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Zamboanga city

Postby Johnny1975 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:52 pm

There's not much information about Zamboanga here. From what I've heard and seen on youtube, it looks like a really nice place. It's a bit small though, but it's probably the nicest city in the Philippines that I've seen. The buildings are nicer, and there's generally more colour, whereas most other cities have a strange grey, dull look about them. And from what I've seen, there's no much squalour / squalor (I don't know how you spell it). They have a spanish consulate, and direct flights from Manila, and beaches. What's not to like?

Does anyone have any more information about Zamboanga? It seems like an overlooked place.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Yohan » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:14 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City_crisis

This happened only 2 years ago. Link above.

Zamboanga in Mindanao is a dangerous place, especially for people, who can be easily identified as Western foreigners.

It's a well-known place for frequent fightings between the Philippine Army and various Islamic groups.

Plenty of crimes like kidnapping and killings are going on and victims are not only foreigners, but also locals.

Most dangerous are the islands next to Mindanao - Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-Tawi, and on Mindanao not only Zamboanga but also Maguindanao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maguindanao_massacre

http://www.rappler.com/nation/82229-photos-hunt-marwan-mamasapano-maguindanao
Link to some pictures taken in Jan. 2015.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Johnny1975 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:45 pm

Yes I'm aware of what happened, but many people are saying that it's quite safe. It's hard to know what to believe.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby davewe » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:48 pm

Johnny1975 wrote:There's not much information about Zamboanga here. From what I've heard and seen on youtube, it looks like a really nice place. It's a bit small though, but it's probably the nicest city in the Philippines that I've seen. The buildings are nicer, and there's generally more colour, whereas most other cities have a strange grey, dull look about them. And from what I've seen, there's no much squalour / squalor (I don't know how you spell it). They have a spanish consulate, and direct flights from Manila, and beaches. What's not to like?

Does anyone have any more information about Zamboanga? It seems like an overlooked place.


You're kidding, right?

While I am not at all a paranoid traveler, Zamboanga is not the place you want to go for a 1st or even 10th trip to the Philippines. I disagree with the "all Mindanao is rife with terrorists" crowd, but Zamboanga is in point of fact dangerous. When I was single I was chatting with a girl from Zamboanga and even she would not meet me there.

That being said I do know a couple Americans who live there and have not had any problems. But even those would not say "it's quite safe."

There are far better places to go for a fun trip, to meet women, or to expat to.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Zambales » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:04 pm

Johnny1975 wrote:Yes I'm aware of what happened, but many people are saying that it's quite safe.


Only because nothing has happened to them personally but that doesn't necessarily mean anything won't happen to them in the future. I'd avoid Zamboanga and any Islamic Provinces if I was you.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Rock » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:41 pm

I've been to Zamboanga City twice. The city proper is relatively safe but locals will warn you that's it's dangerous to venture too far out. Even in the city, if you stay too long, you really might attract some of the wrong attention and be at serious risk. I don't recall seeing any white Euro looking people around and about there, the city is quite small, and foreigners in that region do get kidnapped in real time. Just read the news.

As for the infrastructure and state of the city, I was not impressed. It's small and the downtown area is gritty. There's little in the way of foreign friendly shopping and food options. There a higher percentage of Muslims and the girls of that religion for the most part wear head scarves. The people are short (par for the course in provincial Philippines). And the seaside area with some outdoor restos is about the only place worth visiting in the evening. I think they got one Gerry's Grill halfway out to the airport. Oh, and the stereotype that you can get by in Spanish there is overblown. The Chavacano dialect seems to either not be as commonly used as I expected not as similar to Spanish as I was lead to believe, at least to my ears.

Really IMO, and that's just MO, it's not a worthy city to visit, even if it was perfectly safe.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Jonny Law » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:03 am

I have been to Zamboanga City. I somehow survived.

I know DO NOT LEAVE YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT!!! BE f***ing SAFE YOU f***ing COWARDS!!!
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Johnny1975 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:55 am

Ok I get it. I'm chatting with a girl from Davao and she said it's not safe. Scrap Zamboanga. What a shame though, I does look like a nice place from what I've seen, although it's small. As for chavacano, it does sound a lot like spanish but it's kind of jumbled up, with simplified grammar and a load of weird foreign words thrown in. I might be willing to learn it if I lived there, if enough people spoke it (the news is in chavacano) but I'd probably just speak spanish and I'm sure they'd understand me better than I'd understand them in chavacano. It's like italians can understand spanish better than we can understand them. But no, Zamboanga isn't an option. I do believe it's unsafe.
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Ghost » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:58 pm

Jonny Law wrote:I have been to Zamboanga City. I somehow survived.

I know DO NOT LEAVE YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT!!! BE f***ing SAFE YOU f***ing COWARDS!!!
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Trip report?
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Re: Zamboanga city

Postby Yohan » Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:41 am

http://news.yahoo.com/philippine-military-says-18-dead-clashes-abu-sayyaf-091406108.html

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — Heavy fighting between government forces and Abu Sayyaf militants in the southern Philippines has left at least 15 rebels and three soldiers dead, officials said Wednesday.

Maj. Filemon Tan, a regional military spokesman, said the clashes began early this week as troops advanced toward an Abu Sayyaf camp in Basilan Island's Al-Barka township. He said the fighting intensified on Tuesday and sporadic skirmishes were continuing Wednesday.

At least seven militants and 13 soldiers also were wounded, with most of the government casualties hit by Abu Sayyaf snipers, he added.

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The Abu Sayyaf is suspected of kidnapping two Canadians, a Norwegian and a Filipino woman from a marina in the south in September. Militants who identified themselves in an online video as belonging to the Abu Sayyaf demanded more than $60 million for the release of the three foreigners.

The militants were also allegedly behind the beheading of a Malaysian hostage in Sulu province, where Abu Sayyaf gunmen are believed to be holding other foreign and Filipino hostages.


Basilan is the island next to Zamboanga City

http://basilan.gov.ph/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilan
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