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In my experience, Asia is an awful place to date women

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Postby AnonymousAmerican » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:52 am

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Repatriate wrote:
AnonymousAmerican wrote:Turkish women are some of the most underrated women out there. very feminine and so dam beautiful, and they make such great food.

There's a reason why Turkish men all flock to other countries to get laid. Plus they have a violent and jealous culture which has extremely chauvinistic attitudes towards foreigners dating their women. Some turkish women may be beautiful but it's not worth all the hassles dating into that sort of culture.


Having grown up around turks,yes turkish women are the best.total package.stunning beauty,great food,loyal wives.not all are muslims,many are alevis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi and are open to non muslims and non turks.thats also not true.I knew(fat) black guys that converted to islam in our social circle,and my turkish friends got turkish wives for them.I have dutch friends married to turkish women,they all converted to islam,though.these guys were typical nerds.they got hot turkish wives wich their turkish MALE friends got for them.no hypergamy.if you go for Alevi girls its very possible to marry a turkish woman.turkish,syrian,georgian girls easily are the most beautifull women in the world and have the total package.my friends mother wanted to find me a turkish wife,but I was too young at the time.she used to say:''Ill be sure to get you a Nice ottoman girl(osmanli kiz)''.seriousely if you get to know them theyll find you a wife.


+1000 for that post. guys here on the forum just want easy girls for sex when Turkish girls are meant to be serious gfs/wives, which is what I look for.
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Postby Repatriate » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:11 am

LA_ed wrote: The most financially demanding woman I was with in Asia was 41 and I was 32 at the time. She had a dumpy body, dry loose p***y, and was way over the hill and yet her financial demands were higher than any woman I ever dated and she even dicked around on me.

Why in god's name would you waste time with a creature like this to begin with? Don't tell me there weren't numerous warning flags before she even got to the point of implementing her scheme.
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Postby mguy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:20 pm

I'm late 20s, my girl in Manila is 21.

In Manila I will not pass 25 EVER and I have consulted my local friends.
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Postby Adama » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:07 am

LA_ed wrote:I have no idea why some of you guys are bringing up bar girls. I never dated a bar girl nor did I imply I ever did. I'm not dumb.



theprimebait wrote:
''They dont maintain or get better. They only get angrier, more jaded, fatter, and pissed off from the lack of attention compared to what they used to get.'''''


Their standards also increase.in the past the guy just had to be a hot jock or whatever,hed invite her over for sex and theyd order a pizza.unemployed.doesnt matter.he has no life.doesnt matter.this scenario goes on for years.when shes older she demands he has a nice job,spends money on her,has a car,house blah blah and also status ON TOP OF he has to be hot.their demands actually increase with age.

younger girls always have low standards.they just want to have fun,for the most part.they are oke with a date at your house playing Xbox and making out.I must LOL at guys who claim cougars are easier.

NOT.LOL


Girls are really only like that in high school and college. You really can't date 16 to 22 year old girls forever or even for that long. As you said before, women date guys from their own social circle. High school and college aged girls generally only hang out with other high school and college aged people. Once you hit your mid 20s your days of dating those girls are over unless you make it big and wanna be a sugar daddy.

The least financially demanding woman I was with during my time in Asia was also the youngest, 22, and I was 25 at the time. The most financially demanding woman I was with in Asia was 41 and I was 32 at the time. She had a dumpy body, dry loose p***y, and was way over the hill and yet her financial demands were higher than any woman I ever dated and she even dicked around on me.


I've done that before too, gone for the older woman. The woman was 29 when I was 24. Of course she looked more like she was 39 due to her chain smoking. She was loose, not very attractive, bitchy, cheating on me, etc. I guess I was only with her cause I had low self esteem and I was desperate.

Now that I am older, I realize now that there is no reason for me to put up with a woman who has nothing to offer but bitchiness. I also ignored several red flags: She wouldnt allow me to visit her apartment. I never got to meet her parents. She was often too busy to see me.

I wont ever do that again. And forget going with a woman who's older than I am.

You can date younger in other cultures. Most would agree on that, especially if you look younger than your age.

