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For anyone who wants to work/live in Philippines long term

Postby Mr S » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:22 pm

If there is anyone here who wants to live and work in the Philippines making a livable wage and meet the following qualifications you can PM me for more info. This type of work does not offer a working visa or any other benefits (you can live in the Philippines on a tourist visa, you just have to renew every two months for around 4k pesos or so); just a decent wage that enables you to live like an upper class Filipino (50-100k Peso a month depending on amount of work available; cash, minus 10-15% tax). I'll only be replying to this post up until April 11th 2011. So after that you're shit out of luck.

* Native English Speaker from the United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada, United States, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa.
• An undergraduate degree or a qualification which can be demonstrated to be equivalent to an undergraduate degree.
• A recognized qualification in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) or recognized equivalent as part of a recognized university award course.
• At least 3 years full time (or the equivalent part time) relevant TESOL teaching experience (minimum one year post certificate level qualification). The majority of this teaching experience must relate to adult students (16 years and over).
• The required professional attributes and interpersonal skills. (Basically speak proper colloquial English, be responsible and not an asshole)

Don't PM if you don't meet these qualifications, you're not going to be considered. Actually, people with masters or PhD degrees will have a better chance then just the minimums unless you have a lot of teaching experience in the classroom.
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Postby Montanaland » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:29 pm

I for one would love to be able to find the above described job once I have my duckies lined up in a row.

S- Are decent jobs like this in the Phils able to be found..or are they pretty rare? Also, are there alot of applicants with graduate degrees chasing these jobs in the Phils? I am short a Celta..but have been at a U.S. high school for the past 2 yrs as a paraprofessional.


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Postby Mr S » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:48 pm

Montanaland wrote:I for one would love to be able to find the above described job once I have my duckies lined up in a row.

S- Are decent jobs like this in the Phils able to be found..or are they pretty rare? Also, are there alot of applicants with graduate degrees chasing these jobs in the Phils? I am short a Celta..but have been at a U.S. high school for the past 2 yrs as a paraprofessional.


Thanks,

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You need a TEFL or CELTA plus 3 years of teaching 16 years or older the English language. If you had an English/Education/TEFL degree masters degree then you don't need the CELTA or TEFL certificate.

And yes it's difficult to get a higher paying job in the Philippines. If you want to live and teach English overseas you have to pay your dues for a few years at crappier locations and lower wages generally. That's what I had to do. But eventually you will network with other teachers and find better gigs. If you can afford it and have the time I would suggest getting a masters degree in education or a subject that you can teach in a school overseas. Science and math teachers are in high demand and sometimes make more then the liberal arts type degrees such as English, Education or History.

I've gone ahead and done a Masters in Education with a literacy specialization and also a separate humanities degree so I can teach English literature and sociology type classes at the high school or college level if I desired or needed to in the future.

I was contemplating doing a PhD but right now I dont think the time and costs involved really do much for ones career unless you want to try to get tenure some place at a particular university, and nowadays they are mostly run by socialists and radical feminists so I wouldn't do to well in that environment anyways. I meet a lot of older foreigners who have doctorates and most don't even use them or care about them anymore. But they got them in the 60-80's when it wasn't as expensive and actually you could get your money's worth for it. Nowadays it seems to be another piece of paper to make money for universities.
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:06 pm

[quote="MrS]I was contemplating doing a PhD but right now I dont think the time and costs involved really do much for ones career unless you want to try to get tenure some place at a particular university, and nowadays they are mostly run by socialists and radical feminists so I wouldn't do to well in that environment anyways. I meet a lot of older foreigners who have doctorates and most don't even use them or care about them anymore. But they got them in the 60-80's when it wasn't as expensive and actually you could get your money's worth for it. Nowadays it seems to be another piece of paper to make money for universities.[/quote]

Don't ever pay money for a doctorate -- it's never worth it. The one good thing about U.S. universities is that, relatively speaking, they have a lot of money, and many PhD programs pay you a stipend (usually $12-15K a year) while paying for all tuition and other costs. It's like a low-paying job with health insurance. You usually have to be a teaching or research assistant, in addition to your coursework, to get such a package, but sometimes it's a straight-out fellowship with no such requirements.

As for feminists and socialists ruling the roost in academia -- feminists and feminized males of a very careerist orientation, yes; socialists, however, are scarcely to be found anywhere in the U.S. now, including academia.

