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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:22 am

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Ghost wrote:The Philippines just ended up with me getting turned off of the Philippines. (For relationships.) America made me MGTOW...in America. I don't do MGTOW abroad. That doesn't make sense. MGTOW was a response - and NOT the first time in history - to feminism and a misandrist society. If you go abroad to a non-feminist country and be a MGTOW, that's like cutting out your stomach before going to a restaurant.



women are the same everywhere IMO so philippines actually made me a stronger MGTOW for 2 reasons 1) I now have more experience with women so i can live off those memories im not as desperate to create new ones 2) I seen the bad side of women and im not sure if i want to continue seeing more no matter WHERE its at ;)


And the Philippines has some particular issues like no divorce as well. Better have money for an annulment if she turns sour.

I felt the same sort of thing after returning from Asia. It's harder for me to feel sentimental about women anymore, and I have a low number. Part of me wants to go abroad for p4p and sluts and finish it off. Then it wouldn't plague me. The other possibility is go abroad long term and throw myself completely into finding a good wife. This requires working for a greater good against pressure to the contrary and being a good man in a rotten world. I dreamed of the Philippines so much before going there, and after going there twice I realized what a nightmare it was.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:25 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:
Ghost wrote:The Philippines just ended up with me getting turned off of the Philippines. (For relationships.) America made me MGTOW...in America. I don't do MGTOW abroad. That doesn't make sense. MGTOW was a response - and NOT the first time in history - to feminism and a misandrist society. If you go abroad to a non-feminist country and be a MGTOW, that's like cutting out your stomach before going to a restaurant.


I agree. Going MGTOW abroad is completely retarded. Best to just stay at home and be miserable if that's what you want. To each their own. But a smart man realizes that what may work in one country, may not work somewhere else. No every society is the same, and not all women are the same. Whoever thinks that is clearly on the wrong site here. This is not "sit on your a** in your basement and cry.com".


Well, HA is, in practice now, more about staying in your basement and not even trying. That's not shaming language - merely an observation. The deck is stacked severely against young men in the West, yet if you refuse to try, you guarantee failure. Every man is capable of doing something, and that's what many refuse to understand. And beyond that, too many other guys will ask questions as if the internet can really teach you about a foreign country in lieu of going there. They make decisions based on others' opinions, some of whom haven't even traveled.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:29 am

chanta76 wrote:MGTOW ...stands for men going there own way...It could mean anything. It doesn't mean you want to do p4p or get married . It's another way of saying just be selfish and live under your own terms. So I think it has broad meaning and definition. A guy could move to Alaska and live in the wilderness and be happy.

But I think for many posters here..they are women motivated. A big part of the guys that move overseas is because of women ..which I understand. Saying that but even overseas you have to play by the game. I think for some MGTOW you have guys that are just plain selfish...in any society (even overseas) you have to consider other people feelings.


MGTOW is vague on what it really means, which is to say it doesn't mean anything nor does it stand for anything. It's a reaction against feminism, and I doubt many MGTOWs even know that "MGTOW" (the idea, not the name) is actually ancient.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Ghost » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:30 am

MrBlueLight wrote:Nothing wrong with p4p if sex is all you want. But some of us enjoy the process of seduction. For me when dealing with women, the physical pleasure of sex may be the end game, but the psychological pleasure of getting there as a normal girl surrenders herself more and more to you is what makes the process all the more satisfying. :twisted:


So you're a cockroach, worthy of nothing more than being stepped on. Well, you would be if your exploits had actually happened.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:44 am

Ghost wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Ghost wrote:The Philippines just ended up with me getting turned off of the Philippines. (For relationships.) America made me MGTOW...in America. I don't do MGTOW abroad. That doesn't make sense. MGTOW was a response - and NOT the first time in history - to feminism and a misandrist society. If you go abroad to a non-feminist country and be a MGTOW, that's like cutting out your stomach before going to a restaurant.



women are the same everywhere IMO so philippines actually made me a stronger MGTOW for 2 reasons 1) I now have more experience with women so i can live off those memories im not as desperate to create new ones 2) I seen the bad side of women and im not sure if i want to continue seeing more no matter WHERE its at ;)


And the Philippines has some particular issues like no divorce as well. Better have money for an annulment if she turns sour.

