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I watched part of this, bits and pieces. I was wondering, why would an old man want to hire an old, stout woman for a prostitute? You'd think they'd want a younger one. Maybe they can't afford one. Having sex with an old strange woman doesn't sound appealing at all.
I was surprised to hear their estimates that one in five girls had worked in the sex industry. They may be including girls who work in tea rooms who are friendly to the old men who go there and flirt with them, but don't actually do the prostitution side of things. I lived in South Korea for a year in the 1990s, and I saw young women delivering tea and an expat friend who knew the culture explained that men would go to the tea rooms and get attention from young women. It's not outright prostitution, or that was his understanding as I recall. Though I suppose some could sell other services.
When I went by the train station in the town I was living in at the time, a stout middle aged woman started pulling on my arm, saying something in Korea. Someone told me later that she was probably a madam recruiting for a prostitute located somewhere around the train station. I thought she might be recruiting me to sleep with her, and I was thinking, no way. Not only would I not sleep with a prostitute, but why would I want an old prostitute?
My expat friend, a former soldier, said near the base he was at, they would pitch their services in English. "I have pretty woman for you. You first customer."
I haven't been to Korea for a long time, but back then, some students I went out to eat with made a joke about a fellow female student doing the cooking over the Hibachi because she was a woman. She smiled or laughed demurely. I commented on how American women would be offended. Some Korean girls are probably fairly meek and traditional, and if you can get them right out of high school during her first week of college you might be able to get one before she's ever had a girlfriend. They segregate the schools from age seven onward, and good girls and boys don't date until college age. Then they ask older classmates to match them up on blind dates and meet other students until they mutually agree on boyfriends or girlfriends. A lot of them marry their boyfriends or girlfriends. Some don't and get matched up through the matchmaker industry or through relatives, friends, etc. matching them up. Adults who go to matchmakers or get matched through parents may find themselves on a fast track to marriage.
My former army American expat friend over there married a nice-looking Korean girl in her mid-20's. He gave me TMI about their sex life, more than I wanted to hear, especially since I knew her and didn't want to think of all that when I saw her. But he said she told him, "If you want me in the middle of the night, wake me up". He'd have sex with her night after night after chasing her naked around the bedroom. He said he'd like her to chase him occasionally. He wanted to feel wanted. I doubt all Korean girls are like that. They were newly weds, too.
Based on their TV dramas, which are charictatures of real life, usually, I suspect they have some female dominated homes with wimpy husbands and some male-dominated homes with strong men. You can see both in the same drama. In-laws would likely cross the boundaries Americans would expect in a marriage. You'd have to marry the family if you lived near the in-laws, not just the wife. She'd get off well if she married an American and didn't have a Korean mother-in-law to domineer over her. But her family might not accept marriage to a foreigner, since that is a bit controversial there. Or it was. Now, I hear some towns in agricultural areas have lots of Vietnamese women recruited for farmers who couldn't get Korean women to marry them. Back when I was there, they were bringing in poor ethnic Koreans who spoke Korea from China to marry the farmers, but I guess they either married all the interested ones up or they were too affluent to want to marry a South Korean farmer.
Culturally, Korea is tough. People are kind of stiff and uptight. They speak in a code they understand. Like 'let me think about that' means 'no.' They aren't lying. Other Koreans pick up on the cues. They don't like to directly say 'no'.
Why not? Not so different from Japan, there are similarities. Shrinking population, elderly people everywhere.
About looks, well some Japanese women in their 50s are often looking much better than a Western woman, overweight and ugly in her 30s.
Many people 50 to 60+ feel simply said lonely, they don't have a family anymore, often divorced, children moved away, their relatives dead... but they want somebody for talk and even for more, at least for a few hours, sometimes.
We both, my Japanese wife and me, often talk about what to do when one of us will die. As a fact since last year, we do not have any relatives anymore, not in Europe and not in Japan, they are all dead now, our parents are dead too, we both are 60+, our children have their own families.
So what to do if you are 50+ or 60+ and you are totally alone?
I will have a good retirement allowance and my foster daughter is a Filipina. I am welcome there and no financial problems.. but not everybody can do that. Elderly people out of low-income families are often rather poor in Asia if there is no young family member around them willing to help.
Allot of the stuff mr.man said i kind of agree with.
I dont think its 1 out of 5 korean girls worked in the sex industry. I would say its more like 1 out of 20 which is like 5% .
There is under ground industry that is not open to westerns that even i dont know about.
South korea is weird because they dont have porn but lots of korean download illegal porns from other countries or upload hidden cam stuff.
Korea is conservative overall compare to usa regarding sex.