I know of men on planet-love who married women who are 20 years younger than they are.
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Re: In my experience, Asia is an awful place to date women

Postby Taco » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:17 am

LA_ed wrote:I've lived in Asia for 9 years now. I've lived in Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, Korea, and China, so I speak as someone who has a lot of experience. Before I go over my experiences in each country I'm gonna tell you some universal truths about Asian women. Keep in mind that I am a tall and decent looking white guy.

Number 1, Asian women SUCK in bed. It isn't because of lack of experience, but because they simply don't even try. They don't put in any effort or show any enthusiasm when it comes to sex. Every woman I dated in Asia that let me bang her was a dead bed. Forget about things like cowgirl, if you beg them they might get on top of you for about 10 seconds before "getting tired" and stopping. I've had girls stop in the middle of sex just to reply to a text! Never once did any of them initiate sex with me.

Asian women don't approach either. You have to put in a tremendous amount of effort here just to make anything happen. Asian women have a very high flake out rate, higher than American women. Some of them might go on a few dates with you and seem interested but then suddenly disappear on you without a trace. They often do this without giving a reason why, they just stop answering your calls and texts.

Compared to American women, Asian women are a lot more materialistic. They expect their man to pay for everything and will often expect them to financially support family members as well. Most of the women I dated here were a serious drain on my wallet.

Don't expect to find monogamy here in Asia either. Out of the 6 women I dated, at least 4 of them cheated on me. I'm only confident that one of them didn't cheat.

Another thing Asian women suck at is conversation. Don't expect to have any remotely deep conversations with any women here. Even ones that speak good English suck at conversation and if you learn the language you'll find out that they suck at having meaningful conversation in their native language! I was only able to have deep conversations with one woman I dated here, the rest sucked as far as conversation, and pretty much everything else, went.

Asian women are also generally selfish and completely unable to consider anyone's feelings but their own. Most of them also seem to have a seriously inflated sense of self-worth and huge entitlement complexes.

Most Asian women are not into one night stands so if that's what you're expecting, this is the wrong continent for that. Stick to girls at the club in America for that.

Japan- This is the first country I went to. I was 24 years old when I first got there. I was there for a total of 3 years and I only dated one woman there. It took a year and a half to find her and I had to endure a lot of rejections and flakes to find her. She was the best woman I ever dated in Asia though. We had great conversations and she didn't even expect me to be her sugar daddy. She would probably be considered "ugly" by most standards but I honestly didn't mind her looks. We were together for about 8 months and she ended up dumping me because her parents did not approve of her dating a foreigner. :cry: Even though we broke up over 6 years ago I still think about her everyday. I daydream about what could have been if it were not for her racist parents. I guess it is because she was the last decent woman I ever dated. Japan is probably the best country to teach English though, if you are able to get a job there. The pay is pretty good and you can live a pretty comfortable life without having to sacrifice first world amenities.

Korea- Only lived here for a year but that was about all I could take. I did not even get a hug or a kiss from a woman here. I went on a few dates that didn't go anywhere, that was it. The guys I knew with Korean girlfriends seemed to be in relationships where all of their spare cash went to her and she had all the power. That's usually how relationships play out everywhere in Asia, but this is especially true of Korean women. Koreans tend to be very racist and often openly so. Even ethnic Koreans from other countries who go there complain about their xenophobia. If you ignore the women, the people in general, and their crappy culture, it isn't a bad country to teach English since the pay is pretty good and you don't have to sacrifice too many amenities you are used to as a westerner. Though even though I was saving up lots of money, a year was all I could take, and very few expats stay there for more than 2 years.

the Philippines- I did 2 separate stints here that were roughly 6 months each. One in Manila, one in Cebu. This place does NOT live up to the hype at all. I have no idea why you guys hype up Filipinas so much, they suck as much as any other Asian women. I had no luck with the ladies the first time I went, which was in Manila. During my second stint I dated one girl in Cebu who really drained my bank account. I was planning on taking a full year off but she had me spending money so rapidly I was completely emptied out, and we were only together for a couple months. There really isn't anything good about the place. Crappy food, crappy women, and it is still truly 3rd world in every aspect. It's almost impossible to find a job there. Even just to visit it sucks.