I felt the same sort of thing after returning from Asia. It's harder for me to feel sentimental about women anymore, and I have a low number. Part of me wants to go abroad for p4p and sluts and finish it off. Then it wouldn't plague me. The other possibility is go abroad long term and throw myself completely into finding a good wife. This requires working for a greater good against pressure to the contrary and being a good man in a rotten world. I dreamed of the Philippines so much before going there, and after going there twice I realized what a nightmare it was.



Me im not old enough to look for a wife. Also you need to live there. I refuse to bring a wife back. If you have no problem marying a girl in her 20's when your in your 20's or 30's and your living in asia then then its acheivable and you should stop complaining. But the issue i see is when your 40 your wife will be an old maid by then. Secondly you may not want to live in asia. Ill settle down when the time is but blowing through these countries for a few weeks or even a few months is not condusive to either a relationship or a wife unless you like to gamble. Im definitely MGTOW now. I see a girl as only a vacation tourist guide and im starting to learn the value of solitude while im in america. I hate it also but im learning its value.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby MrBlueLight » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:55 am

chanta76 wrote:Mr.Bluelight,

If that's all you care about than why not do that in the states? If it's the chase that turns you on. I mean in the Philippines it's like the easiest country there is to meet a girl for pretty much anyone from all reports. I mean there is more satisfaction if you can nail a girl from a develop country instead of a third country me thinks....

On top of that with mongering it quickens the pace of westernization and spoiling of the girls ...legit guys that seek real relationship will have hard time since there seems to be a growing number of expats that live their lives like Will-Ni-Dodd or Mr.Bluelight.


That is exactly the point against p4p, if it is so easy to get it for free, then why are you paying? In fact, there are countries where hoes cost even less, so why not go there instead? If money if not an issue, then just stay home and bang American hoes. Really, the only two good points about the Philippines are that it's an English speaking country and girls are easy to seduce. It sounds even more pathetic if you are paying girls who are already easy. For me, sex without some kind of psychological bonding is akin to masturbation. I get way more pleasure getting to know a girl in-depth (like her real personality rather than the personality she puts on while on the job) then f***ing her rather than just f***ing her, in that case, I might as well lube up my hand up and jerk off.

For a country like the Philippines that is easy to mass seduce, it is pointless to come here for p4p.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:14 am

MrBlueLight wrote:
chanta76 wrote:Mr.Bluelight,

If that's all you care about than why not do that in the states? If it's the chase that turns you on. I mean in the Philippines it's like the easiest country there is to meet a girl for pretty much anyone from all reports. I mean there is more satisfaction if you can nail a girl from a develop country instead of a third country me thinks....

On top of that with mongering it quickens the pace of westernization and spoiling of the girls ...legit guys that seek real relationship will have hard time since there seems to be a growing number of expats that live their lives like Will-Ni-Dodd or Mr.Bluelight.


That is exactly the point against p4p, if it is so easy to get it for free, then why are you paying? In fact, there are countries where hoes cost even less, so why not go there instead? If money if not an issue, then just stay home and bang American hoes. Really, the only two good points about the Philippines are that it's an English speaking country and girls are easy to seduce. It sounds even more pathetic if you are paying girls who are already easy. For me, sex without some kind of psychological bonding is akin to masturbation. I get way more pleasure getting to know a girl in-depth (like her real personality rather than the personality she puts on while on the job) then f***ing her rather than just f***ing her, in that case, I might as well lube up my hand up and jerk off.

