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“I was a God in The Philippinesâ€￾ – No You Weren't Here's Why

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Postby Rock » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:33 pm

Winston wrote:Mguy,
I agree with your points. But when Will N Dowd said that he was a God in the Philippines, it was figurative. He felt like a God there, and was treated like one. Or at least a rock star. It's all relative. When you are treated like shit in the US, anything better is so refreshing that you worship it.

Bao,
Not many Taiwanese/Chinese and Filipina couples. Maybe in the past though, since there are many Chinese Filipinos. But Chinese usually look down on Filipinos and see them as maids and servants, not for marriage.

Filipinas are easy to get along with. Very easy going and nonjudgmental, but very simple and not good for intelligent conversation.

I'm sure you can find a good lady. But most girls you date there will be poor and will need you to pay for everything.

No they don't care that much about age differences.

It all depends on what you want. No one can tell you what's best for you. Only you know that.

Personally, I'd get on QQ and start meeting Chinese girls. You can also meet them for free on DateinAsia.


Winston, I don't think he has anything personal against guys like Will N. Dowd (or maybe he does). It's more about piggybacking on Will's sensational sounding title to attract some attention to his fledgling start-up blog / Y-tube channel. He's positioned himself in a tight niche (Philippines vs. abroad, minority guys vs. all western dudes, and heavy use of PU jargon and principles which makes it all seem very Roosh like). He's also very late to the game compared to you. So it's gonna be quite a challenge for him to achieve real traction.

If you ever come back to Phils, try to spend time meeting professional class urban filipinos. I think you will find many of them to be fun-loving and easygoing but at the same time able to hold their own in intelligent conversation whether in English or Tagalog, not as anal and serious as the folks back in your ancestral homeland. I remember you used to loudly proclaim that Filippinos don't even know what a vegan or vegetarian is as if it were a plain fact! That erroneous belief of yours speaks volumes about how narrow your circles must have been.
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Re: “I was a God in The Philippinesâ€￾ – No You Weren’t Here’s

Postby Rock » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:01 pm

Hero wrote:
mguy wrote:- 95% of Filipinas in the dating websites are either poor, have kids, ugly, or some weird problem. This is immutable now in my opinion.


That's not such a bad ratio, IMO. If just 5% of Filipinas are quality women, then that just means that you have to date 20 of them before you find a good one. But it's no problem at all finding 20 women to date over there. As for the women being poor, what's wrong with that? That just means they'll love you all the more for having money to spend on them :D


Yes, I was thinking the same thing. If it were really 5%, that would be a freakin gold mine given the absolute numbers of Filipinas online. If only it were so, sigh. Even 1% would be fantastic. But don't believe even that, way too optimistic.

It's really more like searching for needles in a haystack. I'm talking 1 out of many hundreds/thousands. Fortunately, the online filters available on some sites do much of this work for you. And Facebook plus cam chat, Skype, etc can take it a lot further. If you really learn to use the computer well, you can get super leverage. By the time you invest in a face-to-face, you can have a pretty good idea of who you will be meeting.

Your assumption that "poor equals loving you all the more for having money to spend on them" is deeply naive. You really need to travel more. Financial desperation will only act to contaminate any potential feeling a girl could have for you. Mguy is right when he says you should not consider such girls for relationships other than perhaps no-strings attached P4P.

However, even the barrios have exceptional girls. I've seen it in various third world countries around the world, the poor girl who is somehow intellectual, well-spoken, educated, not-motivated by money, and generally giving and classy. I suspect it's often the case of someone who has an very high IQ and exceptional genes relative to her peer group and sometimes even relative to family members. These are the types who will mostly likely rise out of their surroundings one way or another. And remember, being a poor girl is not the same as being a ho. Majority of hos may be from poor background but many poor girls (in Phils. at least) are gonna be strongly against compromising for money that way.

But bottom line is, don't let others (even us) tell you who you should and should-not date. Go somewhere long-term, figure the scene out for yourself, and follow your heart and passion while remaining mindful. Use both sides of your brain to avoid doing ridiculously stupid things you will later regret. If you decide you wanna go for middle aged maids, more power to you. Let the elitists think whatever they want. They don't pay your bills unless maybe you are involved in certain businesses where you need to maintain a certain image. You wanna date ladyboys? Phils. can be great for that too. Don't pay any mind to the moralists who try to force you into their way of thinking.
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Postby Enticer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:47 pm

Good thoughts. But, my main comment now is for ROCK. Wow....what a pretty girl in your avatar. Do tell!!! Who is she and where from?
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Postby starchild5 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:26 pm

Filipinas/Filipinos are dynamic ...Just waiting for the right opportunity to shine ...

