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OutWest wrote:>>>there are a lot of preconceptions at work. SET YOURSELF APART! If you are really looking for a good girl, be sure at some point to use the words SINCERE and MARRIAGE MINDED.
Thanks for all the advice. Although I'm not really marriage-minded (yet), instead more of an "intermediate" here. Not the huge pump-and-dump fest of WnD/MrS, but not marrying either.
I just think dating several girls and taking 'em places, go visit volcanoes etc. is gotta be doable. I can't think the only options are the two extremes.
I guess i'm a semi-monger; I have to confess I'm the type of guy that after years wasted in the anglo-sphere, now feels the need to "make-up" for it with younger chix. But one thing I wouldn't do is lie by promising marriage etc.
All you are a lot more experienced, so please forgive me if I sound juvenile or don't make sense.
Well, with the millions of girls in the Philippines, you are quite likely to find interesting girls willing to be the "girlfriend for now". That said...I do not know if I have even seen one of those one in a thousand girls settle for that. The smart ones know their worth...
To reveal a bit of my own experience, had I suggested anything temporary about my taking of my father-in-law's daughter, it would have gotten dramatic for both her and myself.
It was a quiet moment when my wife told her father she was moving in with me before a wedding.
She said her dad got really quiet...teary eyed. He asked her.."Its forever I hope." "Yes daddy, it's
forever...". I always treat my father-in-law with a great deal of respect though...
OutWest wrote:>>>there are a lot of preconceptions at work. SET YOURSELF APART! If you are really looking for a good girl, be sure at some point to use the words SINCERE and MARRIAGE MINDED.
Thanks for all the advice. Although I'm not really marriage-minded (yet), instead more of an "intermediate" here. Not the huge pump-and-dump fest of WnD/MrS, but not marrying either.
I just think dating several girls and taking 'em places, go visit volcanoes etc. is gotta be doable. I can't think the only options are the two extremes.
I guess i'm a semi-monger; I have to confess I'm the type of guy that after years wasted in the anglo-sphere, now feels the need to "make-up" for it with younger chix. But one thing I wouldn't do is lie by promising marriage etc.
All you are a lot more experienced, so please forgive me if I sound juvenile or don't make sense.
If you are there an extended amount of time it is very doable, but a short 2 week vacation you will be hardpressed to find a quality, non scammer girl to go with you unless you have connections or a real jewel you have met online. The fact of the matter is that with traveling together implies sex and many girls who jump quickly to sex are not that trust worthy. There is always the possibility and I'm by no means saying it is impossible, but it's better to be realistic than overzealous and wind up disappointed. Like Dave said, most have no interest in being your "Vacation girl."
The extremes are very realistic in nature, however. Foreigners that come to Philippines tend to fall into those two extremes. They are either so amazed at how potentially easy the girls are that they become mongerers or they are amazed at how the women treat them that they fall for the first girl that treats them well. There is very little middle ground for vacationers unless you lie your ass off, which you mentioned that you are not interested in doing.
OutWest wrote:>>>there are a lot of preconceptions at work. SET YOURSELF APART! If you are really looking for a good girl, be sure at some point to use the words SINCERE and MARRIAGE MINDED.
Thanks for all the advice. Although I'm not really marriage-minded (yet), instead more of an "intermediate" here. Not the huge pump-and-dump fest of WnD/MrS, but not marrying either.
I just think dating several girls and taking 'em places, go visit volcanoes etc. is gotta be doable. I can't think the only options are the two extremes.
I guess i'm a semi-monger; I have to confess I'm the type of guy that after years wasted in the anglo-sphere, now feels the need to "make-up" for it with younger chix. But one thing I wouldn't do is lie by promising marriage etc.
All you are a lot more experienced, so please forgive me if I sound juvenile or don't make sense.
Thats the goal of me and most haers here actually. unfortunately your gonna wind up with low hanging fruit usually cause you wont have the paitence or mentality to court a genuine good girl cause your not looking for a wife in your mind and want to sow your wild oats. You can but its the same reason why me and many other foreigners can't or wont cause its too much time too had to get to know, and you have to deal with family, no sex, etc. You do realize if you date a good girl your gonna have to wine and dine or get to know the family and multiple dates without sex and she may not even be good at it? So most ofus go the easier route where we get lots of sex or a vacation girl.
if your not looking for marriage your gonna have a boring trip looking for only the highest quality. Im not joking. You gotta tap into the low hanging fruit to get maximum bang for your buck. I personally avoid bars or freelancers though cause a 2 month trip would cost a 6 month trip if you were using a new girl a day. so better to tap into low hanging fruit off dating sites or cold approaches who give it out at a much cheaper rate and a better gfe experience.
