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Postby zboy1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:20 pm

Bro, since we're both going to China soon, I suggest to you that if you find a women over there---INSIST TO HER THAT YOU WILL NOT BRING HER BACK TO THE U.S. AND THAT YOU WANT HER TO STAY IN CHINA! As E_Irizzary and others have noted, as soon as you bring a foreign women back to the U.S., they become just like American women. And, if she was just trying to scam you in the first place, this will tell her that you're not playing any games! If she was only a 'greencard seeker', she will leave the relationship in a hurry.
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Postby Ghost » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:46 pm

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Postby Ghost » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:51 pm

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Postby Adama » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:33 pm

If the first story is true, his problem is he didnt put his foot down immediately. She is a bitch. The way she was talking to him in the first place? He is a wuss to accept that kind of treatment from anyone.

And yes, don't bring them back unless you are like Pete and really, really sure you have a sweetheart. This man obviously didnt have a sweetheart. She didnt change. She was already treating him like crap in China.

As for myself, I dont think I would bring one back. Only cause the power dynamic is too far in women's favor here, and I dont trust children with loaded guns.
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Postby kai1275 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:23 pm

Adama wrote:If the first story is true, his problem is he didnt put his foot down immediately. She is a bitch. The way she was talking to him in the first place? He is a wuss to accept that kind of treatment from anyone.

And yes, don't bring them back unless you are like Pete and really, really sure you have a sweetheart. This man obviously didnt have a sweetheart. She didnt change. She was already treating him like crap in China.

As for myself, I dont think I would bring one back. Only cause the power dynamic is too far in women's favor here, and I dont trust children with loaded guns.


Nuff said. Henry Makow, while smart and well reasoned, he does not advocate marrying women that are not Western women in the first place. His reasoning is to fix the ones here using Christianity etc. Almost all of you are atheist. So please think more about the messenger and his agenda before believing trash like this. He has 2 articles from guys with first names and no last names, with few details, trashing the 1 Chinese wife they had. I could go find you maybe 20 testimonials saying the exact opposite and some with the persons first and last names.

In the end, it's up to you guys. No offense, but most of you are very extreme polarized kinda guys that have deep trust issues. If I was not a Christian but an Atheist like you guys, I would not even want a traditional wife in a Western sense in the first place and if you guys are so suspicious of marriage already, why try to be something that you are not? What does marriage even mean to you guys in the first place? What is it that you really want?
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Re: My Chinese wife set a trap!

Postby kai1275 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:44 pm

Ghost wrote:http://www.henrymakow.com/my_chinese_wife_set_a_trap.html



Since I'm going to China soon and finding a woman is one of my top priorities, stories like this scare me. Reading through the comments, however, made me a little suspicious. There were comments saying AWs aren't always so bad as if to draw attention back to them and make guys think that they are acceptable. Another thing was a lack of people saying, "This is why you don't bring a Chinese wife to a Western country!" As far as I saw, no one said anything like that. IMO, that would have fixed this whole thing. If he hadn't brought her back, then he could have just left her in China. Either that or she could divorce him there (thus avoiding draconian Western frivorce laws.) There are indicators that he wasn't too bright with things either, such as how he met her because she was a student.

I'm going to teach English and if I had a Chinese girlfriend or wife who says that that is a "dead end job," and I need to do something "better" she's going to get dumped really fast...and she won't be getting anywhere near the U.S. regardless.


If you had a Sichuan woman for example, and she was critical of your profession or career, that does not mean she wants to hang onto you for a green card. Like I said in my guide, Chinese women are SUPER practical. They think like a man alot. That means she sees something that might need to be changed and she wants to find ways to fix it. If your teaching job pays like shit, and she know you could get more RMB at a different school/training center then that is the kind of "clarity" you need to ask for when you discuss that. Sichuan women are fiery and blunt, but they fight hard for their man. In fact a Chinese woman that is too critical of her man in public is strange or weird in Chinese culture. They will ride your ass in private if it is serious. Remember they are all about saving face! In fact a great many would rather try to fix you than divorce you and LOSE face! A Chinese woman that suddenly takes off like that story claims, is probably with a nasty really old man that is not only broke, but probably lame. They probably could not speak the same language either.

You know, just by knowing Chinese culture and letting silly SB Chinese girls know upfront that you know the games, you understand face, you know Chinese culture, and you ask questions upfront like the ones I put in my guide, you will get some, "Ok bye" responses. Almost all of the tricksters think all foreigners are stupid and do not know China. Letting them know how China savvy you are, repels them. I have lost count how many times that's happened to women I met within the first day of meeting them.