Just watch this video of a masa/ghetto type surroundings of this kid and then shining on worlds stage on Ellen Degenrous show

Even American Commented his command over english is as good as any American in America...Just be prepared to be blown away with his singing talent

Aldrich Talonding and James Bucong guest on Ellen DeGenerous - Dance with my father

This was true with Charice also...Now she is a pop sensation..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B35hLviOj14
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Postby starchild5 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:34 pm

mguy wrote:
- The path of most reward: you stay in Manila, find a supporting gig, and a quality chick will soon follow.[/i]



Wow..Very well said....That's my plan....got work from home job now, just saving now and in few months hopefully I will be in Manila for a long long time :wink: :arrow:
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Postby mguy » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:58 am

In the end you are what you think will make you happier abroad. I'm out of this space.
"So never refuse an invitation, never resist the unfamiliar, never fail to be polite and never outstay the welcome. Just keep your mind open and suck in the experience. And if it hurts, you know what? It's probably worth it."

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end-game of mguy

Postby mguy » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:17 am

The end-game

I would post a picture of my girl here, but that would make me feel disrespect for her.

That's why this venture is now 50-50. I am content and do not want to add more to my life in this direction, especially in relation to bedding females.

Self-improvement: hell yes. Quest for happiness: hell to f yes.

If my work takes one guy away from the bar-scene girls then all the better.

Truth is the whole venture feels somewhat disrespectful. I am going to be taking a different turn in this. I still have my go pro and my students are going to be on break.

See you all later.
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:53 am

I was on dateinasia for months and found only a short list of girls who were somewhat attractive on CAM not pictures (big difference usually) that i think weren't total prudes or annoying skank bitches or scammers. even then many probably would have been too reserved or boring for my tastes.

now i know why many guys just go to the bars cause its hard finding a girl who really enjoys sex who is attractive that isn't as scammer or hoe nevermind the other aspects like intelligence or chemistry or common interests just finding someone who is hot and loves sex here who isn't a scammer is tough. the girl im with i thought would but when we met in person i realized she was just a dumb asexual girl now im stuck with her cause my alternatives mightnot be better for other reasons. no wonder so many foreigners mass date around here cause most of the girls here are fairly marginal.
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Postby Enticer » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:48 am

I believe there is something to the class system and sex with Filipina...

Here is a crude scale:

1. Lower class - poor - loose with sex and will use sex to show value
2. Middle class - not poor but not in the rich sector - less likely to have sex before marriage. Would prefer not
3. Upper class - Still less likely not to have sex before marriage....and def will not use sex to show value

Filipina's are taught early on..."Take care of your man's sex needs or someone else will"...

I told the story of my buddy who was stationed in the Philippines in the early 1970s, in the US Navy. He had a cottage on the beach he rented for 30.00 a month. At the local bar were two servers. They were not hookers. They offered to be his maid in exchange for free rent. They came to live with him. He was treated like a king. They were cousins. They were 28 and 20. The older one was grooming the younger girl to marry my buddy. They would BOTH shower with him, bathe him and have 3sums. One would be cooking for him, while the other having sex with him. The older one taught her young cousin how to f**k and suck a man proper. At one point there was a 3rd who came to live there while the older one worked a 2nd job. They had no problem sharing but it was obvious which one was in line to marry him. Often times, they would make love to him...then bring him a beer or food afterwards. While he ate..they'd rub his feet or back.

Indeed....like a king!!!

He came home and married a loud mouth puerto rican woman.....what a dumb ass....

Just today he said he has such fond memories of that time...and if he wasnt married and bogged down with business, he'd go back in a heart beat....
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:38 am

Enticer wrote:I believe there is something to the class system and sex with Filipina...

Here is a crude scale:

1. Lower class - poor - loose with sex and will use sex to show value
2. Middle class - not poor but not in the rich sector - less likely to have sex before marriage. Would prefer not
3. Upper class - Still less likely not to have sex before marriage....and def will not use sex to show value

Filipina's are taught early on..."Take care of your man's sex needs or someone else will"...

