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A Filipino's perspective on "Happier Abroad".

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Re: A Filipino's perspective on "Happier Abroad".

Postby OutWest » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:40 am

abcdavid01 wrote:
OutWest wrote:I am not going to waste my time educating them past their insecure reactions.


Really? Why not? Why not adopt a "spread the love" policy and lead more people to this site and its ideas? Allow others the same happiness you have achieved? Who cares if their offensiveness only derives from ignorance? It sounds like good karma.


Have you heard the term "Invincible ignorance"?
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Postby Jester » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:08 am

lavezzi wrote: there is no order on earth, especially not in the way your holy book says there is. how would you define the order? Big Sky Daddy God made the world this way? He is just a simple projection of man. there is an ecosystem which is orderly, but this simply settled itself over time. life formation is completely random.


Yeah so put some ingredients in a bag and see how they "settle themselves" in a "completely random" way into an "ecosystem that is orderly".

Let us know how that works for you... little man.
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Re: A Filipino's perspective on "Happier Abroad".

Postby Jester » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:13 am

davewe wrote:It's not up to me to become impoverished to test a woman's love. It's up to me to live the life I wish to live, bring her into it, limit her expectations, and then stick to my limits.


gold.
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Postby Jester » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:16 am

Rock wrote:
Jester wrote:
Plenty of women around the world prefer status to same-age when choosing a man. Forty year age gaps are common in the Middle East, for example. Status is attractive to women. And in many countries the night-club douche does not have status.


Really? Which country/ies in the Middle East? Tell me cus I wanna go there. And when u say common, do u mean something like 50% of men, 10% of men, or say 1% of men achieve such gaps with faithful partners at least once in their lifetimes? This is very interesting!

I remember, from one of ur previous posts that u r some sort of prodigy or genius able to attend uni as a younger kid. So maybe u r on to something I've missed out on in my travels and expat experiences. So please share.

But also let me share one example of why I am skeptical that women in any culture would be happy with such a match. In the book, "White Massai" author talks about how some young girls are chosen to be paired with certain much older men of high status as if this is a fairly common feature of Massai tradition. But author also discusses the issue a bit from the perspective of the girls directly involved. The ones who get chosen for such pairings are often horrified, very sad that they lose the chance to be with a more age appropriate person who they can develop genuine feelings for as a man and lover.


I am pesonally familiar only with Lebanon, where a former gf of mine was , as a teenager, smitten with a sheikh, who was unfortunately of a different religion. If you attend an Arab party you will see couples of thirty year gap here in the U.S.

Your Massai example proves my point however.
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Postby OutWest » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:20 am

Jester wrote:
lavezzi wrote: there is no order on earth, especially not in the way your holy book says there is. how would you define the order? Big Sky Daddy God made the world this way? He is just a simple projection of man. there is an ecosystem which is orderly, but this simply settled itself over time. life formation is completely random.


Yeah so put some ingredients in a bag and see how they "settle themselves" in a "completely random" way into an "ecosystem that is orderly".

Let us know how that works for you... little man.


Random...is entropic...what is the oxymoron here...to form and to be completely random- those seem mutually exclusive...." have organized molecules into completely random order..." LOL


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Postby lavezzi » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:00 pm

OutWest wrote:
Jester wrote:
lavezzi wrote: there is no order on earth, especially not in the way your holy book says there is. how would you define the order? Big Sky Daddy God made the world this way? He is just a simple projection of man. there is an ecosystem which is orderly, but this simply settled itself over time. life formation is completely random.


Yeah so put some ingredients in a bag and see how they "settle themselves" in a "completely random" way into an "ecosystem that is orderly".

Let us know how that works for you... little man.


Random...is entropic...what is the oxymoron here...to form and to be completely random- those seem mutually exclusive...." have organized molecules into completely random order..." LOL


Outwest


of course the force behind life itself, pure consciousness, is not random. however once it formulates, deterministic evolution via natural selection sets in. i was attempting to dispel the christian myth that "god created man in his own image". these myths are outdated. there are better and more accurate explanations for life which do not devoid it of meaning or purpose as most are under the impression in their current intellectualized mental state. christianity is redundant, and causes noting but more and more confusion. getting in touch with ones essential nature can reveal beautiful truth without personal bias.
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Postby steve55 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:13 am

