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I'm moving to China, departing from Oklahoma on December 11!

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Postby DiscoPro_Joe » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:30 pm

It's official...

I signed a six-month contract with Meten English today, which begins March 1st. They'll help me look for an apartment at Jiefang Bei within the next week or two.

I also finished adding a whopping 299 new songs to my collection from the six new various-artist Chinese disco albums I bought 10 days ago (each album had 3 CD's apiece, and cost about USD $4 per album). That's 9 cents per song! The majority of them are in Mandarin, and they're really, really good.

This evening, I took a walk along the south side of the Yangtze River next to Nanbin Road (with a great view of the center of Chongqing) with my new female friend whom I hung out with last Thursday night (her English name is Evita). I brought along my iPod and two sets of headphones, and she liked my new music. We had a good time!

Well, that's the latest news from me. All good thus far! Thumbs up! :)
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Postby DiscoPro_Joe » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:39 pm

WWu777 wrote:I presume this is an advanced level English course where you can just teach in all English right?

Do you know if teachers are allowed to date students in China?


You teach all levels. When you teach basic-level students, a Chinese teacher will usually accompany you to help them with something they don't understand.

And unfortunately, I'm not allowed to date any co-workers or students at the language school, which is part of the contract. The school doesn't want any conflicts of interest. But oh well...that won't stop me the least bit from finding a girlfriend in Chongqing! One of the other foreign teachers told me, "You won't 'find' a woman in this city...they'll find you!!!" :D
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Postby Winston » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:50 am

Discoprojoe, I put all the photos you sent me in this album. The forum members can see them here at this link.

http://picasaweb.google.com/Eclectic007 ... directlink
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Postby Mr S » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:32 pm

I forgot to ask a big question: How many students will there be per class? Anymore than 30 students is a real pain in the ass to deal with on a regular basis.

If you have teaching skills and credentials you can make around $800, give or take a month on average in the Philippines (before taxes). So I guess China would be a better financial deal now, although I wonder how easy it would be to send money to a foreign bank account overseas? That would be the next question as a lot of these socialist 3rd/2nd world countries don't like money to leave their country.

Also I'm assuming you can find privates easy enough over there. It's hard to get privates in Philippines cause other nationalities would rather take the cheaper route of hiring a Filipino to teach them English rather than a native speaker.

I still think I would rather try teaching in Vietnam first over China as that country pays better and the southern part of the country is tropical. You can make good money in Hong Kong if you have teaching credentials, although the cost of living offsets that a bit. Plus I think the women in Vietnam are a bit more attractive there overall, at least in the southern half of the country as they have more of a mix with the Cambodian blood. The northern peoples have much more Chinese features. So if you prefer curvier woman with a mix of skin colors than Ho Chi Min City would be the place to go. If you prefer thinner, Chinese looking women then Hanoi would be better. But Hanoi is socially boring so I don't know how living there long term would work out. Night life is better in Ho Chi Min.
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Postby Winston » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:50 pm

You can open a Citibank account and deposit your money there. That's what I do. An account with Citibank lets you access the funds in the US or anywhere. They have branches in China too, I'm sure.
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Postby Mr S » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:57 pm

There are different banking rules depending on the country of origin, doesn't matter if the bank is originally based in a western country, the bank has to play by the rules of China or whatever country you happen to be in.

I'm also talking about earned income in the country you're working in, not money that was originally deposited in a western country. Accessing that isn't a problem as countries would love you to spend American dollars in their cities, on the other hand they would prefer you not take money earned in their country overseas.
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Postby Winston » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:59 pm

I'm not sure I understand you. What I meant was that if you earned money in Chinese currency, for instance, you can put it in your Citibank account there. Or if you had a dollar account, you can convert the money to dollars and then deposit it as well. Either way, you can access it at your account whether there or in the US.
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:39 pm

Wow congratulations.

That's amazing what that city looks like. It's an incredible looking place. Thanks so much for sharing that.

And you only pay 1/8 of your salary for a place to stay. That's mindboggling.

Stay in touch... Please. We'd like to be kept up to date on how things are going.