I told the story of my buddy who was stationed in the Philippines in the early 1970s, in the US Navy. He had a cottage on the beach he rented for 30.00 a month. At the local bar were two servers. They were not hookers. They offered to be his maid in exchange for free rent. They came to live with him. He was treated like a king. They were cousins. They were 28 and 20. The older one was grooming the younger girl to marry my buddy. They would BOTH shower with him, bathe him and have 3sums. One would be cooking for him, while the other having sex with him. The older one taught her young cousin how to f**k and suck a man proper. At one point there was a 3rd who came to live there while the older one worked a 2nd job. They had no problem sharing but it was obvious which one was in line to marry him. Often times, they would make love to him...then bring him a beer or food afterwards. While he ate..they'd rub his feet or back.

Indeed....like a king!!!

He came home and married a loud mouth puerto rican woman.....what a dumb a**....

Just today he said he has such fond memories of that time...and if he wasnt married and bogged down with business, he'd go back in a heart beat....


those girls are hoes especially since they are working in a bar. they dont have to carry a health card to be a hoe. that is a crazy story though but these types of girls dont make girlfriends. just fun. I know i tried to make a bargirl my girlfriend for 1.5 years i f***ed her over 1000 times over 9 month period we were apart sometimes so 1.5 years total and she was like a porn star in sex and attitude (partly due to my training). but it gets old after awhile cause you realize she has zero worth and is so easy you are nothing but a weekly salary and she will f**k anyone when your head turns lol
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Postby Enticer » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:59 pm

Keep in mind that was 40yrs ago. He confirmed 100% that they werent f***ing patrons...were only waitresses. All his navy guys went to that bar...

They lived with him 24/7 and one was his GF. The older one, I suspect had a BF but still f***ed him a lot. In reading up on this...the class system barometer seems to be a good tell...
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Postby newlifeinphilippines » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:02 am

Enticer wrote:Keep in mind that was 40yrs ago. He confirmed 100% that they werent f***ing patrons...were only waitresses. All his navy guys went to that bar...

They lived with him 24/7 and one was his GF. The older one, I suspect had a BF but still f***ed him a lot. In reading up on this...the class system barometer seems to be a good tell...


doesn't mean anything if they haven't done it YET their actions prove they were HOES anyways normal girls dont act like that they dont have to barfine or work the streets to be a hoe. It just means they are too proud to have the official job title lol. Also maybe they didn't go with the other customers because they were still shy and new to the job at first. my barhoe started off as a waitress with no health card in a girly bar and didn't go with customers supposedly according to her in the beginning but she still wound up barfining herself out awhile very nervously into it even though not allowed and quickly moved to fulltime hoe after her stint with an american boyfriend didn't work out before she ever met me.
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Postby mguy » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:56 am

I'm tempted to launch a book, "stop f***ing my cleaning lady" but I'm oscilatting between how much time I have to put into that.

The story is that I registered my cleaning lady to one of those websites, guided her to explore the behind the scene. It was a fun exercise. The only hard part was explaining to her that she needs to put-out in first date in a random condo in makati.
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Postby Taco » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:10 pm

I think you can find a sincere Filipina that is loyal and will not screw you around if you want. However, very few guys want this type of woman except for me. The reason most guys are tolerant of cheating, scamming Filipinas is because their players themselves.
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Postby mguy » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:14 pm

Enticer wrote:I believe there is something to the class system and sex with Filipina...

Here is a crude scale:

1. Lower class - poor - loose with sex and will use sex to show value
2. Middle class - not poor but not in the rich sector - less likely to have sex before marriage. Would prefer not
3. Upper class - Still less likely not to have sex before marriage....and def will not use sex to show value

Filipina's are taught early on..."Take care of your man's sex needs or someone else will"...



Here's a trick: you can tell a lot of a girl by what she's wearing in a conservative nation. It tells a lot about her, even down to the fabric and the cut of her dress.

Your strata rankings are correct.

Upper-class is absolutely a hard nut-cracker, almost reaching impossibility, to crack. Keep in mind the men in the upperstrata are dominant and carry fighting egos and are richer than most Americans. She is like a caged bird here. She is to fulfill a certain societal obligation.

The middle class are the best bet for most men in this forum looking to land a quality girl. It starts at call-centering and above. Typically these types are not in websites, if they are they have nothing to lose. Bangability on day approach is a reality if she has a wild streak.

The poor which the majority is easy as cake. Of course, it has a yucky factor to it, but who cares right? p***y is p***y according to some guys here. The problem really comes when they become PRO's, suddenly they have money giving the illusion of wealth, but still retain the bar-girl mentality and demeanor.

I think it serves everyone to at least go for middle-class. The best bet really is prolonged stay. You have to invest in the system to gain the quality. This is the payment they require, that you are invested in the culture and country.
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