And she cares for me like I'm Jesus. Clips my nails for me, toe-nails too. She brought a wash rag with us on a fairy ride to an island and kept washing the sweat off my face the whole trip. Must have done it 40 times before the day was up.
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agree hard to find a quality girl there. most guys haven't been with their girl an extended living situation. when you live with these girls or in a long relationship you realize most act and talk the same like robots and most are dumb and lame users. after awhile its getting tiring and to the point where the p***y isn't worth the cost and time and aggravation to go there.
Unbelievable information, you are amazing guys!
Can I have a clarification about how to avoid 'drama' mentioned in the above paragraph?
I know a guy who is over 70 and married to a Pinay in her late 20's and he is by no means wealthy (probably the opposite) - and bear in mind he's had previous relationships with Filipina's so he's not naive. According to him, his wife prefers older guys because they are less likely to cheat than younger ones. I've met her too and I have no reason to doubt her intentions. Seems the type to want security in love and loyalty, not money.
Why do western men die before their western wives? Because they want to!
I am glad to read that there are women who do not care about age but only for good manners and the heart of man. These things are almost forgotten in western world. Thanks God it does exists such place on earth!
Mentor, I happen to agree with you on this issue. The idea that there are significant numbers of attractive younger Filipinas that desire much older men offers hope to many of us guys who are aged 36 and above who either been divorced or never been married.
LOL let me rephrase for you, at the cost of sounding insolent...
There are significant numbers of poor, uneducated Filipinas who would have no chance of supporting themselves, their kid(s) (if single moms) and their families, unless they found suitable suitors who can instantly turn their lives around and make them financially stable, even able to earn a salary abroad and remit part of it to their loved ones. The dream is called a foreigner and, at that stage, it does not really matter if said foreigner is 30, 40 or 60. Decent looking or ugly, fit or morbidly obese. They would love anyone who is capable to commit to changing their lives and those of their families.
Of course, younger men are naturally more prone to the call of nature, that is, to give in to the temptation of trying out different girls before committing, or after "committing", or even instead of committing! These men are obviously a riskier proposition to these ladies' dream of having exclusive access to the men's ability to support them. That is why, in these cases, older men end up being the better option: more financially stable, less demands in terms of sex, sweeter dads and all-round family members. What's not to like?
Make no mistake guys. These are the kinds of girls who explicitly look for older (40+) men. I am one of these men and I have been in Davao for a time that I believe sufficient to understand the nature of the beast. I am in no illusion or delusion anymore: these are the hard facts.
It is still possible to bag a cutie who is not explicitly looking for money, which means she (or her family) is implicitly looking for stability and the catch will be more subtle, probably acceptable by most men. Nonetheless, there is always a catch, and it's only a matter of time (or those suspension of belief goggles inadvertently dropping) before you guys get to see it. Not seeing it equates to not wanting to see it.
My current gf is 24 and fair skinned, undeniably pretty, she won a couple of pageants and was chased by lots of local barangay boys. She says she loves me to bits and she always keeps in touch via Viber despite me being busy, she makes cute references about me on her FB posts. She tries her best to be the kind of committed gf she thinks I am dreaming of.
So where's the catch? She knows (and her mom & pop know) that she will never be able to do anything with her life. She told me, with the mix of candor and nonchalance that only a Filipino can muster (and master), that her parents have been trying to marry her up because she has no job and no plans to have one.
Whether she really loves me for who I am and not for what I can bring to the table, whether she likes me physically, whether there's real chemistry or she's just going through the motions, it's anyone's guess. I bet what I am experiencing would be classified as "love" by 95% of the Western adult foreigners like me, so I just have to follow everyone's advice, suck up and shut up.
Unfortunately, I seem to have lost my naivety for good and it's impossible to be back to la-la land. I will end up letting her go in a few days and perhaps close myself into a more dignified form of solitude. Focus on my work, start a diet and hit the gym a bit more seriously, do some martial arts, maybe. Try to invest in myself, rather than in the illusion/delusion that the girl of my dreams is just round the corner and it's only my fault if I can't see her, or turn that corner. I will try to do exactly what I would have done had I stayed in London, or migrated to Singapore: make some decent money and hope that success and an open wallet might surrogate youth, like so many million stories we read everyday.
The main shiny fact remains that, in order to look for a quality young woman on the field, instead of online, I had to give up the main reason I perhaps stood a chance of finding her: my UK domicile and a decent job that would have had us covered, and then some. I wanted a bit more gold and ended up killing the goose.
My 2 cents...
