large egos to compete with so theres is able to flourish, not because of some kind of white privelege.
if a 6' tall asian guy with a confident and outgoing personality went to hungary or the likes, i guarentee he would do just fine if not great with the women there.
have you actually been to your ancestrial homeland? the internet is a TERRIBLE place to gauge information on this matter. braggers with the tendency to lie are the only vocal ones. i asked my friend who went to china and is an honest guy, he told me that only a small number of chinese women were open to any kind of interracial dating and it was generally shunned by the society.