Sperm is cheap. There is no reason white men can not pleasure Asian females and enrich the Asian gene pool as well as breeding with white females at the appropriate juncture. It is miscegenating white females, particularly those committing bestiality with negros, that should be ashamed of themselves.Contrarian Expatriate wrote:So where is your racial pride now you hypocrite?Cornfed wrote:Sounds idea. Maybe I will try to get a job in Shenzhen next year.
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If your genes are so "enriching," why is it that no woman of any race desires your genes for her children? Could it be that you personally exhude lack of genetic fitness?
By telling us that you might go to China to find a girl, you have basically told on yourself as a sexless, womanless loser who can't get a women to spread her legs for you.
What is pathetic is your sour grapes disposition when you learn of black men who are more genetically fit than you and can lay the women that you could never lay. Lack of sexual access is more your problem than stupidity.
A lot probably do, but Western females are caught up in the cycle of being used as cum dumpsters by dirtbags and then finding some rich sucker to con into marriage for reasons we have gone into a million times on this forum.
I keep having to point out that real people do not see blacks as their peers that they can be jealous of. Suppose the establishment managed to convince females to go around performing oral sex on cattle. Would my expressing revulsion at this indicate that I was jealous of the cattle and saw them as being more successful than me?
This isn't very surprising to me. Most of the NE Asian countries have an obsession with white skin and China has had less time to get used to white foreigners in comparison to the Koreans or Japanese. In about a decade or two the initial novelty may fade and the status of being white should decline a bit in China. Although, I imagine there will always be a sizable market for those who want that kind of guy.
because of social economics and Hollywood...white guys have allot more freedom in the sex deparment globally compared to other race of men. So if a white guy can't make it in USA and has a tough time in Eastern Europe ......Asia or South America is the last resort.
But a part of me still thinks it's over stated. When I was in Korea I kept hearing that it was easy for white guys but I didn't see that. The same for Japan. I visited Japan briefly and yes there are some Japanese girls that go for western guys but it's not the majority.
However, since Zboy1 is in china he has more of a viewpoint than I do.
I think it all comes down to the exotic feel. If a white guy goes to any country with a race predominantly different than his own, you will always have that population of women that has a fetish for something different. Usually they will be less concerned with the guy in the looks department as well. If you can incorporate properly in the culture, preferably live there and not come off as a creep, then you generally have a plus over the local population. I think where white guys run into problems is simply not speaking the language. If you spoke the language fluently or at least well enough, in Japan then I think your pool would open up so much more and it still would be easier to pull girls than the west. I found this out when I was in Central America. I had girls smiling at me in the clubs and malls and asking me to dance but when it came down to conversing in spanish I failed miserably and they lost some interest. Also, in regards to myself, I tend to have more confidence when in other countries because of that exotic feel and thrill of being foreign and am more open to communicating with women. If I was that open in the USA I'd probably have more luck than I do.
So with a basic mixture of living in the country or staying for a while, speaking enough of the language, and being at least average in the looks department, I feel white men can do fairly well in just about any non-Caucasian country, especially in East Asia, Latin America, and Africa. Places where they may fail are countries with very high cultural cohesiveness and religious norms such as India or most Muslim countries.
Back to the original post,
I have also been to both China (and then I did travel around many parts of the country) and S.Korea, and I got to say that I agree very much with what you wrote zboy. Young chinees ppl in som of the cities seems to be, what you called, ethnicly insecure. One girl I dated, that was from Guangzhou, asked me things like: "Do you really think that we all look the same?!". And wen I said that I generally prefered oriental girls wen it comes to looks, she was so surprised! That combined with some real ass kissing of white ppl (a caucasian guy enters a club and all local guys wants to buy him a drink, and offering him a place to crash) is just sad, specially, like already written, how ppl in China tends to treat each other.
Ofc this is waaaay far from all, just to easy to note in major cities.
That in contrast to Korea is very interesting. Just like chanta76 wrote, I had also heard that korean girls went for foreingers... not true, they prefer korean guys, but if he speaks english and/or is brought up abroad thats the key combo, ethnicly/culturally speaking.
I kind of see China the way it was in South Korea in the late 80's and 90's. In other words..China is still developing..and trying to build up it's identity and pride. Way back in the 80's and part of the 90's from what I heard..if your an old ugly white guy..you could of landed a Korean girl that was young (think Philippines) but because South Korea developed and the women in Korea got stronger they demanded more. So they got picky.
I think China is kind of going through that..so if you want to exploit the situation now is the time...until it's toooooo late. Either over mongering (which I hate ) or development which makes everything expensive and therefore the standards will go up.
It's really Hollywood that really helps out white guys in the global market. I mean kpop helps out Korean guys in the other markets. Media plays such a strong role.
This 'White-Worshipping' phenomenon does not extend to South Korea! In fact, South Koreans are very prideful and nationalistic people, unlike the sometimes, inferiority-feeling Chinese. I felt that Korean men, especially, did not have the 'inferiority complex' of Chinese men. And most Korean women will now only date Korean men, whereas in the past, I've been told by foreign friends that it was different in the 60s to early 90s. (This has changed as Chanta has mentioned in his post!)
In Korea, I hardly saw many interracial couples and, even though they exist, I saw some Korean males with other Asian females, and also Korea males with White/Black women--something that you hardly see in China.
