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Understanding the "Hindu-Malay" Filipino Mindset

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Postby Jester » November 30th, 2012, 8:24 am

Rock wrote:
Seems like being in the States has given u a lot of time to reflect and share. Lucky for us. Keep it up.


Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

When in the Phils, Ladislav complained about language issues. Togalag, or not togalag, that was the question.

Now he makes the Phils sound like Shangri-La.

Not that there's anything wrong with Shangri-La...
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Postby Jester » November 30th, 2012, 8:29 am

OutWest wrote:
davewe wrote:Lad:

This is a really nice analysis. I have been a practicing Buddhist for 35 years (though not as fanatical as I was in my youth) and this may very well explain my fondness for both the Philippines and Pinays.

And the India comparison is accurate. If they are influenced by Buddhism it is the older Hinayana Buddhism of India, rather than the more modern Mahayana Buddhism of China and Japan. Therefore the more passive acceptance of what is around them, rather than the more active "change your karma" attitude of Mahayana Buddhism.

And yes, just about every Filipina I met threw around the word karma. When wronged they don't seem to rely on personal retribution or the criminal-justice system, they just assume karma will extract its toll on the wrong doer.

This also might explain our misunderstanding of their lies, assuming them to be just the standard Asian saving face, rather than a profound grace and acceptance of what happens to them. Of course this isn't a great attitude if you are hoping they will solve their economic and internal problems, but it is a great attitude to have when you are looking for a graceful partner.

Think I will share this with a few Filipina friends and see what reaction I get.



I have wondered about this very thing- and Filipinos really do seem tuned to karma, except when face has been lost. At this point many of them will leave little to chance and may look for brutal revenge. Little faith is put in the criminal justice system though, since it is a farce to begin with, and everyone knows it. Often there is this resignation in the face of horrific events, and in the Philippines there are plenty of those events.


Outwest


Outwest, do you find you can be of serice, or do any good?

As Davewe stated, it sounds great for finding a mate, and new friends. But can you also do some good, after learning to feel what they feel, and earning trust?
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Postby Jester » November 30th, 2012, 8:46 am

ladislav wrote:Real unadulterated Malay culture:

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All that tranquility is nice... adds to the Yellow Fever...

but in my limited experience, indigenous people who meditate, pray, see auras, and are very intuitive... whether Tahitian or Mexican or whatever... can be selfish and cruel in a relationship regardless of how damn spiritual they are.

These same pagan meditative folks used to eat beating hearts, and much worse. Modern India is indeed accepting of Whites, as Thailand (Bhuddist) apparently is not. But even India practices unspeakable cruelty against Christian minority hill tribes, Sikhs, Moslems, etc. And did so against Whites not that long ago. Pretty much the thing Ladislav said about getting a Filipino riled up. Tranquil natives can be cutthroats if aroused.

I may go seek what is offered by Thailand, Philippines, or wherever. I want to be healed, to become better, to love and be loved, to extend my family. But I need to remember that a culture that believes in caste(like Tibet), or that allows trannies to walk around soliciting, or that creates an expertise in sex change operations, does indeed need uplifting. Whether San Francisco or Bangkok.

Christian virtue does count for something.
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Postby Jester » November 30th, 2012, 8:46 am

ladislav wrote:Real unadulterated Malay culture:

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All that tranquility is nice... adds to the Yellow Fever...

but in my limited experience, indigenous people who meditate, pray, see auras, and are very intuitive... whether Tahitian or Mexican or whatever... can be selfish and cruel in a relationship regardless of how damn spiritual they are.

These same pagan meditative folks used to eat beating hearts, and much worse. Modern India is indeed accepting of Whites, as Thailand (Bhuddist) apparently is not. But even India practices unspeakable cruelty against Christian minority hill tribes, Sikhs, Moslems, etc. And did so against Whites not that long ago. Pretty much the thing Ladislav said about getting a Filipino riled up. Tranquil natives can be cutthroats if aroused.

I may go seek what is offered by Thailand, Philippines, or wherever. I want to be healed, to become better, to love and be loved, to extend my family. But I need to remember that a culture that believes in caste(like Tibet), or that allows trannies to walk around soliciting, or that creates an expertise in sex change operations, does indeed need uplifting. Whether San Francisco or Bangkok.

Christian virtue does count for something.
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Postby Anonymous1 » February 9th, 2013, 5:09 am

I do know that visayans claim they descend from 9 datus who came from Borneo to escape a tyrannical ruler
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Postby Jester » February 16th, 2013, 3:05 am

Anonymous1 wrote:I do know that visayans claim they descend from 9 datus who came from Borneo to escape a tyrannical ruler


Have to tell them the datus "had to leave because they were too wild for Borneo."
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Re: Understanding the "Hindu-Malay" Filipino Mindset

Postby woodwater » December 17th, 2016, 2:37 pm

Im surprised.According to the Hofstede model in culturs & organizations,which I sent once to Winston,Philipines is a masculine culture and not very happy or self indulgente,at least compared to central americans and scandinavians
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