Not too long ago I overheard a woman who is engaged to a man from France talk about how awful it is to be with such an "ugly" man and how she cannot wait until she gets citizenship so she can divorce him and take his property. This is the typical attitude Filipinas have, they show absolutely no shame or remorse for their dishonest and immoral behavior


Doesnt line up with the 20% divorce rate when Western men marry Filipinas. The USCIS and the Filipno government confirm this. I document all the stats and facts on this 20% divoce rate on my site. FUnny how we have different observations. IN 10 years of knowing Filipina AMeircan marriages, 90% are happy and doing wonderful and happy as can be. I personally know many here in Texas. Ive met enough filpinas in my 7 trips there to know that based on my experiences, your views are horroidly wrong. FIlipnas are generally wonderful and stay married, stats and facts support this. See the proof at my site for more.
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Postby zboy1 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:28 am

steve55 wrote:
Not too long ago I overheard a woman who is engaged to a man from France talk about how awful it is to be with such an "ugly" man and how she cannot wait until she gets citizenship so she can divorce him and take his property. This is the typical attitude Filipinas have, they show absolutely no shame or remorse for their dishonest and immoral behavior


Doesnt line up with the 20% divorce rate when Western men marry Filipinas. The USCIS and the Filipno government confirm this. I document all the stats and facts on this 20% divoce rate on my site. FUnny how we have different observations. IN 10 years of knowing Filipina AMeircan marriages, 90% are happy and doing wonderful and happy as can be. I personally know many here in Texas. Ive met enough filpinas in my 7 trips there to know that based on my experiences, your views are horroidly wrong. FIlipnas are generally wonderful and stay married, stats and facts support this. See the proof at my site for more.


Well, since you own a dating site, of course you're going to publish biased statistics in favor of overseas marriages. I happen to take a more balanced view in that overseas marriages do last longer than Western marriages and have a lower divorce rate, but I've also heard many horror stories from people and read stories online in other forums to know that its not all hunky dory that you make it out to be.
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Postby Johnny1975 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:37 am

Is it just me, or is this conversation getting complicated? I don't know what the hell anyone's talking about any more.
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Postby Jester » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:34 am

Johnny1975 wrote:Is it just me, or is this conversation getting complicated? I don't know what the hell anyone's talking about any more.


True, Lavezzi's snide jabs at Christianity are a distraction, really off-topic for this tread.

I think the OP was about whether the PI was a good place to find a lady. (The age thing is kind of related because it is a major plus for the Phil's.)

And SOMEWHAT back on topic, a couple from Davao happened to be in my apartment today. They've met one of my over-30 sons, and they also know my money is tight. I mentioned getting out of the U.S., and they strongly urged me to go to the PI, and Davao specifically. To teach English, or to do television, or to work online, or start a local business. They mentioned that they both used to do animation for an American-owned company there - so it's not impossible to do. They suggested one other business to me actually.

Oh and they have a house in Davao they rent out for 4000 pesos a month. That's about $100. Nice cost of living for a renter there!

These were not the first people from Davao my son and I have met, there was another couple too, same encouragement. Also intelligent people who were successful both in the PI and over here.

Mexico is closer, easier to get to, less shocking to family (than Asia), etc. But these nice folks did got me thinking about the PI again.

In the same vein, a sweet, Peruvian lady around my age told me a while back I would have no problem getting a woman as young as I want in Lima. As young as I want.

Here's how I look at it. I think the young guys here - Rock is one, maybe Banano is another? (too lazy to re-read above posts, please forgive me) - are just way too negged out by American culture. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You CAN get what is right for you. Forget the formulas, guys, the half plus seven, the five-to-ten-years-younger, etc. Go after someone you WANT.

The college age girl needs a man. She can marry, or she can date a boyfriend for a while, then another. But some girls don't want to do that. And some girls have parents who don't want them to do that. Instead, they want a good, permanent match. This is where YOU have an edge on the night-club-PUA-douche. You can get the girl that he can't get.

Now what about my case? Am I as handsome as a young competitor? Probably not. Can I beat his time and win the girl? Usually, no. But once in a while, yes. And, one is all I REALLY need, right?

The problem is not ATTRACTING the young girl, that just takes getting into a social setting, dressing nice and telling a few jokes. (For you it might be something else, maybe showing off your best asset or talent or passion.)

