then i guess i need to dump this girl after i come back cause she is nothing liek you guys describe. if i want to kiss or have sex i have to initiate. otherwise she could do without i used to think it was me being too sexual but i think she is just damaged goods. hope i dont get her pregnant. she does everything i want sexually but she isn't horny or initiates or has the cute personality of my barhoe before so im quite bored of her lolRock wrote:Hmm, let me clarify my opinion on this one. I've said that girls here do not openly flirt with me when I go around and about the way they seem to do with Taco and certain others. But they do seem to be rather affectionate and sexual on average if you date them. My benchmark is not American girls for I have negligible experience with those. Rather, it's Taiwanese and also Chinese, Brazilians, Colombians, and some other non-Anglo girls.newlifeinphilippines wrote:the truth is most girls here are not easy or horny. thats a huge myth that im sick of hearing. Mr. s and winston and me and Rock have al confirmed first hand that there is a broad spectrum with most women falling under normal sexuality and id argue they are even less sexual than american women by far on average. if they are horny or easy its cause often times they just want your money and are acting. women are women everywhere there is nothign special about filipina that suddenly makes them more sexual. sexuality is from birth for the most part. the rest is training but not genuine.Hero wrote:I couldn't continue things because I was going back to school immediately after my trip. So I knew that I couldn't afford to return to the Philippines for several years. One of my dream girls got tired of waiting and married somebody else. As for the other girl, I've lost interest in her due to her age and total lack of conversational skills.newlifeinphilippines wrote:why didn't you close the deal witheither one then as you were going home and continue things?Hero wrote:If I may add my 2 cents worth, make sure you have at least 3 weeks to spend over there. The more time you can spend there, the greater your chances of finding your dream girl. Plus, you don't want to feel pressure to find that girl quickly.
My first trip to the Philippines was for 20 days and it was like paradise. I met two gorgeous young women who were even hornier for me than I was for them. My second trip lasted just 10 days and was much less productive. I didn't even get one kiss. And yes, I did dress and groom myself impeccably and was on my best, most polite behavior.
about the hornier thing, maybe those girls are hard to trust if they are so "horny" cause either they are so horny and experienced and will cheat at any time especially when you go home OR they are acting either of which is a bad sign lol
Yes, I agree with your second point. I did worry that those two girls had a lot more experience with men than they were willing to admit.
its gonna be hard for me to find a girl who really enjoys sex naturally. that is more important for me than her looks but ideally i wont be totally happy unless she is about a 6.8 or so on the looks scale and loves sex. i wont settle for less unless i knock one of these girls up accidentally which could happen lol
Overwhelming majority of the girls I've known here do seem to have a pretty strong sex drive or at least love to make-up heavily, cuddle and pet. The girl I have dated most regularly pushes very hard to have long sessions several times whenever we meet. She consumes it like chocolate. The girls in question are mostly independent financially.
The ironic thing is that when I used to hang out with Winston in Angeles City, many of those bar girls seemed to be the most hung-up about things. It's like they couldn't get their head around being hoes. For them it's a chore and you see the turn down potential customers quite a bit, especially the door girls. Very weird.
I think it's that horny Malay blood as I once explained to Falcon. Many regular Pinays are delightfully affectionate and sexual. It's also great that they all seem to love kissing, so different than many Thai girls.
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This is a classic situation of being stuck in the middle as a short term vacationer. Now that I know your situation a bit better, I would change my advice to you. I wouldn't worry about trying to find a 7+ unless you are seeking a long term relationship that will end in marriage simply because the pretty girls have options and already get mucho attention from guys so what makes you any better than an above average Filipino guy who lives there full time and can shower with attention on a daily basis? What do you have to offer her other than a quick roll in the hay? Unless you are a 7+ yourself and can charm her pants off with raw sex appeal, I think your chances are slim.
So if your goal is to bang 7+ girl, stick with the prettier bar girls. It's much less of a headache in the long run.
From what I've read he is living in the country or has lived for several months before. Not necessarily a short term vacationer. Not to pick on Newlifeinphilippines but I just don't think he really knows what he wants. He's not happy with his current girl but doesn't know how to end it without her being hurt or him being lonely. He wants a ten that will remain faithful, have high sexual desire and willingness to do whatever he wants, with a great interesting personality and a good job. It's good to have standards but he has to realize that sometimes they are unrealistic, especially with him being shy, with low confidence and unwillingness to use alternative forms of interaction other than dating sites.
