The poster said he was eventually going back to the states so from my personal experience the professional type girls have the best success rate with staying together over the long haul in a Western country. This is why I recommended it. Almost every single dude I know who has brought a non-professional or lower educated girl back to their home Western country has run into issues in their marriage and most of them got divorced. I believe there is a strong risk of the marriage going wrong and falling apart when the girl does not have some kind of skill that she can parlay into some kind of usefulness in the states or other Western country. Cause even if you have kids with them they will slowly go crazy being kept at home and if your not around a lot because of your job or business they will start finding other means to socialize with others. Those others could be feminized women who put alternative thoughts into her head, it could be random dudes always hitting on her when she is out on her own, it could be social media conversations that lead to other things.davewe wrote:Mr S wrote:If you plan on living in PI or other country that's not Western than you can pick whatever kind of girl you want but if you know you are going to go back to a Western country like the states then you should consider a professional girl who can make halfway decent money rather than stay at home or only capable of working retail or as the cleaning lady in some business. Because there are so many nurses many Filipinos just follow the crowd and so you will have a lot of low quality women who got their degree in nursing but it doesn't mean that all nurses are hopeless as a potential GF, you guys are really stupid if you believe that.
Of course there are plenty of nurses out there who will make good gfs or wives. But just as some guys are swayed by looks, many are swayed by the "she's middle class, she's a professional"view. Just don't be fooled into believing that just because a girl has a profession that she is by definition a good person who will make a good wife. She might be but she might just want to get there for the job.
I already stated this rough presumption in the previous post.
But for me there's a bigger issue that each man must decide. That is what kind if life do you want with your girl? Do you need the extra money? Do you need the prestige of having a girl with a professional job? Are you worried that if your wife is home or works a lesser job that it will reflect on you? Are you interested in kids and if so do you want a stay at home wife or one who might put career first? I have no answers (except for myself) but just throwing out the questions you want to ask yourself and your girl long before you decide to have her join you at home.
When a girl from a lower socio-economic background and education suddenly finds her self in the dog eat dog world of the anglosphere they usually end up changing cause they don't have the independent critical thinking skills to handle outside social pressures that are telling her to conform to how the women and people act in said country. I've watched former girls I've dated get married to foreigners and all of them except one now has gotten divorced, and always after they got their permanent residency. I've watched my former expat coworkers and friends get married and bring them back to their home countries and they all have marriage issues now, these are what would be considered normal girls but lower educated or social strata. When I was in the Navy I saw the same thing and when I worked for some veteran offices I saw the same thing with the ones married to Filipinas, their life was a living hell or they were married but basically lived separate lives.
Personally I would not risk bringing back a lower socio-economic Filipina back to the states unless she was properly educated with some kind of useful job skill plus a reeducation that you do upon her as well to make sure she won't change into a monster after living in a Western country for a few years. This is why just talking over the internet or visiting for a few weeks then deciding to get a fiance visa is the biggest mistake a dude can make. I know guys are lonely but a lot of these women are shrewd and will play you like a fiddle and once they have their permanent residency she will drop you and move on to the guy she really wants to be with. There is less of a chance of this happening if she is from a middle class background and has halfway decent education that did not arise from you sending her to school after the fact.
If you are permanently living in PI or another non-Western country then you can get with or marry any kind of socio-economic educated girl cause you know she won't change much only what she gets from you being around her. I've learned my lesson the hard way through personal experience. In the future I would be very careful getting involved with a women that is not from the middle class of which ever country she is from. It's just too difficult to deal with the differences between each others life experiences and expectations. Yes, it can be done but one has to put a lot of time and effort fixing the deficiencies that someone growing up poor has to bring them up to middle class standards and be able to function appropriately in situations where middle class behaviors are needed, which is what one has to have to basically get by in a 1st world country nowadays. But like i said if you never plan to live in your home country again then it doesn't matter if she is educated or came from a poor family as long as she is compatible with you.
This book gives a well researched outline of how to deal with poverty and move and understand the different social stratas of poverty, middle-class and wealth/elite. It details how to communicate with each one and how one would be able to blend in with one or the other which you initially did not belong in:
This is the last discussion post I'm responding to on this board because I'm essentially just a clown and only know how to blow up condoms into balloons and all my PI experiences are just jokes to laugh about and not be taken seriously and have no merit. Cause I really don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just a jokester, that's all.
You all can enjoy meandering your way through PI and figure it out yourself from now on.
This post is not against your remarks davewe, I just felt compelled to respond to you and give some last decent feedback before I cease operations on the Asian board. I'm done dealing with the numerous shleps on this board who only take, take, take but never give much of any useful advice or info themselves other than disparaging remarks and whatnot that cause continuing consternation on this board rather than insightful unification of information.