Of course there are always girls that have higher expectations than others. Some Sichuan lawyer I once spoke to, and some of the girls from very rich families, while very impressed with my self-made success, were not satisfied enough with me to pursue. I don't take that shit personal. Nor should you. Keep it moving. The money crazy types let you know very quickly.

Chinese women are probably in the top 3 of all kinds, in terms of ease of discussion. Without language barrier, you can f***ing ask them ANYTHING. 99% of the time they will not be offended and they give honest answers. Talk to them the same way you talk to the fellas, minus the profanity and Odbo style insults. You can find out what they are all about very quickly, when you ask the right questions. Finding the liars is easy too.
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Postby Ghost » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:22 am

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Postby kai1275 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:49 pm

Ghost wrote:It sounds too tricky and deceptive. Some of those cultural practices do anyway. I don't want a Chinese woman who will be nice in public and then a mega-bitch behind closed doors. I despise such dishonesty.

This will just be my first year abroad, so while I would like to have a girlfriend and just have some fun, I can't seriously see marriage in this year to follow. I do have profound trust issues. That may get worked out somehow or not. It has to be right, though, and so much rides against it.


Whoa, easy! Mega-Bitch? Only a AW knows that level. You don't want a person that argues in public, especially in China as a foreigner! You will get surrounded. If you need to resolve a conflict or a disagreement, handle that privately. Have some class, professionalism, and tact to you.

If you have trust issues, you need to resolve those before getting married. Otherwise you will plenty of fights, make her cry, or cause issues. Chinese girls are sensitive/innocent in ways hard ass AW are not. You could make her cry a little if you tell her something like you doubt they actually love you, when you guys are very serious. They are more pure hearted, so your hard and tough exterior will cause issues if you cannot keep that shit in check.

I know this because I have to watch the shit I say to mine, because she is not used to cold-hearted hard distrusting talk like Americans are used to doing a daily basis.
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Postby xiongmao » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:35 pm

Not sure I believe all these stories. Rumours are rife here and mostly they're untrue. In fact the government is trying to crack down on rumormongers.

Not seen much if any evidence of alcohol abuse in the south of the country.

Just be careful who you marry from any country. Is this story about bringing relatives over true? It's unlikely to happen in the UK anyway - it's virtually impossible to bring your own wife over these days.

Only met one woman who was dead set on leaving China. If they moan about their hard life in China then be wary.

Caring for relatives is just part of being married to an Asian woman, so don't marry one if she's not absolutely worth it.

The longer I stay here, the more I see myself having a girlfriend or a mistress, not a wife.
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Postby kai1275 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:10 pm

Anyone that openly says that XXX country is rife with alcohol abuse either has no alcohol tolerance or is a religious non-drinker. Non of my in-laws can hang with me when we drink. They all end up drunk.

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Postby kai1275 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:15 pm

xiongmao wrote:Not sure I believe all these stories. Rumours are rife here and mostly they're untrue. In fact the government is trying to crack down on rumormongers.

Not seen much if any evidence of alcohol abuse in the south of the country.

Just be careful who you marry from any country. Is this story about bringing relatives over true? It's unlikely to happen in the UK anyway - it's virtually impossible to bring your own wife over these days.

Only met one woman who was dead set on leaving China. If they moan about their hard life in China then be wary.

Caring for relatives is just part of being married to an Asian woman, so don't marry one if she's not absolutely worth it.

The longer I stay here, the more I see myself having a girlfriend or a mistress, not a wife.


You make a good point about rumor and China. I lightly touched on that in my guide, but rumors are soooo bad over there! People have told my wife and her family all kinds of false information before and during our K1 process, that it would cause delays when trying to get documents and things together. There is alot of value in having a smart Chinese wife, stuff like that tends to be mere annoyances than problematic.
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Postby kai1275 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:01 pm

http://henrymakow.com/real_men_would_defend_us_women.html
Real Men Would Defend US Women

February 19, 2012

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Real men would defend US women from the onslaught of feminism and the satanic Illuminati media. Cowards enjoy their degradation or run off to Asia.




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Jo said (February 17, 2012):
"It takes two to tango. Women are the problem because you don't want to stand up and tell the woman hitting on you that she's nasty and needs to change for you to be interested. Yea, you'll probably tick off a lot of women, but you know what, I'm sick of hearing you guys complain that nothing is changing ***when you won't stand up and be part of the solution."*** (asterisks added by me)...