Thailand- During my 2 years here I dated 2 women, and both of them cheated on me. One I caught in the act, the other I had more than enough evidence of. They were two faced bitches who did nothing but spend my money. It the kind of country that you go to for a couple months to chill out but not somewhere you would want to live and work. The pay is pretty low, enough to live a decent lifestyle there but not enough to save up much.

China- I've been here for almost 2 years. One year in Guilin and one in Beijing. I dated two women here and they are easily the two worst human beings I have ever been in a relationship with. They lied all the time, cheated on me, used me for money, and were abusive. Both of them seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable to shout at me in public over nothing. Big time sense of entitlement and generally selfish. Even though neither of them were pretty or even decent looking, they seemed to have egos so big they could be seen from outer space. Chinese women are infamous for their materialism and stuck up attitudes. They expect their man to buy a house and a car for them, and nearly all of them cheat. They're tied with Korean women for the worst women of Asia, probably the worst women on the planet. Loud people, crappy food, smog, materialistic culture, I regret ever coming here. I'm going home soon and I really can't wait.

If I could do it all over again I would have just spent a year traveling around Asia after working in Japan and then moved back to America. I guess I only stayed in Asia as long as I did as a form of escapism from the real world. Now I'm faced with having to start a career at 33 and with a fairly useless degree (Asian studies) and in an economy that is far worse than when I first went to Asia.


Most guys find the sexiest, hooker like chick they can find and then they wonder why it never works out. Its obvious the Asian women your dating don't like you.

The best women in Asia are from the Southern Philippines and even there you need to be very careful. My wife is Filipina and I picked her out of about 1500 to 2000 women that contacted me online and never had a problem because I used a very selective screening process.

I have found nothing to indicate this statement is generalizable.
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Postby Adama » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:37 am

That comment reminds me much more of American women (although I've never been to Asia). I remember asking one woman for cowgirl and she said no. Women in Latin America seem to like cowgirl though. I'd say he ought to move on to another continent.
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Postby Taco » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:24 am

Posts by myself and other forum members make it clear that Asian women have a very keen interest in sex and different sex positions. However, they will respond differently to different men. Some men better at satisfying their emotional needs and treating them with respect which is often all that is needed to bring out the "animal within". Writing them cheesy love letters in the form of emails and texts is what works the best for me. Romance novels are basically porn for women so if your in need of some inspiration(what to say), that's where you should be looking.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:26 pm

Repatriate wrote:
germanguy wrote:Agree. And this is exactly the reason why most foreigners fail terribly when trying to get an Asian wife/gf. Unfortunately this is also the reason Asian girls have such a bad reputation. Stupid foreigners ruin it by doing stupid things...Unfortunately afterwards they blame it on everybody but themselves. Buy a house and car for a bargirl and see what happens next...Of course she is going to dump you and you lost all your cash on that sweet hooker from Pattaya that promised to love you long time. I dont understand why people still are that gullible.

Absolutely. Men who date pros are just fools. I feel that a lot of western men are blinded by asian culture and asian stereotypes. Even hardened whores in Thailand can act very sweet and caring. In western countries women tend to be more extroverted in their personality and show their true colors without much prompting. If a western woman is a whore they tend to act and look like whores. If they are golddiggers they unapologetically display golddigger behavior. In Asia the cultural tells are obvious to the locals but to foreign men all they see is a sweet asian girl who is "different" than the others even when they know she's a whore or a party girl. It's baffling.


A girl that has dated an foreigner before would be a 100% no-go for me. It´s one of the biggest red flags possible...

Avoid any girl that is:

- living in a tourist area
- has had foreign boyfriends before
- speaks good english without reasonable explanation
- a bargirl or a former bargirl
- not having a job (unless from a rich family)
- hanging out at bars, going to clubs
- drinking, smoking, taking drugs
- having tattoos
- known to be promiscious


I agree with this list but even if a girl is relatively well off if she doesn't have any type of real work to me that shows low ambition and possible low moral character.

