Japan: Divorce w/out consent, lose right to reside there

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

Hello all of you Duerst The Wuerst HA charlatans (well like 96 percent of you guys whom refuse to show your face look like him I'm so sure),
here's an interesting find.

Attn.: Yohan - what are your thoughts?


http://en.rocketnews24.com/2017/05/02/a ... t-consent/

Awareness campaign warns foreigners in Japan of “Divorce without Consent”
Evie NyanEvie Nyan 4 days ago
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In Japan, you can be divorced without your consent, losing your right to reside in the country and access to your children.


International marriages can be challenging at the best of times, but in Japan the odds are stacked against foreigners, with several idiosyncrasies unique to the Japanese legal system often leading to confusion and much emotional distress. Approximately 90 per cent of divorces in Japan are “divorces of agreement” involving both spouses signing a form known as a rikon-todoke (divorce notice) which is then submitted to their city or ward office. Since Japan does not recognize joint custody, the form also allows the pair to legally decide which parent will gain custody of the children (shinken).

Recently, there have been cases where foreign nationals residing in Japan who are married to Japanese nationals have been the victim of what’s known as “divorce without consent” wherein the Japanese spouse forges their foreign spouse’s signature, or otherwise tricks them into signing a form they cannot read or fully understand, and submits the form behind their spouse’s back.

Since the Japanese authorities don’t investigate claims of forged signatures or signing under deception, the divorce is therefore final. A foreign national divorced in secret by a Japanese spouse can then find themselves suddenly losing their right to reside in the country as divorce automatically cancels spouse visas. This leaves the foreign national with 6 months in which to acquire another form of visa before facing deportation. Also, many who are divorced in this way find that their spouse has designated themself as having sole custody of the children, leaving the foreign national with zero legal access.

In response to the rising number of divorces of foreign nationals without their knowledge or consent, an awareness raising campaign has been started by Rikon Alert (Research Center for Issues on Divorce), involving the distribution of pamphlets and the construction of a website offering legal advice in 11 languages. An informational video uploaded to the Rikon Alert YouTube channel shows how a theoretical “divorce without consent” can play out:



Since the overwhelming majority of international marriages in Japan involve a Japanese man and a non-Japanese woman (primarily from China and the Philippines), this issue heavily affects women, particularly mothers. Those who are unfamiliar with the Japanese language are often not equipped to handle a lengthy legal battle to contest a “divorce by agreement” and are often left with nowhere to turn. Hopefully, the campaign will help to educate those at risk.

It’s always important to familiarise yourself with the Japanese legal system if you are considering marriage in Japan as a foreigner. One possible way to protect yourself in advance is to submit a document known as a rikon fujuri moushidesho (non-acceptance of divorce motion) which will block any rikon-todoke submissions until such time as the motion is personally cancelled. Examples of both forms can be found on the Rikon Alert website.

Source: Rikon Alert via Mainichi Japan
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[Yohan]

Yohan - what are your thoughts?

Awareness campaign warns foreigners in Japan of “Divorce without Consent”

In Japan, you can be divorced without your consent, losing your right to reside in the country and access to your children.

1 -
Children, it applies to both, Japanese or foreign ex-husband - in general children go to the mother, and the father 'disappears'. There are no visitation rights and no shared custody. However the father (unlike Western countries) has no obligation at all to pay child support or alimony.

In Japan most divorces are done out of court. Neither judges nor lawyers want to have anything to do with divorce, it's no business for them in Japan.

In Japan this issue is legally seen a civil matter.

For divorce sign up together an internet form of the ward office where you are living, next day go together to the ward office and sign. Divorced. Finished.

About children, some couples are hateful to each others and refuse any contact, but many others try to find a solution, as mothers are often in a bad financial situation - please give me some money for the children every time you come and you can meet them, something like that.

However many Japanese and foreign men, openly said are very happy that they can 'disappear' as a father and have no obligation to pay anything, believe me.

Some Japanese women also like this situation as it is easier for them for dating a new man who is willing to 'take over' the children - as the ex-husband has no rights at all to interfere in the life of the children anymore. Should such a relationship fail again and the new man moves out, he is NEVER be kept responsible for children not living with them, not for his own biological children and not for children of another man before him.

Not that bad if you compare it with Western countries, where the man pays, often not even the biological father, and the woman is doing everything that he cannot consume his visitation rights, especially if they are not living in the same city, but far away.

In USA the man might even sent to jail for failing to pay child support. LOL, USA is such a feminist country.

2 -
The right to reside in Japan, it depends on your visa status,

in case of a spouse visa this is true, if the foreigner is not married anymore, he has no right to stay in Japan, this has nothing to do with the gender of the foreigner.

However a spouse visa is known to be vulnerable, it's not only about divorce, but also about death (for example car accident, illness) of the spouse.
The foreigner, only with a spouse visa, will find himself or herself in trouble when facing immigration officers.

However many foreigners - including myself - are not on a spouse visa, but on a working visa or student visa, long-term resident permit etc.
I was never on a spouse visa, it did not even exist when I came to Japan.

Since many years, I am a Japanese permanent resident, for life - married, widower or divorced does not matter at all.

I can only advice foreigners to get away from spouse visa permits and to study carefully which other visa fits them better.

[droid]

^Great info, no filler or BS. That's what this forum is about.