Great site Winston.
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:03 pm

god Winston, I am kicking myself that I didn't use that hospitality site.
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Postby Mr S » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:23 am

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you join an American bank based in let's say China and use their banking services as many countries like China limit the amount of money you can send overseas to a separate American bank account. If you open a Citibank account in China, it will not be recognized as an American account just because it is an American bank and you're an American citizen. It is a Chinese bank and plays by the banking rules of China. So for instance let's say that if you are a registered foreigner with all the proper visa's and your company registers you as part of the visa process that you make so much money per month, you can only send a certain percentage of your total salary overseas to a separate American bank account.

So lets say you were able to save 60% of your salary after expenses and you wanted to send this overseas to a separate American bank account. Well the government may have limitations where you can only send 30% or something like that overseas. Its a way for them to monitor what your real intentions are in China. Like let's say you have privates and you pull in extra income and you start depositing that into your account. Well if the bank keeps watch it will notice your income is higher than what you are supposed to make and red flags will come up as you may not be paying taxes on this income and whatever other rules they have in that country. You will need to get creative about how you would get a high percentage of money out of the country. And you can't just leave the country will large sums of cash either, as there is a cap on that too.

So essentially just cause you can open up a bank account in said country that originates in a western country, does not mean that account is recognized as equal to an American branch. If you opened a Citibank account in the Philippines and then went to America and walked into a bank and gave them your account number from the Philippines, they would tell you that you had to open a separate American account. Sure you can make deposits from ATMs anywhere in the world but any other banking service, it doesn't transfer from country to country.

I specifically keep my military credit union account open cause it is advantageous as they have branches in many countries and this enables me to bank in all those countries. If the American military was still in Philippines I'd have still have branch access here! The closest branch to me right now is Hong Kong and this was how I was able to buy my Mac cheaper there than in the Philippines as my credit card was honored in Hong Kong cause my bank is technically based in Hong Kong, as well as in America and other countries.
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Postby Winston » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:33 am

Well I think we don't make enough to have to worry about that. A few thousand dollars won't matter. But if you're transferring 100k then it might become an issue.

But as long as I can withdraw cash from my Citibank account that I opened in the PI anywhere that there is Citibank, what does it matter? Say I deposited 1000 dollars in the PI Citibank. I could still withdraw it in the US. So no problem. It's my account and as long as I have the ATM card, they will let me withdraw.

If I wanted to transfer to an overseas account, I can just write a check from one account to another. Usually it's not an issue.
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Postby Mr S » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:53 am

It becomes an issue if you still have to pay bills in America using a bank there but you work overseas and can only deposit money in their banks. That's what I'm talking about.
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Postby Winston » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:13 am

Then I'd try to pay those bills with a credit card. Or maybe write checks to those companies from overseas?

If you're living in a first world country though, you can usually use PayPal.

Actually you can open a PI based PayPal now, but you would have to link it to a PI based bank I think.
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Postby Mr S » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:01 pm

You're not getting what I'm talking about, don't wish to keep going around in circles...
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Postby Winston » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:11 pm

DiscoPro_Joe wrote:
Mr S wrote:How much are they going to pay you there? How many hours of teaching do you have to do?


8,000 RMB/month (i.e., about USD $1,200). A nice apartment in the very center of Chongqing costs about 1,000-1,500 RMB/month. Not bad, if I don't say so myself!

It involves 25 teaching hours per week. (Each class is 1 hour.) But here's the good news: most of the lesson plans are already laid out for us, so we just need to spend about 30-45 minutes looking over each plan beforehand, thinking about what we'll teach and how we'll teach it. It invloves a 7-8 hour workday, five days per week. Our days off are usually on Mon-Tues, Tues-Wed, or Wed-Thurs.


DiscoProJoe,
Your apartment looks very nice. How did you get it for only 1000-1500 RMB? A Chinese girl I'm talking to that I showed your apartment photos to, told me your apartment costs more. She said:

"it maybe take 2000 -3000RMB per month, but it depend on different places,somewhere maybe too expensive,such as shanghai or beijing?"

Can you confirm that you got it for 1000-1500 RMB per month?

Here are the photos of it that you sent me:

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See the album of the pics of Chongqing that he sent me here:

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