Join John Adams, world renowned Intl Matchmaker, Thurs nights 8:30 EST for Live Webcasts with FREE Prizes!
And check out Five Reasons why you should attend a FREE Live AFA Seminar! See locations and details.


Scam free! Check out Christian Filipina - Meet Asian women with Christian values! Members screened.
Exclusive book offer! 75% off! How to Meet, Date and Marry Your Filipina Wife



View Active Topics       Latest 100 Topics       View Your Posts       FAQ Topics       Switch to Mobile


My Philippines strategy - please critique

Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to the Asian countries - China, The Philippines, Thailand, etc.

Moderators: jamesbond, fschmidt

My Philippines strategy - please critique

Postby kevinsp » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:29 pm

I went on Filipino cupid recently. With a simple profile and a decent picture, I was soon deluged with interest. After only 3 days on the site (which is only 10 a month if you buy a year membership), I got over 130 emails. Also, I've had numerous Skype chats with various women. I am 39 and I have chatted with women from age 21 to 34. Because of this massive amount of interest, I have devised a strategy. Please advise and critique.

1. I go online and send out "interests" to women. This doesn't take too long. I just search for women in a certain age range, look at profile pics, and then click the interests icon.
2. Usually, this results in a women showing interest in me, adding me as their favorite, and often sending me email.
3. I go through these women and find the ones I find physically attractive.
4. If I find them attractive, I send them this email-
I am interested in coming to your country in July or August. Before my trip, I want to meet new people. Interested in friendship or possibly romance. Please send me your Skype name so we could chat online sometime. I want to make sure you are a real person and not a scammer.
5. If they don't have Skype, then I usually just don't bother. Anyone can put up fake pics obviously.
6. If they do have Skype, then I try to chat with them on video. Any girl can post a pic from 5 years ago that looks good. However, if they Skype with me I can get a good indication of what they look like now.
7. If they ask for money, start declaring their love for me, or if they claim that they are living in Ghana but from the Philippines (then I get out of the conversation and drop them on Skype). Supposedly, there is some big scam going around involving Ghana.
8. Girls with kids are quickly eliminated. Many of them start complaining about not having enough money.
9. I will soon start to keep a file on all of these women with their name, Skype name, age, location, cell number etc. When you are deluged with interest, this is the only way to keep track of them.
10. As I get closer to an actual trip, I will probably try to set up meetings with them. I would like to aim for a morning date and an evening one.
11. Dating is a numbers game. So, my goal is to get as many as possible interested before I go over there.

Let me know how to improve on this. Also, I am not sure which area of the country to go to. Manilla and Quezon City have the most people, but Cebu seems to be more fun since it is closer to the coast.

Thanks,

Kevin
kevinsp
Freshman Poster
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:16 pm







Postby mguy » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:25 pm

The reason why you get so much interest is bc these girls have been eliminated in the local dating pool. The longer you stay the fuglier the online girls get. Most are also playing the foreigner game, but you already know that.

What is your end game? Marriage?
How much time do you have? 2 weeks?

If you're going for marriage, just sign up for a marriage agency if you're going to blow money anyways. There really is no hack in getting a "gem" unless you go for a chick with a kid (local guy fcked her early but she didn't know better).

If you're here for 2 weeks, go for Cebu. If you're going to stay definitely Manila has the quality and quantity.

There really is no substitute for a long term stay. Playing the numbers game is also played from their side, meaning you are also just a number for them.
"So never refuse an invitation, never resist the unfamiliar, never fail to be polite and never outstay the welcome. Just keep your mind open and suck in the experience. And if it hurts, you know what? It's probably worth it."

Like to read?Third World Hero
Like to see?3WorldHero -- Did he really just do that?

mguy
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 749
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:09 pm

Postby pete98146 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:59 pm

Kevin - shoot me a PM. I have some suggestions for you..

Pete
User avatar
pete98146
Experienced Poster
 
Posts: 1077
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:31 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby davewe » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:01 am

kevinsp wrote:I went on Filipino cupid recently. With a simple profile and a decent picture, I was soon deluged with interest. After only 3 days on the site (which is only 10 a month if you buy a year membership), I got over 130 emails. Also, I've had numerous Skype chats with various women. I am 39 and I have chatted with women from age 21 to 34. Because of this massive amount of interest, I have devised a strategy. Please advise and critique.