I think i need to sum up things because the topic is kind of a mess and maybe some people misunderstood me.
You can find a good girl here. Although everyones definition is different. My argument was that its not easy and most going for foreigners or who don't currently have a filipino boyfriend are doing it for a reason cause they know a decent filipino guy (good looking or has money) isn't that interested in them ANYWAYS, so they turn to foreigners as their last hail mary.
winston says one thing but his own experience, my own, and most foreigners contradict his happy go lucky attitude. Therefore its not as easy or optimistic as portrayed.
Its easy to get girls in foreign countries if money/visa and not you is their ONLY motivation. However, to get a girl who doesn't care only about your money takes time and dedication especially if your looking for a girl who is hot. You better use day game or start making lots of friends at church etc. These girls are not on dating sites if they are hot and don't care about only your money. Why should they? They dont want only money and they are hot they will have lots of filipino guys after them. Also some of the hot girls have serious mental issues and thats why no filipino guy even wants them. My current live in has a sister who has major attitude and personality problems and thats why she can't find a serious filipino or foreign boyfriend. No foreigner wants a girl with attitude and bitchy. More often the quality women they are in a church or working at store and you gotta get teir attention just like any woman in the world. There are exceptions on the dating site but I haven't found them actually cause they dissapear and aren't serious about meeting foreigners anyways, only the desperate or leftovers actually usually wind up doing so. Some could argue even my own current live-in is one of those exceptions but she is very poor and jobless and i trust her alot though and even when i saw other girl she still loves me and wants to be with me and never demands money. She moved in right away and at the time i thought she was just being hoeish because she didn't know me only on skype but was willing to move in right away. But i realize she is not really that slutty when i met her she is not the type to sleep around or flirt. months later she admitted that wasn't her real family and her parents weren't really in teh picture and she was stuck living there for the last few years. So that would explain why she is with me. Of course now she is making good relationship with her dad though so hopefully that improves. Is she low hanging fruit? Yes technically but i would trust her maybe more than some of these hot educated filipinas who have lots of filipinos after them who are slutty.
newlifeinphilippines wrote:I think i need to sum up things because the topic is kind of a mess and maybe some people misunderstood me.
You can find a good girl here. Although everyones definition is different. My argument was that its not easy and most going for foreigners or who don't currently have a filipino boyfriend are doing it for a reason cause they know a decent filipino guy (good looking or has money) isn't that interested in them ANYWAYS, so they turn to foreigners as their last hail mary.
winston says one thing but his own experience, my own, and most foreigners contradict his happy go lucky attitude. Therefore its not as easy or optimistic as portrayed.
Its easy to get girls in foreign countries if money/visa and not you is their ONLY motivation. However, to get a girl who doesn't care only about your money takes time and dedication especially if your looking for a girl who is hot. You better use day game or start making lots of friends at church etc. These girls are not on dating sites if they are hot and don't care about only your money. Why should they? They dont want only money and they are hot they will have lots of filipino guys after them. Also some of the hot girls have serious mental issues and thats why no filipino guy even wants them. My current live in has a sister who has major attitude and personality problems and thats why she can't find a serious filipino or foreign boyfriend. No foreigner wants a girl with attitude and bitchy. More often the quality women they are in a church or working at store and you gotta get teir attention just like any woman in the world. There are exceptions on the dating site but I haven't found them actually cause they dissapear and aren't serious about meeting foreigners anyways, only the desperate or leftovers actually usually wind up doing so. Some could argue even my own current live-in is one of those exceptions but she is very poor and jobless and i trust her alot though and even when i saw other girl she still loves me and wants to be with me and never demands money. She moved in right away and at the time i thought she was just being hoeish because she didn't know me only on skype but was willing to move in right away. But i realize she is not really that slutty when i met her she is not the type to sleep around or flirt. months later she admitted that wasn't her real family and her parents weren't really in teh picture and she was stuck living there for the last few years. So that would explain why she is with me. Of course now she is making good relationship with her dad though so hopefully that improves. Is she low hanging fruit? Yes technically but i would trust her maybe more than some of these hot educated filipinas who have lots of filipinos after them who are slutty.