The problem is societal acceptance of the relationship. That's a problem you young guys don't have. So you should have the edge on me. But maybe you don't - if you lack confidence.

An above post questioned how frequent a 30-year-plus age gap is anywhere in the world. That misses the point. If I attend a Middle Eastern party of 100 couples, and 1 long-married, respected couple has a 30 to 40 year age gap, that means that that the age gap IS accepted in that culture. That's all I need. It's just 1 percent, but well, when I do it, it will be 2 percent.

Been there, seen it. Mexicans, Iraqi Armenians, Arabs, Russian Armenians... and plenty of Americans in the Phil's have done the same. If folks in the PI or wherever are willing to accept the possibility, without browbeating the girl, then the rest is up to me. I DO have to "bust a move". Some effort may be required!

This is not just about age. Age is my personal "handicap" (one of them anyway). Other guys are uphill on other matters. Like Yakuza who is Asian but wants a European White. Black guys who want a Swede. Or a short guy who wants a tall girl. Shy guys etc etc. Everybody has their own issue. (Except that model guy...)

You guys need to let go of statistics and make something happen. We are not statisticians writing a scientific paper here. Life is not a petrie dish, it is YOUR LIFE.

Odbo (and maybe Cornfed) posted convincingly about marrying within your race or culture if possible. It made sense to me, based on my experience. But nevertheless, i am willing to fly to the PI, or learn Spanish, if it means I can get what I want, in terms of femininity, upbringing, age, etc.

Or maybe I won't. If I am willing to provide a church wedding, and a ticket out, and a decent suburban lifestyle, I can do well with coeds in the FSU. Bottom line is, I can pay the price, or else I can compromise by learning a new culture in the "third world". So I'm not saying I don't have to give up something. I do. I'm just saying I don't have to give up EVERYTHING.

And if you guys will stop being so negative, neither do you.
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Postby jboy » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:55 am

Ginger wrote:
Johnny1975 wrote:From the mind of Ginger :



Thank you for labeling me as well Banano. - Passive aggressive. No introspection.

I guess there is simply no escaping the fact that I am female. - Passive aggressive. Playing the victim.

Oh well, I know even if I say exactly the same thing men say, someone would always burn me and resort to personal attack because I happen to be female. - Playing the victim. Appealing for sympathy.

Thank you for exposing yourself as a paranoid misogynist who likes to twist other person's words to validate your fears. I really hope for your sake you cross paths with at least one good female in your life who you don't feel the need to put under your paranoid scrutiny. - Passive aggressive.


You still have not addressed why you are singling me out but is too afraid to address male forumers who is saying same thing as I said re validity of OP's claim and his authenticity. Are you sure you are just not bullying me because you are a misogynist? C'mon if you got enough balls to be fair and be man enough, address everything squarely, but I guess you simply got issues. Oh well. - Playing the victim. Passive aggressive.



Enough already. Just ban this troll. This is exactly what we're trying to get away from, and yet this monstrosity of a female is still here.



Hmmm someone seems to be out of medications.

Who are the 'we' that you are talking to/talking about? What else are the voices telling you?

Dude, seek psychiatric help. Please. Do it. You are not gonna address your issues by projecting on me.

This is the last time I will play this 'attention seeking game' of yours.



Guy has serious problems lol. Don't mind him.
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Postby Johnny1975 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:38 am

She's gone, jboy, there's no point in sucking up to her.
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Postby jboy » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:53 am

Johnny1975 wrote:She's gone, jboy, there's no point in sucking up to her.



Most likely is because she did not suck up to you. I am friends with several members in this board and I know for a fact she does have a reputation for not wanting to give out contact details even if you message her. Classy asian ladies do not go for desperate men.

You must be having a hard on thinking you got a chance on a real asian lady that is not a sucky whore you can dominate, but she flat out spurned you, seeing the type of degenerate woman-hater you are.

Give it a rest man, I'm into caucasian chicks and she does not look caucasian. No need to bark at me nor at any other male members here like abcdavid01 thinking she'll prefer us over you. Last time I checked she ain't yours lol and you ain't got a chance in the first place. Women like that go with men not wimps. I remember she posted one time she's taken but I am not sure. You simply have no chance at all.

Me thinks you jack off to having her submit to you. Ain't happening buddy, you'll have better luck getting it on with your neighbor's dog lol. Now don't go rabid on me boy. Just roll over, behave, and play dead.
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