And yes if you marry a korean its like marrying into the family. I should know.
Korean culture is complicated and sometimes suffiocating.
Chanta75, maybe the 1 in 5 counts all the girls in tea rooms who are not prostitutes and girls who work as receptionists and have to wear miniskirts as a part of the uniform, or any girl who just stands around dressed up in a miniskirt, looking pretty to hawk goods. Maybe they are loose with their figures kind of like the feminist 1 in 4 rape statistic, where women who regretted it after the fact or who didn't come up with the idea are counted as having been raped. I haven't been there in a long time, but I don't believe the figure.
I can see how Korean culture could be complicated. My wife is part of a collectivist culture, and you marry in to the family. But they tell you what they think, usually, without using some kind of indirect way like Koreans most of the time. And people tend to be kind of laid back and more jovial in Indonesia than in Korea.
Maybe but when it comes to direct sex contact from my observation and estimate i would say its more like 5% . It surprises people because when you meet korean people or observe korean culture its sexual conservative.
Regarding the tea rooms ...i seen some of them but its mostly old ajuma that fills those places.
I also have to add korea has allot of ageism. In korean culture they see older people one way and younger people in another.
There are clubs only for young people and bars only for older people.
In korea you rarely see a young girl dating or marrying a much older man.
Korea is not a country to go to if your much older man looking for a younger girl unlike the philippines or maybe vietnam.
Although its slowly becoming more accepted inter racial couples are rising but if your a western guy ideally you want to be under 30 years old decent looking with some game to get a korean girl.
Korean girls are rising up with women liberal movement. You see it in how they act or dress. Its not in tthe same level as american women only because the korean parents still has allot of influence to thier daughters. In other words unlike america where you have many broken families and single moms korea still has that nuclear family
But it may change with the next generation.
The downside is that korea is materialistic and superficial. Looks matters and money matters in korea.
Those statistics have to be nonsense. Most of the women work for Samsung lol!
I just got married to a Korean lady from Seoul. Families dictate a lot what their kids do, even if the kids are 50+! The sex trade is small and more like girls from others countries whoring themselves there. It is a difficult country to find a bride, women there often want a man same age or younger and you have to have status. They are very racist. The ladies look young and take great care of themselves, probably the most attractive in all of Asia due to extensive skin care and plastic surgery practices. Most Koreans are Christian if that matters and they carry an amazing amount of pride. They think and talk abut sex all the time, it is a quiet burning passion and there has been big cultural change there. Divorce is way up as women are gaining a sense of independence and career, but still not as bad as the USA.
Same age or younger? Maybe with the next generation.
I have a korean wife and she is younger than me but not by whole lot.
Korea seems on the surface a youth culture now but still the old generation dictates whats going on.
Its sexual consrvative where if you try to google porn they block the sites but there is way around it.
If you look at girl groups in k pop.. they make the girls dress sexy. Me thinks its korean guys outlet for sexulity. Saying that there is allot of boy groups too.
Looks wise korean girls are pretty many of them gave slim built with very light skin tone. Not big breasted but many do have nice bult.
Speaking of which the younger korean guys got taller and beefy built. Im 5'7 but fair number of the younger korean guys are taller than me maybe 6 ft range.
Korea is not an ideal spot for foreign brides anymore...nor for mongers.
If you look on the Korean Cupid site most of the finer looking ladies want same age or even younger which shocked me. My Korean bride explained to me historically Korean women were mated to younger men, which was considered reproductively ideal. Then foreigners entered the scene when Korea was a poor country so things changed. South Korea is now a economically strong country with high standards. My Korean bride is 10 yr younger than me, and physically she is very young for her age. I don't think I could pull a 20 yr age gap in Korea without having something special to offer.
I would agree with that, not to mention that a Korean woman can be a real handful
Did you meet your wife online? How old is your wife? Im almost near 40 years and my korean wife is early 30's.
Im korean back ground by the way. A long time ago that did happen in korea where it was a younger groom to a older bride. For examplw my grand father was married when he was 14 years old and my grand mother was 18 .
Nowadays its not common. Some korean girls do look for younger guys i guess . I think allot of it is because in korean culture nowadays they focus so much on youth and beauty.
I agree korean wives are handful....on top of that korean culture is tough.
I met her online in America, she was living 5 minutes away from me. She is the only lady I ever decided to meet from Match.com. She is 43 yrs now and looks 28 (looks as fresh as my 30 yo ex-GFs from Asian), the most stunning and fit Korean I have seen here. Why I got her I don't know, we just hit it off. I'm 52 yrs now with 2 older kids.