I'll add to that list, this is more Thailand specific but it can apply anywhere just substitute specific details.

If a girl has been abroad for a very long time ie. America or Australia then you really need to watch out too. They change a LOT when abroad because when your average asian girl goes to those countries they are put on a pedestal and have tons of moronic western men hitting on them. Some of them develop a complex about it when they get home. Some still retain their culture like the girl #3 I dated for a year. However the ones who do change usually become really nasty women who aren't totally westernized but still picked up all the negative western female behavioral traits.

A good sign when you're in a relationship with an asian girl is how willing she is to mention you to her close friends and family. Then the next step is how willing she wants you to meet her close friends and family.

Her friends are important as well. Does she have category #1 types in her social circle even if your girl is not like that? If so..expect changes in her behavior. They will whisper shit in her ear and give her terrible life advice and she will act on it eventually. I find a lot of asian girls to be very impressionable in this sense with their in group conformism.

If her friends are all sweet and good natured then you're likely good to go.

Another good indicator is the university she went to. In Thailand where a woman went to school is a pretty good indicator of her lifestyle and personality.

An example for Bangkok, Thailand.

-Chulalongkorn (best public university in thailand) Probably middle to upper class. Slightly snooty. Possibly high maintenance.

-Thammassat (good poli sci/humanities orientated school) Probably middle to upper class. More liberal and open minded in general.

-Bangkok U. Average middle class girl. Above average academics or intelligence but not likely to speak much english.

-ABAC (private international college) Most likely an underachiever and party girl.

-Rakhamhaeng (no entrance exam required u.) Likely a hoe. :lol:

There are other reads you can get from the school they went to and i'm sure every asian country has their university "tells" you can discern information from.

Frugality test. On the first and subsequent dates does she make a real unprompted attempt at paying her share? I'm not talking about half-hearted bullshit but actually pulling money out when it's time for the bill.

Does she seem overly obsessed with big brand names only or is she also cool with buying clothing from random kiosks at places like Pratunam as long as it looks good? Every girl loves Coach but does she insist on ONLY buying the best shit always? This sounds like a stupid flag but if a girl has a thing about only just wearing high class shit to show off she's most likely very materialistic deep down even if she doesn't appear to be in other ways. I guess the exception here is if she's truly wealthy and can splash out for whatever she wants but still..she can be wealthy and want to use you too.

Always examine facebook and vacation pics too.

If you have her e-mail it doesn't hurt to do a google search just to see what kind of hits you get. You'd be surprised sometimes. :wink:


This thread is so full of garbage I don't know where to begin.

LA Ed - Posted once on this topic and is nowhere to be seen.

All I can say about your post is you're as Beta as they come. Not one ounce of Alpha in your bones and I usually refrain from using these terms.

Sex with Asian women might be dead because you do not have a clue how to get them going. If you're allowing them to text during sex you are 1) BETA and 2) don't have them to the point where they only care about getting laid.

It's been my experience that Asian women are horny as hell and if you are patient with them most are game for anything and take pride in pleasing their man.

The women are "spending your money" because you allow them to do so. They drain your bank account because you allow this to happen. Period.

The women cheat on you because you're 1) choosing the wrong type of women and 2) not giving them what they need. Maybe they need a pounding sexually, perhaps they need someone who gives a shit about them and fills their emotional needs, whatever. But you're not fulfilling their needs.

Adama - my circle of friends and acquaintances is fairly large here and all of the Americans I know are married to non-pros. Actually, it doesn't really matter where the men are from, none that I know of are married to former hos. Neither do any of them think it's perfectly natural to go with a woman with a past.

Maybe I came to Asia before the start of Anglo men being told they're worthless and better off dead, but when I decided to come here my self-esteem was probably the highest ever in my life. I had a cute girlfriend, I was making more money than ever before, and I was proud of this. I looked at coming to Asia as a challenge in which I would not fail, and as a method of living a different lifestyle. So I'm not sure your statement is completely accurate.

