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Is China a lost cause?

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Ghost
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Re: Is China a lost cause?

Post by Ghost » June 11th, 2015, 7:07 am

China is a lost cause, so please, all of you need to stay out. There's nothing good here, it's a hellhole. So please everyone, stay away, OK?

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Re: Is China a lost cause?

Post by Boxman » June 19th, 2015, 8:27 pm

Well let's hope this doesn't catch on... Image

China's feminists flaunt hairy armpits
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/10/asia/gall ... =obnetwork

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Re: Is China a lost cause?

Post by Ghost » June 20th, 2015, 5:24 am

Before anyone flips out, first of all, hairy armpits have nothing to do with feminism in China. Most Chinese women do not shave. That's part of the culture.

If an AW goes un-shaved, she's making a feminist statement. If a Chinese woman goes un-shaved, she's just a normal Chinese woman.

And a bunch of those feminist have been arrested by the Chinese government. Evil Western forces are trying to seep in, but the Chinese government cracks down on it. They don't just give feminist protesters a slap on the wrist, they do get arrested. Regardless, without the government sponsoring and subsidizing feminism (i.e. like in the Western dystopias) feminism doesn't stand a chance there. And a lot of this is Western propaganda to make us think China is changing and becoming feminist. It's not.

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Re: Is China a lost cause?

Post by momopi » June 20th, 2015, 5:47 pm

Communism was actually a strong advocate for feminism. Example, propaganda poster from 1950's China (prior to introduction of simplified Chinese):

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Translation: "In the past women's position was low, to live her life as a slave. The husband was the boss of the family, it was uncommon to have 3 wives and 4 concubines."

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Translation: "Now women have risen, husband-wife and man-women now speak of equality. Traditional rites and teachings have been smashed, women should now also be the boss."

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Translation: "Learn from the spirit of the red army's long march. Conquer nature and build our motherland."

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Translation: "We are proud of being part of our nation's industrialization."


The suppression of western-inspired liberal ideas (or bourgeois liberalism) is politically dictated and not about feminism. A parallel can be drawn to the suppression of science-fiction in China over the decades, as the communist leadership lumped science fiction with fantasy genera as reactionary (yes, very ironic). We've seen this during the Cultural Revolution (1966–1976) when sci-fi authors were sent to rehabilitation, Anti-Spiritual Pollution Campaign (1983) in which sci-fi authors were condemned for publications contrary to the political and ideological teachings of socialism, and recently in 2011 when the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television published guidelines against television storylines with "fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking".

Consider the Star Trek Universe with near unlimited energy (dilithium crystals) and resources (replicator technology). Almost every material need can be "replicated" without capital or labour. There is really no need for money as poverty and economic inequality simply became irrelevant. It's actually an idealistic socialist paradise, but from CCP perspective it also represents a future where the party and its ideology is rendered obsolete. The CCP can care less about Captain Kirk or hairy armpits, but they do care about ideological threats from the grass roots level. Village protests (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33210165) can be put down with the 1.5 million PAP (People's Armed Police). But a wide-spread ideological revolution that requires the 2.8 million PLA to roll over, will have much bigger consequences.

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