For a country like the Philippines that is easy to mass seduce, it is pointless to come here for p4p.



its pointless if your just gonna bang a new bargirl everyday. Thats why i sort of "fell in love" with my bargirl and turned her into a tourist guide. s he wasn't the first bargirl i had but she was the best and it became a great GFE. I dont get the whole banging a new girl from the bar everyday that gets old REAL fast and its pointless to get on a plane for that. Id like to set up some online dates before i get off the plane next time i travel to any country inasia. Even if its just as a tourist guide capacity that may lead to more.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby tamdrin12 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:01 pm

I don't know about all this MGTOW shit.. I don't want to join any lame ass movements... But, personally, I value and enjoy solitude too much to want to get married or even be in a serious relationship. I found my relationship with my good Taiwanese girl to be ultimately, a source of stress and dissatisfaction even though she was a good girl. Look at the lives or married folks, even if your wife is good, after a few years its just the daily life.. very boring and quite monotonous. I would rather spend my time learning languages, not being tied down, and doing what I want.. when I want. Sure you have to face some loneliness but it is no big deal really and in the end its far better than being in an unhappy marriage. Or being in a marriage where the Asian girl wants you to support her family and buy her uncle who you don't care about a truck or some shit. f**k that!

Unfortunately our mind plays tricks on us to the effect of the grass is always greener on the other side. When you are in a relationship you realize its a drag... when you are alone you may feel lonely and long for companionship. The key is finding a passion which is being this sensual world. Meditation, art, music, reading, writing, helping others etc. Do something to give your life some meaning. I think it will make you happier in the long run. Not only that but it is through those things that you may have a chance to find someone that you *click* with. At least your chances are much better than at a bar or on all these bullshit dating sites these days.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:03 pm

tamdrin12 wrote:I don't know about all this MGTOW shit.. I don't want to join any lame a** movements... But, personally, I value and enjoy solitude too much to want to get married or even be in a serious relationship. I found my relationship with my good Taiwanese girl to be ultimately, a source of stress and dissatisfaction even though she was a good girl. Look at the lives or married folks, even if your wife is good, after a few years its just the daily life.. very boring and quite monotonous. I would rather spend my time learning languages, not being tied down, and doing what I want.. when I want. Sure you have to face some loneliness but it is no big deal really and in the end its far better than being in an unhappy marriage. Or being in a marriage where the Asian girl wants you to support her family and buy her uncle who you don't care about a truck or some shit. f**k that!

Unfortunately our mind plays tricks on us to the effect of the grass is always greener on the other side. When you are in a relationship you realize its a drag... when you are alone you may feel lonely and long for companionship. The key is finding a passion which is being this sensual world. Meditation, art, music, reading, writing, helping others etc. Do something to give your life some meaning. I think it will make you happier in the long run. Not only that but it is through those things that you may have a chance to find someone that you *click* with. At least your chances are much better than at a bar or on all these bullshit dating sites these days.


yes people think they have to have a wife and kids right away to have meaning. there is other things you can do financially or time wise to give meaning.


agree even if the girl is hot it becomes monotnous where you have to get her in the mood or beg for sex or you start fighting over every ltitle issue or they are intellectually inferior so you can't talk about anything important. And then you fantasize about other women for excitement. Oh and then the kids issue if you start having kids then romance is definitely out the window and even mroe aggravation. This dying alone crap is a joke, we all die alone and we are all born alone in this earth we have to be accountable. And yes id rather just travel around for most of my youth and middle age. maybe eventually settle down but for a lot of years id like to experience new places and cultures.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby chanta76 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:58 pm

mr.bluelight,

You said your self . It's easy to seduce in the Philippines...so wheres the fun in the chase? The challenge? MOst guys that go to the Philippines and seek girls are I hate to say are the losers of the worlds. They couldn't make it anywhere else so by default go to the easiest country there is. Look at Winston...it's not all about p4p..not all guys do it.

I be more impress if you did your thing in Europe or South America...but to me I;m not impress at all in the Philippines. Plus your spoiling the place...spoiling it for the legit guys looking for something real..guys like kill the place eventually and there is nothing left.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:56 pm

chanta76 wrote:mr.bluelight,

You said your self . It's easy to seduce in the Philippines...so wheres the fun in the chase? The challenge? MOst guys that go to the Philippines and seek girls are I hate to say are the losers of the worlds. They couldn't make it anywhere else so by default go to the easiest country there is. Look at Winston...it's not all about p4p..not all guys do it.