Not sure who said to date someone your own age but...rubbish. In Asia and other parts of the world you can easily date a younger woman. I'm 50 with a 36-year-old and I've been with her for 15 years. Although there were some maturity issues in the very beginning, she grew up and now the age difference is perfect. If I were single now, I'd be dating women between 25-35, with no children, and an established career. I don't want an 18-year-old but I certainly don't want a 50-year-old chick. And I'm an American.

As far as the university girls go, I've had girls from Thammasat, ABAC, and Ramkhamhaeng. None were whores. I slept with the one from Thammasat for a couple of weeks just after she graduated. She was extremely intelligent, very cute, and a killer body. The only reason I knew she went to Thammasat was she showed me her graduation photos and an award she had won. She moved to Australia and I later found out she had an Australian boyfriend. C'est la vie.
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Postby Repatriate » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:39 pm

I'm not sure why you quoted my post and who you're referring to as "beta" in your response especially since most of your post seems to be replying to the OP.

FYI, Ramkhamhaeng has a rep of being a place where a lot of "ladies of the night" go because of the no entry requirements. The rest of the students have poor academic backgrounds or are just poor in general. There's nothing wrong with it per se but it's kind of a joke.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:48 pm

Repatriate wrote:I'm not sure why you quoted my post and who you're referring to as "beta" in your response especially since most of your post seems to be replying to the OP.

FYI, Ramkhamhaeng has a rep of being a place where a lot of "ladies of the night" go because of the no entry requirements. The rest of the students have poor academic backgrounds or are just poor in general. There's nothing wrong with it per se but it's kind of a joke.


The Beta comment was directed at the OP. He's as Beta as they come.

Repatriate - I live in Bangkok, remember? I understand there are no entry requirements to Ramkhamhaeng. I also know from living in the Ramkhamhaeng for ten years area that despite what reputation the university may have, many, many women who go there are definitely not working girls. My wife's niece goes there now. She's definitely not a ho nor does she come from a poor family. She works two jobs to put herself through school. I tend to look at girls like this as opposed to bar girls who tend to be lazy and undisciplined. The entire Thai school system is a mess and perhaps if the Thai government were more concerned with figuring out how to improve it, those who are poor would have a better chance of getting into "better" universities.
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Postby celery2010 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:28 pm

theprimebait wrote:
Falcon wrote:Thanks, finally a great post about how East Asia isn't a total dating paradise. Xiongmao said that dating in Asia is a lot of hard work, and not a total piece of cake as some would like it to be. The Philippines has been way overrated, while Mexico would have been nearly completely ignored on this forum if it weren't for me and AmericanInMexico.

For me, Mexico has in fact been much, much easier to pick up women than in either China or Thailand. In about half of the towns I'd go to in Mexico, I would have women who wanted to be my novia (gf) or even esposa (wife). Sometimes even a girl's family members (brothers, aunts, fathers, etc.) would try to hook me up with her as well. My compitas (buddies) from Veracruz still call me "cuñado" (brother-in-law) since they're still trying to get me to marry their sister, not some other girl from Guatemala or Thailand! :P

Asian women don't approach either. You have to put in a tremendous amount of effort here just to make anything happen.


Especially with urban NE Asian women, which Rock and I have discussed.
Latinas are much much better in terms of personality then asian women.very affectionate and clingy,don't expect much,just the basics.in terms of looks they easily outshine asian women,aswell.Im so glad and thankfull for my mexican(100% spanish ancestry though)Jailbait GF.best thing that happened to me.

I'm glad it went well for you in mexico,I hope to travel there one day !Im very interested in zapotec culture .

but yeah,Asian women are easily the worst women .the actors and models aren't representative of the average asian female.I've never seen an asian female with curves.


It sounds like you haven't spent time all across Asia nor have extensive experience in Asia. There are cute, sweet girls in Asia as well as curvy ones.

In actuality, when you look at Latin American countries, it's not like all the women look like curvy supermodels. A good majority are heavily native/indio and about as attractive as Asian women, on average, but there is a larger seperation-- more attractive mestiza and white women and the higher numbers of darker, shorter women.