The rise of Korea has enabled Koreans to feel proud about their country--and I can see why!: the first time I visited Korea after living in the USA was in 1989--and Korea was still a poor country then. Now, it's so modern, clean and efficient--I can see why so many Asians want to visit and even live in the country. I've been told by my uncle that huge numbers of Chinese are coming into Korea--with many not wanting to leave--to work in the country. Also, there is sizable Russian/Indian and expat population in Korea.
I absolutely hate the fact that in places like India and China, the people are so obsessed with racial castes and having lighter skins...
Asians can be so stupid and racist sometimes...
Everyone's personal experience differs. In my observation, language is a must in E. Europe and Latin America. There's no such thing as living in those countries and not speaking the language. Unless of course you surround yourself with a small number of English speakers who are interested in practicing ESL with you.
In the Oriental countries, language is a tricky thing because of how bigoted and close-minded many of them are and because of their experience with mostly Anglo white people be they tourists or colonials/conquerors.
In the mind of an average Oriental person, a white man cannot speak Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Tagalog, etc. It's an impossibility just like it's impossible for a cat to bark. Also, a white man cannot eat rice and use chopsticks. A white man speaking their language is often seen as a freak.
The spread of English made them even more wary of the white man- they now try to avoid talking to him period lest they be embarrassed by making a mistake in it. So, they sulk and stay away. Many assume an expression of a person in the middle of a severe constipation trying to defecate when they see you. When you ask for directions in the local language, some either run away or answer in broken English. Even if you are a Bulgarian who does not even use the Roman alphabet. To them we're all one race speaking English.
Anyway, what I'm aiming at is that in E/SE Asia it's better NOT to speak/learn the language and then you will get a girl easier/faster. There's a segment of women who are facsinated with foreigners ( read: white people) and who want to have a foreign boyfriend so that they could learn about your culture and practice their English.
When I was in Japan, it was non-Japanese speaking blond white guys who were scoring right and left and the ones who were speaking Japanese and trying to learn about Japan were the ones who were seen as setteru- stale/boring. I was not invited to parties and even once refused a job because I spoke Japanese. Also, in Thailand, one woman told me that my speaking Thai was a disadvantage ( as she wanted to find a real Farang).
I watched in utter horror all those Anglo guys in Asian countries who stepped proudly like peacocks without speaking a word of the local language and who had cute girls on their arms and the natives tip toeing behind them in awe. While I was standing there holding the bag.
Even in the Philippines, you run into people who start disrespecting you because you speak Tagalog and yelling at you and treating you like crap. I was also told by the mother of one girl that she would invite me to their house only if I never let the neighbors know I spoke Tagalog. And they never respected me because of that. Go figure!
However, those porinarz who dated their other daughters and nieces never spoke a word of Tagalog and they were admired and treated with great respect. And then, one went to live in Australia with her Aussie hubby. And the family were so happy about it.
There's a lot of provincialism in those countries as well as complexes plus total idiocy- I don't even know how to describe it.
Otoh, in the Russian speaking world as well as Spanish speaking world- just like in the USA- people expect you to speak the language of the land. Russian and Spanish is spoken by people of every color and ethnicity.
Conclusion- in the Russosphere and the Hispano- sphere, local language opens doors to dating, in Asia- not necessarily and sometimes it closes doors.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
Not sure if I totally agree. I can see where your coming from although I'm not white but from my own observation I notice this about white guys in Asia. There is a segment of the Asian population that kowtows to white people. At the same time there is the segment of Asian people that kowtows to white people but talk trash in front of there face because as you mnetion they assume you don't know the language.
I can't speak for other countries but at least in South Korea if your a white guy that can't speak Korean your only limited to the Korean girls that are white guy groupies. It's good and bad...it's good because they only date white guys but it's bad because if one white slept with her you probably know the other white guy that slept with her. Plus the girls tend to be allot more liberal ...however, if the white guy spoke decent Korean ..he has his doors open to dating the traditional Korean girls that wouldn't have consider ever dating a white guy. In this case it be harder to date but that get a better quality Korean girl.
I imagine this maybe the same throughout Asia. I traveled around Japan and Thailand. Obviously in those countries there is higher rate of mix pairing but from closer observation...it's not that far off from South Korea. What I mean is in Japan the traditional Japanese girl will not consider dating out and this applies to Thailand. It's usually the more liberal minded to some extend western type Asian girl that seek out western guys.
Overall it depends really. The exception with Thailand because of the high sex industry many of the mix pairing I saw there were bar girls with farang so in thier cases it's more of a business arrangement than anything else.
I don't doubt your experience, but I do find it hard to believe in some instances. Sure you will find some outliers but you open up a whole new amount of possibilities when knowing a language. You not only have the girls who are into white guys but you also have the girls who would be willing to date outside their race but figured it would never happen because they are afraid of not communicating. As for the guys studying japanese, maybe they were simply to worried about studying and learning the culture and less into partying. Of course the girls who were into white guys would much rather party than try and teach a language.
As far as the Thai girl, most know here that most thai girls searching strictly for a Foreign husband have very bad intentions. Perhaps she was afraid if her man knew the language she wouldn't have an advantage in situations.
You're experience in the Philippines is an odd one as well. I have many friends all over the philippines and they always try and make me learn tagalog. On my last trip they even told me (in a nice way) that I should learn tagalog because they shouldn't have to speak english in their own country. Even the families I stay with all try a make me learn tagalog or another dialect. If anything I've had people get pissed at me because they didn't understand english and I didn't understand their poor accent.
I simply can't possibly think that knowing a language could hurt you with the local girls. Sure there will be a few who maybe turned off but those few will be replaced by possibly millions of others. Then again it also depends on how you converse with them to.