I be more impress if you did your thing in Europe or South America...but to me I;m not impress at all in the Philippines. Plus your spoiling the place...spoiling it for the legit guys looking for something real..guys like kill the place eventually and there is nothing left.



Thats why im headed to indonesia in the future where sexpats like Will n Dowd and Mr Bluelight cant ruin the place because the stiff visa requirements only allow 60 days then they have to fly their ass out. The problem about phil and thailand to a lesser extent was it was easy for sexpats to just plop down and spend months and years without leaving the country really and going through dozens of girls. So there isn't that many foreigners but each foreigners goes through dozens so you can see why I been saying phil and thailand are overrun and thats why im searching for something better. Too inconvenient for sexpats who want the easiest denominator. Even thailand is now doing that but they still have 1 year tourist visas and its already too popular to change the trend.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby MrBlueLight » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:57 pm

chanta76 wrote:mr.bluelight,

You said your self . It's easy to seduce in the Philippines...so wheres the fun in the chase? The challenge? MOst guys that go to the Philippines and seek girls are I hate to say are the losers of the worlds. They couldn't make it anywhere else so by default go to the easiest country there is. Look at Winston...it's not all about p4p..not all guys do it.

I be more impress if you did your thing in Europe or South America...but to me I;m not impress at all in the Philippines. Plus your spoiling the place...spoiling it for the legit guys looking for something real..guys like kill the place eventually and there is nothing left.


Who says I am looking for a challenge or to impress anyone? PH is good for the sheer quantity of girls that can be easily seduced, which also consequently makes p4p completely pointless. As I've mentioned before, the most pleasurable part of the psychological bonding with girls, and PH allows me to maximize the occurrence of that. And why did you mention Winston? That guy does p4p like nobody's business.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby publicduende » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:31 pm

MrBlueLight wrote:Who says I am looking for a challenge or to impress anyone? PH is good for the sheer quantity of girls that can be easily seduced, which also consequently makes p4p completely pointless. As I've mentioned before, the most pleasurable part of the psychological bonding with girls, and PH allows me to maximize the occurrence of that. And why did you mention Winston? That guy does p4p like nobody's business.


Coincidentally, as in your case, bragging about stuff that you have only done in your mind makes even sex with real girls completely pointless.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby MrBlueLight » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:17 am

lol. If I want really want to make things up, I would tell the stories of me having 4-some, or having girls lined up at my doorsteps to jump on my bone, or banging Pacman's mistress.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby chanta76 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:03 pm

But some of us enjoy the process of seduction. For me when dealing with women, the physical pleasure of sex may be the end game, but the psychological pleasure of getting there as a normal girl surrenders herself more and more to you is what makes the process all the more satisfying. MrBlueLight

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Mr.Bluelight,

In your response it's the chase that thrills you and in your trip report you brag it's not the quantity but the higher quality of girls your getting. So I don;t believe that you came here not caring what others think. I think you do care. You care that you get higher quality girls compared to other expats...

In your writings you have some level bragging rights..I think allot of it has to deal with your age..but still it leaves me confuse.

You claim to be a tall ex-model of Chinese descent...why the Philippines again? You claim it's easy to seduce in mass quantities which contradicts your position in getting quality girls. At the same time you claim you don't care what others think? If that is truly the case why post anything?

My position is simple. The Philippines is last resort country for any guy that can't get a girl in other countries. Even though Winston does use the p4p he also tries to meet regular girls in the Philippines. You have old fat guys getting Philippines girls....which means not much of conquest in getting girls...and that unfortuntaley the Philippines is too easy...

From other reports the girls in the Philippines on the average are not great.....why not Japan? Or Korea? Or some other country.....

Me thinks you can't get the success there....even though it's about seduction and seeing a sweet girl turn nympho. Why not USA? Shoot I know guys here in the USA that have number of girls as f**k buddies....if they can do it why not you?

Unless your just a keybroad jockey....unless your just another average guy beating his ego online.


Why not Europe? There sweet girls there that can turn nympho ...perhaps even allot hotter girls..but wait you can't do it.
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