I wrote this in another post, it is like judging Mexico by the illegal immigrants who come to America. Asian American/ Foreign Asian women =/ (does not equal) Asian women. They are different, unfashionable and their personalities are different.
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Re: In my experience, Asia is an awful place to date women

Postby celery2010 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:42 pm

LA_ed wrote:I've lived in Asia for 9 years now. I've lived in Japan, Thailand, the Philippines, Korea, and China, so I speak as someone who has a lot of experience. Before I go over my experiences in each country I'm gonna tell you some universal truths about Asian women. Keep in mind that I am a tall and decent looking white guy.

Number 1, Asian women SUCK in bed. It isn't because of lack of experience, but because they simply don't even try. They don't put in any effort or show any enthusiasm when it comes to sex. Every woman I dated in Asia that let me bang her was a dead bed. Forget about things like cowgirl, if you beg them they might get on top of you for about 10 seconds before "getting tired" and stopping. I've had girls stop in the middle of sex just to reply to a text! Never once did any of them initiate sex with me.

Asian women don't approach either. You have to put in a tremendous amount of effort here just to make anything happen. Asian women have a very high flake out rate, higher than American women. Some of them might go on a few dates with you and seem interested but then suddenly disappear on you without a trace. They often do this without giving a reason why, they just stop answering your calls and texts.

Compared to American women, Asian women are a lot more materialistic. They expect their man to pay for everything and will often expect them to financially support family members as well. Most of the women I dated here were a serious drain on my wallet.

Don't expect to find monogamy here in Asia either. Out of the 6 women I dated, at least 4 of them cheated on me. I'm only confident that one of them didn't cheat.

Another thing Asian women suck at is conversation. Don't expect to have any remotely deep conversations with any women here. Even ones that speak good English suck at conversation and if you learn the language you'll find out that they suck at having meaningful conversation in their native language! I was only able to have deep conversations with one woman I dated here, the rest sucked as far as conversation, and pretty much everything else, went.

Asian women are also generally selfish and completely unable to consider anyone's feelings but their own. Most of them also seem to have a seriously inflated sense of self-worth and huge entitlement complexes.

Most Asian women are not into one night stands so if that's what you're expecting, this is the wrong continent for that. Stick to girls at the club in America for that.

Japan- This is the first country I went to. I was 24 years old when I first got there. I was there for a total of 3 years and I only dated one woman there. It took a year and a half to find her and I had to endure a lot of rejections and flakes to find her. She was the best woman I ever dated in Asia though. We had great conversations and she didn't even expect me to be her sugar daddy. She would probably be considered "ugly" by most standards but I honestly didn't mind her looks. We were together for about 8 months and she ended up dumping me because her parents did not approve of her dating a foreigner. :cry: Even though we broke up over 6 years ago I still think about her everyday. I daydream about what could have been if it were not for her racist parents. I guess it is because she was the last decent woman I ever dated. Japan is probably the best country to teach English though, if you are able to get a job there. The pay is pretty good and you can live a pretty comfortable life without having to sacrifice first world amenities.

Korea- Only lived here for a year but that was about all I could take. I did not even get a hug or a kiss from a woman here. I went on a few dates that didn't go anywhere, that was it. The guys I knew with Korean girlfriends seemed to be in relationships where all of their spare cash went to her and she had all the power. That's usually how relationships play out everywhere in Asia, but this is especially true of Korean women. Koreans tend to be very racist and often openly so. Even ethnic Koreans from other countries who go there complain about their xenophobia. If you ignore the women, the people in general, and their crappy culture, it isn't a bad country to teach English since the pay is pretty good and you don't have to sacrifice too many amenities you are used to as a westerner. Though even though I was saving up lots of money, a year was all I could take, and very few expats stay there for more than 2 years.

the Philippines- I did 2 separate stints here that were roughly 6 months each. One in Manila, one in Cebu. This place does NOT live up to the hype at all. I have no idea why you guys hype up Filipinas so much, they suck as much as any other Asian women. I had no luck with the ladies the first time I went, which was in Manila. During my second stint I dated one girl in Cebu who really drained my bank account. I was planning on taking a full year off but she had me spending money so rapidly I was completely emptied out, and we were only together for a couple months. There really isn't anything good about the place. Crappy food, crappy women, and it is still truly 3rd world in every aspect. It's almost impossible to find a job there. Even just to visit it sucks.