[Yohan]

there have been cases where foreign nationals residing in Japan who are married to Japanese nationals have been the victim of what’s known as “divorce without consent” wherein the Japanese spouse forges their foreign spouse’s signature, or otherwise tricks them into signing a form they cannot read or fully understand, and submits the form behind their spouse’s back

I am not aware of that.
Here in Tokyo the ward office where you sign for marriage and divorce insists that BOTH spouses have to come together and sign together in front of an offical in the ward office.
If the foreign spouse is willingly however to sign some documents which he or she cannot read and does not understand, what should the offical in the ward office do?

tricks them into signing a form they cannot read or fully understand
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overwhelming majority of international marriages in Japan involve a Japanese man and a non-Japanese woman (primarily from China and the Philippines

A Chinese woman can read any Japanese official form and will understand its meaning - even if she has no knowledge of Japanese - as more than 70 percent of what is written on this Japanese form is in Chinese character writing.

Chinese, similar to Japanese are using personal seals for signature and do not sign by hand with a pen. The argument she did not fully understand is not valid in such a case. If you don't have your seal with you (which is officially registered and created only one time), you might use your fingerprint instead of it.

Often quick marriage and quick divorce is very suspicious - especially young Chinese and Filipinas are often on marriage scam in Japan and finally ending up in a night club.

In Japan many more men are married with a foreign spouse than women with a foreign husband, almost 2:1, and in most cases it is the woman and not the man who is filing for divorce.

I hope this answers your questions.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

There is no wonder why Japan has a fertility and demographic crisis looming. Initiatives like this will only make it worse.

I was in Japan for the month of June. I loved it and hope to return, but I did get a sense of the disconnect between men and women.

Young men seem as decent and wholesome as anywhere in the world. Women there just seem unimpressed and mildly hedonistic. "Equality" there seems to have granted women more equality than men. Male suicides are very high as is apathy towards the male condition.

It will only get worse.

[chanta76]

Contrarian Expatriate ,

Feminism is like cancer. It's happening in Asia . Asian women become pickier. Local Asian guys have to raise their game. But I think local Japanese guys just don't want to bother. I heard they prefer to jerk off to porn and play video games. Makes me think Japanese guys are bunch of wimps and p***y.

I do hear that in Japan there is some Japanese girls that go crazy for foreign men. Some even go for black guys because of the black large penis stereotype. It may sound great for some black men but in a way it's downward spiral for Japan. Once there is a gender division in Japan and Japanese girls slut themselves out to western guys..it's no longer Japan anymore. Just a wealthy version of Thailand or the Philippines.

[chanta76]

Yohan,

You mentioned that for some men they disappear from their ex-wives or their kids live. I could understand not wanting to deal with the ex-wives but I do find it sad if they don't want to know about their kids. I am married but if my marriage ever failed and we have kids. I would want to know about the kids and how they come out or even have some sort of impact in their life.

I do agree the child support in America is very draconian. It doesn't make sense that a women can decide to have an abortion without consent of the men but if a women decides to keep the child she can name the father and go after payments for child support. Feminist never can see how this is wrong. Men have no rights in reproduction but men are held responsible for raising the child. It has to be either both ways or neither .

At least Japan seems fair with that where as in America it's f***ed.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I do hear that in Japan there is some Japanese girls that go crazy for foreign men. Some even go for black guys because of the black large penis stereotype. It may sound great for some black men but in a way it's downward spiral for Japan. Once there is a gender division in Japan and Japanese girls slut themselves out to western guys..it's no longer Japan anymore. Just a wealthy version of Thailand or the Philippines.

In every country in the world there are some women who like black men, Japan is no different and such is nothing new. Japanese girls are on their version of the cock carousel but everyone likes to blame the young men for being uninterested.

Gynocentrism knows no borders.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

I do hear that in Japan there is some Japanese girls that go crazy for foreign men. Some even go for black guys because of the black large penis stereotype. It may sound great for some black men but in a way it's downward spiral for Japan. Once there is a gender division in Japan and Japanese girls slut themselves out to western guys..it's no longer Japan anymore. Just a wealthy version of Thailand or the Philippines.

In every country in the world there are some women who like black men, Japan is no different and such is nothing new. Japanese girls are on their version of the cock carousel but everyone likes to blame the young men for being uninterested.

Gynocentrism knows no borders.

+1

[chanta76]

I do hear that in Japan there is some Japanese girls that go crazy for foreign men. Some even go for black guys because of the black large penis stereotype. It may sound great for some black men but in a way it's downward spiral for Japan. Once there is a gender division in Japan and Japanese girls slut themselves out to western guys..it's no longer Japan anymore. Just a wealthy version of Thailand or the Philippines.

In every country in the world there are some women who like black men, Japan is no different and such is nothing new. Japanese girls are on their version of the cock carousel but everyone likes to blame the young men for being uninterested.

Gynocentrism knows no borders.

Or perhaps maybe Japanese men are just too intimidated. I remember when I was in Asia I met some Japanese guys. When they see western men they seemed at awe or intimidated. It's like they believe the western black or white guys are better than them. At the same time they were afraid to approach women. The fear of rejection was big for them. Having a large sex industry doesn't help since they can just go to that.

I see this as demise for Japan. Gender division is where it starts with the break down of the family . Once there is society as a whole. Give a generation or 2 Japan is not Japan anymore. They need immigrant to maintain population but if Japan welcomes different immigrants. It's not Japan as we know it .

countries with large Immigration lose it's original identity. And will have some diversity problems. Just look at America. Some people will say this is good but I think it's more bad.