1. I go online and send out "interests" to women. This doesn't take too long. I just search for women in a certain age range, look at profile pics, and then click the interests icon.
2. Usually, this results in a women showing interest in me, adding me as their favorite, and often sending me email.
3. I go through these women and find the ones I find physically attractive.
4. If I find them attractive, I send them this email-
I am interested in coming to your country in July or August. Before my trip, I want to meet new people. Interested in friendship or possibly romance. Please send me your Skype name so we could chat online sometime. I want to make sure you are a real person and not a scammer.
5. If they don't have Skype, then I usually just don't bother. Anyone can put up fake pics obviously.
6. If they do have Skype, then I try to chat with them on video. Any girl can post a pic from 5 years ago that looks good. However, if they Skype with me I can get a good indication of what they look like now.
7. If they ask for money, start declaring their love for me, or if they claim that they are living in Ghana but from the Philippines (then I get out of the conversation and drop them on Skype). Supposedly, there is some big scam going around involving Ghana.
8. Girls with kids are quickly eliminated. Many of them start complaining about not having enough money.
9. I will soon start to keep a file on all of these women with their name, Skype name, age, location, cell number etc. When you are deluged with interest, this is the only way to keep track of them.
10. As I get closer to an actual trip, I will probably try to set up meetings with them. I would like to aim for a morning date and an evening one.
11. Dating is a numbers game. So, my goal is to get as many as possible interested before I go over there.

Let me know how to improve on this. Also, I am not sure which area of the country to go to. Manilla and Quezon City have the most people, but Cebu seems to be more fun since it is closer to the coast.

Thanks,

Kevin


Your strategy is a very good start. I would contact Pete who has helped several guys here, me included.

Remember it all depends on your goals. If you're 39 and looking for a potential wife, then the methodology is very different than many guys here. Nothing wrong with any goal, just saying a guy looking for a partner in life is different from one looking for fun and lots of girls.

Again contact Pete or me for tips and war stories.
davewe
Experienced Poster
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:21 am

Postby Dash » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:45 am

130 emails in 3 days? Not sure I believe that.

What is your purpose? Fun or wife hunting?

If it is fun that good strategy. Wife hunting not so much.

Most girls on FC put out way too quick (every girl I met on there I banged the same night/day)

There are some good ones though, ie the ones that dont want to meet alone or dont like going out to club and drinking.

If you are looking for wife your best bet is simply meeting girls at malls and such.

Skype is too time consuming for me. I simply add them to my facebook and I can see how they look most of the time (tagged pics etc)

Id schedule 2 dates a day. For day date get a hotel with a pool. Good excuse to have them over and get them to your room. Then at night have another day (diff girl) and go to a bar or club.
Dash
Freshman Poster
 
Posts: 61
Joined: Sat May 04, 2013 8:39 am

Postby Taco » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:15 am

Dash wrote:130 emails in 3 days? Not sure I believe that.


He's telling the truth, I received over 1000 emails in 10 days, I couldn't even open my inbox.

I met my Filipina wife online a few years ago and I'm still married so I'm proof you can do it. However, I would say at least 95% of the Filipina women you meet will lie to you and screw you around in some way. Its crucial you find a woman you can trust or your screwed before you even get to the Philippines. In my experience young, sexy looking Filipinas are the least trustworthy, as if you didn't know that. If you pick the wrong woman you won't be dating them for very long, some of them are hookers. I even see lots of expats that date and marry Filipinas and its obvious to anyone that there's no love in the relationship. Just be careful!
Taco
Elite Upper Class Poster
 
Posts: 4241
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:30 pm

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:08 am

I also kept a file on ym computer like you did. after 3 months i only had a few dozen potentials and many of them weren't even that good after all that elimination. Its better to find them in person actually but im not good at daygame or else id be in america lol also daygame has alot of flakes, girls with boyfriends, or very shy girls cause keep in mind most filipinas are reserved and boring especially if they aren't searching for a foreigner they are the most naive and youngest. but teh girls online are often uglier, scammers, gold diggers, or sluts or prostitutes so they are t he other extreme.
newlifeinphilippines
Veteran Poster
 
Posts: 2419
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:06 pm

Postby hammanta » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:34 pm

I think there are more quality girls on there than what most people think, but still not a ton. I wouldn't be so quick to call them whores, sluts, etc., either. The same guys that do that (I'm guilty of it to) sweet talk these girls, promise them things, lie, whatever, and as soon as they get a chance ask them up to their room for the close. Some girls are whores, sure, but some just feel pressured, others think that's what will find them a man, others like sex (women are human afterall) while others play the game as well. But come on lets not be hypocritical here. Majority of guys on this site are out for the numbers game as well, even if you are looking for a wife, you still want that quick close, and as soon as you get it, label the girl no good.

Then you get to guys that want a good wife but BAM! the criteria is one who looks like a supermodel, has intelligent conversations, cleans the house and takes care of you like a slave, isn't poor, screws like a pornstar, doesn't act like a westerner, yady yady yady...

Lower your expectations a bit and you might find what you are looking for. I'm not saying settle but some of these honest girls online that might not look that amazing are actually keepers and you will probably be surprised at how attractive in person many are.

For the OP, only suggestion I have is to not go after really young girls and don't give up on single moms unless you definitely don't want kids. I've met some stunners and quality girls but have a hard time finding a guy because they got knocked up when they were 18 and the guy fled.
hammanta
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 609
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:36 pm
Location: East Coast of USA

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby mentor » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:08 am

Nice strategy kevinsp.
I would prefer to invite her to come to my country instead of going to Philippines.
Of course, this would be done only if I end up with a serious girl, after an online connection of one year at least.