Hey, the other day I saw a hot chick working at the JAG store at LAndmark Trinoma mall ground floor across the Globe store. (not the JAG section in Landmark store) She was hot even by my standards and knowing what you like she would probably appeal to you. She had light skin, blonde hair, wearing colored contacts and had a nice figure with boobs too, maybe around 5 ft perhaps. What's nice about those jean stores is that the girl employees have to wear skin tight jeans so you know they have a decent figure and ass/legs. She's the type that's into foreigners I can tell by the way she looks and the way she was trying to get my attention but overtly. You may want to go up there and check her out as she might be a good catch if you can get her contact info. I'm currently not looking but I probably would have gone for her if I was.
Just figured to let you know or anyone else who may be looking for a normal cutie. This was last Monday 7/6/14 so don't wait too long cause I notice sale girls working in stores move around a lot.
Actually the North EDSA malls SM and Landmark are pretty good hunting grounds cause not too many foreigners go there and it's mostly just locals. I personally prefer Trinoma. Most of the girls in the specialty stores are bored and like when a expat goes in makes conversation....
Here's some free useful advice for ya all...Finders, keepers are the first to go for her I guess, ha ha. Let me know if anyone goes for it.
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher, 121-180 A.D.
MrS wrote:Actually the North EDSA malls SM and Landmark are pretty good hunting grounds cause not too many foreigners go there and it's mostly just locals. I personally prefer Trinoma. Most of the girls in the specialty stores are bored and like when a expat goes in makes conversation....
Great tip
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
newlifeinphilippines wrote: I personally prefer Trinoma. Most of the girls in the specialty stores are bored and like when a expat goes in makes conversation....
Very true. Bored Filipina = Instant Girlfriend
Most of the stores hire extra help because labor is so cheap which means half the Filipinas have nothing to do all day. Most of them are very happy if you stop and chat with them. Just ask them if they want a bite to eat after their shift is done, there's a good chance they'll say yes.
newlifeinphilippines wrote:I think i need to sum up things because the topic is kind of a mess and maybe some people misunderstood me.
You can find a good girl here. Although everyones definition is different. My argument was that its not easy and most going for foreigners or who don't currently have a filipino boyfriend are doing it for a reason cause they know a decent filipino guy (good looking or has money) isn't that interested in them ANYWAYS, so they turn to foreigners as their last hail mary.
winston says one thing but his own experience, my own, and most foreigners contradict his happy go lucky attitude. Therefore its not as easy or optimistic as portrayed.
Its easy to get girls in foreign countries if money/visa and not you is their ONLY motivation. However, to get a girl who doesn't care only about your money takes time and dedication especially if your looking for a girl who is hot. You better use day game or start making lots of friends at church etc. These girls are not on dating sites if they are hot and don't care about only your money. Why should they? They dont want only money and they are hot they will have lots of filipino guys after them. Also some of the hot girls have serious mental issues and thats why no filipino guy even wants them. My current live in has a sister who has major attitude and personality problems and thats why she can't find a serious filipino or foreign boyfriend. No foreigner wants a girl with attitude and bitchy. More often the quality women they are in a church or working at store and you gotta get teir attention just like any woman in the world. There are exceptions on the dating site but I haven't found them actually cause they dissapear and aren't serious about meeting foreigners anyways, only the desperate or leftovers actually usually wind up doing so. Some could argue even my own current live-in is one of those exceptions but she is very poor and jobless and i trust her alot though and even when i saw other girl she still loves me and wants to be with me and never demands money. She moved in right away and at the time i thought she was just being hoeish because she didn't know me only on skype but was willing to move in right away. But i realize she is not really that slutty when i met her she is not the type to sleep around or flirt. months later she admitted that wasn't her real family and her parents weren't really in teh picture and she was stuck living there for the last few years. So that would explain why she is with me. Of course now she is making good relationship with her dad though so hopefully that improves. Is she low hanging fruit? Yes technically but i would trust her maybe more than some of these hot educated filipinas who have lots of filipinos after them who are slutty.