I didn't mean to come across as a jerk to him, in fact my statement was meant as an across the board statement for any guy who is trying to find love during these 2-3 week trips. It's just plain difficult to have a short term affair with a 7+.
I'll give you a good example. Before I met my wife, she'd be approached by these types of expats while at the mall. Her level of interest in having a two week fling was zero.
So that's why it's best to stick to the pros or be content with the < 7's.
I wasn't stating that you were being a jerk, on the contrary, I thought your advice was good. I was just trying to state that he is, from my understanding, not a short term vacationer but a guy who can live there for a decent stint if he so chose. IMO he is wishy-washy about what he wants and until he comes out of his shell and rethinks his expectations, he won't find happiness no matter how short or long he stays there.
i been accused of wishy washy lol. anyways basically i want a girl who was as sexual and hot and had the personality like my barhoe but someone who isn't as drama and i can trust (liek this current girl) and maybe someone a little more educated and has better conversation skills. I think if the girl was just a little hotter and loved sex a lot more i would be much happier. I prefer a girl aslo whos tays with me and looks after me like these last 2 girls have done. if the girl is really hot and amazing in bed i will overlook that part but she better be amazing lol
i stay for 6 months at a time. i could stay longer or shorter but i stay that long as a plan. and my income is risky so i probably shouldn't travel at all and just save the money. if i was living there without any plan of going home maybe id take it slow and just date around. but like most guys in vacation mode we just want a 24/7 sex slave lol after beign starved in america.
I really think what i want will be hard to find here. if i want a girl who is hot and not a hoe she may not do what i want or take care of me making me wish i had the previous girl. if i get a girl who is very sexual she may cheat on my ass when i get home to america or dump me sooner do to my demanding one way treatment lol. the onyl thing i can think is i just will assume that my relationships only last few months at most while im here if im lucky
anyways comign here every year for 6 months could cost me 35K to 70K beyond what im spending in america i could get 1 or 2 fully loaded new trucks in that money and my online income is risky so im scared maybe to not go anymore. but my parents are getting older and im thinking maybe someday ill be worried for them and not want to leave the country so thats why i sort of been doing it now while they are in good health.
Most filipina girls are not beautiful, but just nice.
For me this is enough.
First priority for me is a gold heart and good attitude, with all the values you could expect from a traditional filipina girl.
Vietnamese ladies look more beautiful, but I prefer a christian one, so I mainly look for Filipinas, even though there are not so beautiful.
Have you been to the Philippines? I just came back from a trip there, and I have to say, I have to disagree. I saw tons of women that were hot, tons that were beautiful (there's a difference), and plenty that were both. I've been to Vietnam before, and yes, lots of good looking women there, but I actually prefer Filipinas. And I've spent much time in China (close to 2 years in country across several trips), and while some people on this board are into Chinese women, again, I find Pinays to be- on average- better looking. Of course, it's all opinion, but I will advise guys to take a good look, and visit if possible, before deciding.
Why you prefer Philippines over Vietnam and China?
More better looking or something else?
1. Different from what some people on this board say, I think Filipinas are, on average, better looking than Chinese women. The time I spent in China was mostly in Beijing and a few cities even further north. There are certainly hot, beautiful women there. In fact, as a percentage there are just as many stunning (9 and 10) women as the Philippines. But I find the Philippines has a greater percentage of good looking- 7 and 8 women. Vietnam is intermediate between China and the Philippines (and I'd say Thailand is between Vietnam and the Philippines).
2. I've concluded the Philippines is a better place to live than China or VN, and that impacts which women I pursued. China is a good place to make money, but lacks basic freedoms, and is a culture obsessed with social control. Also, Filipinos are more polite than Chinese. In fact, Chinese people may be the rudest people in the world.
3. For most westerners, Chinese is an incomprehensible language. It will take many times longer to learn than Cebuano or Tagalog, and the Chinese are particularly intolerant of mispronounciation. Tonal languages are hard, characters are really hard.
4. Filipinos are less racist than Chinese or Vietnamese.
5. I'm a Roman Catholic, and I decided I want a woman that is too. China and VN do have some catholics, but it's small as a percentage. Phils is over 80%, so those are good odds.
From what I read, filipinas are more humble (in contrast with rather arrogant chinese), and it is also very important for me that the majority in Philippines are christians.
I read also that Indonesia and China shows a rapid explosion for Christianity, but it is still low percentage in population.
What about the costs of your trip there?