I would like to see her in my environment.
Also I do not want to see her family members and all these things.
I will respect her family, but I definetely will not go into such meetings.
I have also heard of some girls that want the guys to go there, and some hide their age, call the police etc. No, no, no. No troubles.

I prefer the girl to come to me, after careful selection and seriousness.
mentor
Freshman Poster
 
Posts: 440
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:52 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby Zambales » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:05 am

mentor wrote:Nice strategy kevinsp.
I would prefer to invite her to come to my country instead of going to Philippines.
Of course, this would be done only if I end up with a serious girl, after an online connection of one year at least.

I would like to see her in my environment.
Also I do not want to see her family members and all these things.
I will respect her family, but I definetely will not go into such meetings.
I have also heard of some girls that want the guys to go there, and some hide their age, call the police etc. No, no, no. No troubles.

I prefer the girl to come to me, after careful selection and seriousness.


Depending on what country you live in, it might not be as straightforward as you think bringing a Filipina over for a visit. Also, you need to meet the family and they would want to meet you - unless they don't care about their daughter. For your own sake getting to know the family is just as important as getting to know the girl.
User avatar
Zambales
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:41 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby Zambales » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:18 am

After my first foray into the unknown I made sure to state clearly on my profile that scammers and one's that asked for money at any point would be wasting their time. Saves a lot of time and effort in the long run.

I actually think these scammers must think all western men are idiots, although to be fair, in reality, half of them are, simply because they get too over excited and lovestruck from day one, leaving the door gaping open.
User avatar
Zambales
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:41 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby mentor » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:26 am

Zambales wrote:
mentor wrote:Nice strategy kevinsp.
I would prefer to invite her to come to my country instead of going to Philippines.
Of course, this would be done only if I end up with a serious girl, after an online connection of one year at least.

I would like to see her in my environment.
Also I do not want to see her family members and all these things.
I will respect her family, but I definetely will not go into such meetings.
I have also heard of some girls that want the guys to go there, and some hide their age, call the police etc. No, no, no. No troubles.

I prefer the girl to come to me, after careful selection and seriousness.


Depending on what country you live in, it might not be as straightforward as you think bringing a Filipina over for a visit. Also, you need to meet the family and they would want to meet you - unless they don't care about their daughter. For your own sake getting to know the family is just as important as getting to know the girl.



I prefer a skype video call with them. Of course I want to know about her family.
But being 'pressed' by similar situations in western world, I will not have 'close' relations with her family. I want, I am totally confident that I deserve, my peace of mind.
If she can't accept it, I will go for the next one.
mentor
Freshman Poster
 
Posts: 440
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:52 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby Zambales » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:58 pm

mentor wrote:
Zambales wrote:
mentor wrote:Nice strategy kevinsp.
I would prefer to invite her to come to my country instead of going to Philippines.
Of course, this would be done only if I end up with a serious girl, after an online connection of one year at least.

I would like to see her in my environment.
Also I do not want to see her family members and all these things.
I will respect her family, but I definetely will not go into such meetings.
I have also heard of some girls that want the guys to go there, and some hide their age, call the police etc. No, no, no. No troubles.

I prefer the girl to come to me, after careful selection and seriousness.


Depending on what country you live in, it might not be as straightforward as you think bringing a Filipina over for a visit. Also, you need to meet the family and they would want to meet you - unless they don't care about their daughter. For your own sake getting to know the family is just as important as getting to know the girl.



I prefer a skype video call with them. Of course I want to know about her family.
But being 'pressed' by similar situations in western world, I will not have 'close' relations with her family. I want, I am totally confident that I deserve, my peace of mind.
If she can't accept it, I will go for the next one.


I can understand where you're coming from and I'd be worried if she didn't fit into my environment too but you've got to look at it from her perspective as well. Would she be comfortable travelling to a foreign country alone to meet someone based on Skype video's? Would her family? No doubt the scammers would jump at the chance although I wouldn't be too sure about the genuine ones.

How long do you intend her visit to last by the way?
User avatar
Zambales
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:41 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby mentor » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:46 am

Zambales, I keep in mind your sayings, I think I will fine tune my tactic depending on the situation and how it will go.

Her visit I would like to exceed the one month.
mentor
Freshman Poster
 
Posts: 440
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:52 pm

Re: My Phillipines strategy- please critique

Postby Zambales » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:56 am

Despite the stories you've heard I wouldn't rule out visiting the Philippines. It's a fantastic country IMO. I know plenty of contacts who have never had anything bad happen to them in the Phils and they've been multiple times. Usually the people who get trouble over there cause it for themselves through lack of respect, common sense and not knowing enough about the place.

Also, it's far more exciting to meet someone thousands of miles away in a beautiful country than a girl who lives three miles across town. With me, my foray over there didn't have a happy ending as such but it's something I certainly don't regret doing.
User avatar
Zambales
Junior Poster
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:41 pm

Next

Return to Asia, China, Philippines, Thailand

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 4 guests