Hey, the other day I saw a hot chick working at the JAG store at LAndmark Trinoma mall ground floor across the Globe store. (not the JAG section in Landmark store) She was hot even by my standards and knowing what you like she would probably appeal to you. She had light skin, blonde hair, wearing colored contacts and had a nice figure with breasts too, maybe around 5 ft perhaps. What's nice about those jean stores is that the girl employees have to wear skin tight jeans so you know they have a decent figure and a**/legs. She's the type that's into foreigners I can tell by the way she looks and the way she was trying to get my attention but overtly. You may want to go up there and check her out as she might be a good catch if you can get her contact info. I'm currently not looking but I probably would have gone for her if I was.
Just figured to let you know or anyone else who may be looking for a normal cutie. This was last Monday 7/6/14 so don't wait too long cause I notice sale girls working in stores move around a lot.
Actually the North EDSA malls SM and Landmark are pretty good hunting grounds cause not too many foreigners go there and it's mostly just locals. I personally prefer Trinoma. Most of the girls in the specialty stores are bored and like when a expat goes in makes conversation....
Here's some free useful advice for ya all...Finders, keepers are the first to go for her I guess, ha ha. Let me know if anyone goes for it.
nice tip thanks but im not in manila nor could afford or be willing to spend the money to stay there.
manila is probably a better city suited for my tastes since it has so many hot women to choose form. I know i should settle for more average looking women but i can't. The woman has to have a very good body or face (pick one ) to make her hot overall. I just can't settle for less on a permanent basis since im not looking for a wife anyways. im gona go home in america and jerk off to porn its very hard to find a filipina with big boobs lol so im just gonna enjoy my porn where i get to choose what i want al the time with no drama. Im not sure im gonna come back for awhile but frankly if i do come back it will because im so bored and sex starved in america i can't stand it anymore. but im starting to value porn more again less hassle less drama less money and i get what im looking for
Im probably not gonna come back to philippines for a long while. Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is btter than women. Im starting to onate to the philippine churches that is better than some gold digger or leech who becomes corrupted and lazy. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to porn its cheaper and easier and i get exactly what i want without any drama and no one is hurt in teh process.
newlifeinphilippines wrote: Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is better than women. Im starting to donate to the Philippine churches. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to p**n...
Is this the methodology taught by the church or God himself?
newlifeinphilippines wrote: Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is better than women. Im starting to donate to the Philippine churches. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to p**n...
Is this the methodology taught by the church or God himself?
+1 I'm not necessarily the most religious guy out there but I did grow up in a very religious home. I do recall the passage " it's better to spit thy seed into a belly of a whore than to spit it upon the ground."
Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is better than women. Im starting to donate to the Philippine churches. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to p**n...
Is this the methodology taught by the church or God himself?
+1 I'm not necessarily the most religious guy out there but I did grow up in a very religious home. I do recall the passage " it's better to spit thy seed into a belly of a whore than to spit it upon the ground."
Porn habit is a mistake, it becomes idolatry as banned in the Big Ten.
But the verse Hammanta quotes is not in the Bible.
The OT condemns adultery strongly, and masturbation mildly. It does not condemn fornication with non-virgins at all. I counsel young men simply that fornication with the unworthy is a waste of time, not to be the focus of a man's life.
Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is better than women. Im starting to donate to the Philippine churches. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to p**n...
Is this the methodology taught by the church or God himself?
+1 I'm not necessarily the most religious guy out there but I did grow up in a very religious home. I do recall the passage " it's better to spit thy seed into a belly of a whore than to spit it upon the ground."
p**n habit is a mistake, it becomes idolatry as banned in the Big Ten.
But the verse Hammanta quotes is not in the Bible.
The OT condemns adultery strongly, and masturbation mildly. It does not condemn fornication with non-virgins at all. I counsel young men simply that fornication with the unworthy is a waste of time, not to be the focus of a man's life.
I thought so but I figured I'd quote it for shits and giggles.
newlifeinphilippines wrote: Im finally seeing the light God and spirituality is better than women. Im starting to donate to the Philippine churches. If i have a thirst for women ill just jerk off to p**n...
Is this the methodology taught by the church or God himself?
After all that drama...the net gain in insight is...drum roll...beat your meat!
No surprise here though...figures....
Let me know if anyone goes for it.