@pd: I often get ioi's from high-quality women in age 18-25 in the usa, and I'm in my late 50's, nor am I unusual. By high-quality I mean women who have already started their own successful businesses, college-educated, good-looking, slim, etc. In case you forgot, a lot of guys age 18-25 are immature and sexually incompetent (I sure was at that age) and as a consequence many high-quality women that age look for older men, but they aren't ready to settle down, and men over age 50 are perfect since such a relationship is guaranteed to not last too long, just long enough for the girl to get the experience she wants before marrying someone her own age, or perhaps older though not 40 years older. I can't take advantage of these ioi's for many reasons, some practical (I travel constantly) some internal (I don't know what I want so I hold back) but other men do take advantage of them, I know that from observation. Also, two of my male cousins married good-looking educated American women (one a successful lawyer later politician, other a nurse with advanced certifications which means suprisingly good money in the modern sickcare industrial complex) 20 years younger than them. Don't discount the attractiveness of older men entirely. And that's in the USA. In the Philippines, older men are still more desirable. Some older men, I should qualify. You're just doing it wrong.
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Sounds like a euphemism for "somebody who will exchange the most money for the least sex". A good deal for any woman in their late 20s who have to have sex with a 70 years old (with all due respect to 70 years old who look like Sean Connery).
This is the second post where you mention this story, so I need to ask you more specifically: did you hook up with an attractive and accomplished 18-25 years old girl who explicitly told you that she was looking for a mature man as a learning stepping stone before they committed to a guy her age? That sounds like everybody dream, almost thought porn. Are those IOIs (indications of interest, I presume) of the "come over here as I need you to show me a good time for a few weeks before I marry up with Johnny the Mama's Boy" type?
I don't know the situation in the US, although everything I have ever read or listened to points me to the opposite conclusion as what you are experiencing. As for the Philippines, I can guarantee you that no girl in the Philippines in that age range, especially with no kids, a job and a reputation, would want to have sex with a 50 years old as a better, more pleasant experience than a "sexually incompetent" boy in his 20s. If they are not liberated, they would go straight to the best local boy their status and beauty can procure them. They would be engaged by 25. If they're more metropolitan and liberated and they do have an itch down there, they could hook up with one of the many fit & handsome Pinoy sex machines around, and be satisfied at a moment's notice. Again, in all those cases, discretion would be key.
LOL I am probably doing it wrong. Maybe I am just plain unattractive and nobody ever had the grace to tell me. Or maybe you and your cousins have the stately, mature beauty of Giorgio Armani, Sean Connery or George Clooney and believe every other 40-to-50 years old man is as lucky. If that's the case for you, good for you I am happy!
The only mature Filipinos who do have girlfriends in their mid 20s have them as, well, mistresses, not gfs. They have to cover them with attention and gifts to have half a chance to maybe get sex once a week.
I am sorry if I sound unnecessarily sarcastic, I mean no evil. It's just that what you're saying doesn't even begin to register in my experiential memory...not in the UK, home to some of the richest men on Earth, and not even in the Philippines.
One of these cousins is short and very fat, but good-looking face, full head of hair and very charismatic. The other is tall, bald, 30 lbs overweight but great personality. Both are exceptionally intellgent and have advanced degrees. They are not unusual. Top 10% men in both the USA and UK routinely marry quality women 20 younger and have been doing so for centuries. Not just top 1% or too .1% like trump, top 10% is sufficient.
As for me, I don't know exactly what these ioi's mean since I didn't follow up on them. Girls rubbing their crotch against my leg while dancing, that sort of thing. In case it isn't obvious, I'm something of a freak in so many ways, and you shouldn't take my experiences as a guide to anything. So forget about me for now.
Instead, lets talk about other men my current age. Back when I was big in salsa dancing, there were always these older guys (mid 50's) in the clubs with much younger women (18-25), new hottie each month, smooching each other and other pdas. It's just so well known that young women are attracted to older men for the same reason I was attracted to cougars when I was young. Not ready to settle down, want apurely sexual relationship with someone who knows something about sex, want to avoid falling too deeply in love, just want to like the older person rather than love them, etc. Money is NOT the motivation, though the younger person does usually expect the older person to have a nice car and apartment, etc, unlike the broke guys/girls their own age.
Now if Davaos is very sexually conservative, then older man younger woman affairs will be done discreetly. Girls will look for guys they can trust not to put their photos on places like ha, and you probably give off the vibe of not being that sort of guy given how you violate this rule. A gentlemen doesnt talk about his conquests, except in a vague manner about thing that happened long ago and/ or far away so the woman can't be identified.
Another thing: lol at young sex machine. Sex is not that simple. There's such a thing as gourmet sex and it takes many years to understand it. Girls vaguely know there is something missing in sex with young guys. A rock solid hard on is not that important, a dildo is even harder. Sex is mostly between the ears, didn't you ever hear that expression? What youre doing wrong is failing to offer young girl what they can't get from young guys. Maybe you just don't know yourself. I had to be initiated by older women myself. I learned nothing from women my own age.