Amen, Jo! A brief true story from my "Rocky Mountain Ski Town" years in the 1970s to backup what Jo said:

I was casually acquainted with a blonde girl, "Sherry," who ended up "joined to the hip," mind, body & soul, with a cute blonde guy named Roger. They were always together, two peas in a pod, very happy. I can still see their glowing faces & feel their joy, wrapped arm in arm as they always were when seen together. (They even got married which was unheard of out there since it was "Party Town USA" & well-known for its night life.) How did they find each other? They both told me their story:

Sherry was crazy-drunk one night at one of the many bars & proceeded to disrobe herself from the waist up! This was long before the "Spring Break Girls Gone Wild" videos in later decades, but evidently she was acting the same way that night, "flashing her wares" to the cheering crowd in the bar. Roger, just a spectator & complete stranger to her at the time, was ghastly horrified at her actions & felt cut-to-the-heart-humiliation FOR HER, & said he could not fathom what would make a girl degrade herself in such a public manner.

So Roger pushed his way through the crowd, got right up to Sherry in her drunken state, took off his jacket, put it on her to cover her nakedness, grabbed her arm & marched her right out of that "live porn" scene. (He did not do this so he could take her home & "get some," but because he actually cared about what this stranger was doing to herself.)

Sherry radiated (literally glowed) when re-telling how Roger had become HER EVERLASTING HERO at that instant, a man who actually cared about her well-being (out of hundreds of men in that bar) when she was "out of it"; & who actually DID something about it: He protected her & STOOD UP *FOR* HER (which is what every woman wants in their heart) & she was in awe & madly in love with him for doing so. Roger became "HER MAN" -- a man with a heart AND a backbone. And he, also glowing, relished in her ADMIRATION of him because of it.

They were so cute together. I loved their story ("WHAT A NEAT GUY!" I always thought when I would remember them over the next 35-years). Chivalry works, fellas! Try it! Even if in less dramatic circumstances, a woman will NEVER forget the times you *STOOD UP* FOR HER. ... And on the converse, she will always remember (with much pain) the times you DIDN'T.

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BG responds to comments:

Sadly, I noticed some readers still did not GET "the point." (Praise God for Connie, Victoria, Al!) And John, true about modern society since the 1970s, but "doing the right thing" has never been popular; there have always been risks since humankind began. For starters, I'm sure Roger got loudly Boo'd by the rest of the rowdy crowd in that bar when he escorted her out of there.

If the Illuminati has messed up men & women so badly (though I still say it has more to do with ignorant parenting than anything, as that sets the stage first & foremost), why don't the men & women of the USA work TOGETHER as couples to "break off the (Illuminati) shackles" instead of dismissing the majority of the opposite sex as a lost cause?

I was disappointed in Marcos from Brazil's comment, whose articles I have always enjoyed. He makes some HUGE erroneous "ass-u-mptions":

•That the girl was a "slut" just because she screwed up once?
•That he took the "drunk slut" to HIS home (maybe he took her to her OWN apt., making sure she got there safely);
•That she only cared about his money/job (huh?! he was not some rich exec) &/or they became a couple just to appease her "boredom"?
•That she would again "flash her breasts" to someone else due to his possible future loss of job or her so-called boredom? What?!
•That Roger was WEAK? Are you joking? Just the opposite is true. He had the strongest backbone out of hundreds of other men in that bar, a backbone generated out of COMPASSION & EMPATHY.
•That she did not respect him? Are you kidding me? He was her literal knight in shining armor!
•That women only like alpha males? (Ok, sure, you see all of us running after Jeff Rense & Aloysius Fozdyke, right? Lol).

I'm not here to argue, but "for the 1000th time," men (like MFB), obviously don't have a clue what women want in their heart of hearts. We can "lead the horse" (men) to "the water" (of wisdom) but we "cannot force them to drink."

(I'd be curious to know how old Marcos is. His attitude is very narrow, constricted, arrogant, & shows a huge lack of wisdom & compassion.)

And fyi, when Sherry first told me what she had done (disrobed), I was shocked ("YOU DID WHAT??") as that was not something I ever saw or heard of out there in ski town. There was plenty of drunken debauchery but people did not disrobe in the bars, neither men nor women. All these years later I'd guess she MAY have been abused as a child as child sex abuse or other early abuse can have two opposite effects: It can cause some women to become strippers (or other exhibitionist behaviors), or it can cause them to go in the opposite extreme of self-protectiveness. Either extreme is hugely detrimental & praise God for men with enough wisdom & empathy (& educating themselves on the subject) to help heal a woman through it until balance is restored. I've seen/read some beautiful stories over the past 20 years of men who have done exactly that.

That is basically what Roger meant when he said he could not understand what would make a young lady "act out" in such a manner, but he had to DO something about it & find out. And she LOVED him for it (as would I!)
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Postby kai1275 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:03 pm

I know NONE of you guys agree with this article I just posted above. Like I said, consider the biases of sources of stories you find.
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