Thailand- During my 2 years here I dated 2 women, and both of them cheated on me. One I caught in the act, the other I had more than enough evidence of. They were two faced bitches who did nothing but spend my money. It the kind of country that you go to for a couple months to chill out but not somewhere you would want to live and work. The pay is pretty low, enough to live a decent lifestyle there but not enough to save up much.

China- I've been here for almost 2 years. One year in Guilin and one in Beijing. I dated two women here and they are easily the two worst human beings I have ever been in a relationship with. They lied all the time, cheated on me, used me for money, and were abusive. Both of them seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable to shout at me in public over nothing. Big time sense of entitlement and generally selfish. Even though neither of them were pretty or even decent looking, they seemed to have egos so big they could be seen from outer space. Chinese women are infamous for their materialism and stuck up attitudes. They expect their man to buy a house and a car for them, and nearly all of them cheat. They're tied with Korean women for the worst women of Asia, probably the worst women on the planet. Loud people, crappy food, smog, materialistic culture, I regret ever coming here. I'm going home soon and I really can't wait.

If I could do it all over again I would have just spent a year traveling around Asia after working in Japan and then moved back to America. I guess I only stayed in Asia as long as I did as a form of escapism from the real world. Now I'm faced with having to start a career at 33 and with a fairly useless degree (Asian studies) and in an economy that is far worse than when I first went to Asia.



It's clear that you don't understand how to spend time in these countries to meet women and that you don't understand relationships with women. That you went to so many widely varied countries and still had the exact same hateful results in every single country-- says that you put little to no preparation or thought into what you do.

First of all, in every single country, you spent time in the capital or largest cities. Secondly, you never invested time in trying to get to know these cultures/countries further.

There a ton of great women in China and the Phillipines if you are willing to look. But you need to stay out of the capital (Beijing and Manila), unless you are a man of high stature. Did you learn Mandarin and seek girls a wide variety of girls in a more of the beaten path location? Do you have an interest in Asian culture? Girls can sense these things Did you try to contact people who are successful like Xiongmao?

When i was in Thailand, i searched for girls in smaller towns in the North. They almost never have contact with foreigners and are eager to meet them. Another way to meet girls is to travel. By constantly changing locations, hotels, restaurants, you come across more people. I remember when i first arrived in China, in Beijing. It was NOT easy to meet people there. But that's the case in any huge world city.

And seriously, the PI is one of the easiest and best places to find a caring, loving girl who will take care of you. But you have to avoid bargirls, foreigner groupies and rich big city girls. It's the small town girls who rarely meet foreigners you want to meet.

The last thing is that after this happened to you so many times, you should have tried to seek help or meet other people, which is laughably easy as a foreigner/expat in Asia. It's also obvious that perhaps Asia and you may not be a good fit or that you were not shown the right way to do things.
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Postby xiongmao » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:54 am

Rock's right, I should find a place I like and stay there.

I was doing OK in Guangzhou until I went mad. Unfortunately none of the girls I wanted to see again actually lived there. So I need to do some soul searching and find a place that I can stick around in for at least a year and won't go mad in.

Still, I think I have done the right thing by checking out other Asian countries.

Thailand has excellent food and now I am of an age that I'm starting to value food and comfort over women. Maybe Winston's got to this stage as well.

I don't know if there are any good women in Thailand - it's proving hard to find them in Bangkok at any rate.

Malaysia looks another good place to find Chinese ladies. However, it could prove hard to break into their social group. I do have the contacts here, but I think I would find it too boring to live here.

I guess I need to try the Phillies, but I'd worry about not being able to find good food.
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Postby celery2010 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:36 pm

i will add that asian women aren't for everybody, not is Asian culture for everyone. Even as an Asian, i will admit that they are actually not my first preference too!

However, wanted to make it clear that Asian women in Asia are completely different from foreign born/based Asians.
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Postby kai1275 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:05 pm

Well said AIB, Taco, and Celery.
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