Repeat: DO NOT PAY MONEY FOR A DOCTORATE. If you can't get one of the full financial aid packages, they aren't worth doing.
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Postby Mr S » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:13 pm

Yeah, I pretty much have figured this out. However, what I mean by socialists is what is now called the radical left, or leftist type politics vs. centrist or what is labeled conservative. If you don't fall in line with their type of politics and social experiments you aren't going to succeed. I have more of a libertarian mindset and I definitely wouldn't succeed in modern academia in Western universities. That's why I have chosen to live overseas for the most part.
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:10 pm

Most of them aren't really leftists of any sort now, though those can be found. Academics are into "identity politics," such as feminism or "queer studies." Basically, whatever their own personal little grievance is, that's what their politics is shaped around. Many are post-modernists, which is sort of libertarianism without the principledness part. A libertarian would fit in with a modern faculty much easier than a committed leftist/activist. But trust me: you don't want to fit in.
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Postby MrPeabody » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:00 pm

Here's another one that just requires a degree and doesn't seem to have a specific experience requirement.

Teachers Needed in The Philippines

Posted By: Winglish Phone <hr_winglish>
Date: Tuesday, 5 April 2011, at 9:28 a.m.

Winglish Phone's goal is to provide the best possible language learning opportunities to our customers by opening up a call center in the Philippines.
We not only aim at great customer satisfaction through the best possible service, but we are committed to providing great employment benefits.
WinglishPhone is located in Ortigas, Manila, a center of the BPO (Business Process Outsourcing) industry.
WinglishPhone's education center retains top tier teachers with generous benefit packages for them. Winglishphone boast of the finest facilities as it provides comfortable working environment for its employees.
Even teachers without much experience can master the art of teaching, through our intensive training program.
Furthermore, we are also committed to strengthening our teachers' ability to teach proficiently. To fulfill this, our management conducts research on text books, shares teaching methodologies and manages mentoring activities.
We are inviting people who are hoping to teach our students with Winglish's quality materials and to benefit from employee-oriented management.
Winglish Phone invites individuals who love teaching, passionate professional mindset and ability to teach, now.
We are looking for...
* American, Canadian, British
* Graduate of any course
* Can teach Korean students and has lots of patience
* Good communicator and can teach the English language
* Professional, with a strong work ethic
* Certifications LET, TESOL, IELTS, TOEIC, TOEFL, etc (and/or any International Certifications) is a plus factor
Benefits include:
* Maximum salary of USD 1,500 / month
* Paid Visa processing
* Paid Airfare
* Paid Board and Lodging
* Paid Leave Vacations
We are located at 11/F TYCOON CENTER BUILDING, PEARL DRIVE, ORTIGAS CENTER, PASIG CITY.

1. attach recent picture or copy of passport
2. include in your resume skype ID, address or location.
3. fresh graduates can apply

You can send your resumes to:
hr_winglish@yahoo.com (hr_winglish @ yahoo.com) or hr_winglish@hotmail.com (hr_winglish @ hotmail.com)
Our contact number is (63) 02-7064160
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Postby ErikHeaven » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:07 pm

So if i am reading correctly they just needLET, TESOL, IELTS, TOEIC, TOEFL, etc (and/or any International Certifications? No bachelors or masters degree?
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Postby MrPeabody » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:49 pm

ErikHeaven wrote:So if i am reading correctly they just needLET, TESOL, IELTS, TOEIC, TOEFL, etc (and/or any International Certifications? No bachelors or masters degree?


In Thailand, you need a bachelors degree to get the work permit. I don't know about the Philippines.
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Postby globetrotter » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:29 am

gsjackson wrote:[quote="MrS]I was contemplating doing a PhD but right now I dont think the time and costs involved really do much for ones career unless you want to try to get tenure some place at a particular university, and nowadays they are mostly run by socialists and radical feminists so I wouldn't do to well in that environment anyways. I meet a lot of older foreigners who have doctorates and most don't even use them or care about them anymore. But they got them in the 60-80's when it wasn't as expensive and actually you could get your money's worth for it. Nowadays it seems to be another piece of paper to make money for universities.[/quote]

Don't ever pay money for a doctorate -- it's never worth it. The one good thing about U.S. universities is that, relatively speaking, they have a lot of money, and many PhD programs pay you a stipend (usually $12-15K a year) while paying for all tuition and other costs. It's like a low-paying job with health insurance. You usually have to be a teaching or research assistant, in addition to your coursework, to get such a package, but sometimes it's a straight-out fellowship with no such requirements.

As for feminists and socialists ruling the roost in academia -- feminists and feminized males of a very careerist orientation, yes; socialists, however, are scarcely to be found anywhere in the U.S. now, including academia.

Repeat: DO NOT PAY MONEY FOR A DOCTORATE. If you can't get one of the full financial aid packages, they aren't worth doing.[/quote]


Don't get a Doctorate unless you want to be a tenured professor or you want to be an Engineer, Physician, Dentist, Lawyer, etc.

Human Resources doesn't know what to do with you. Frankly, you intimidate them to the point of terror. You will be over-qualified for every position in the company. You will be paid LESS than someone with a Masters. And you will have to endure 7+ years of PC brain-washing nonsense and Feminist Politics.

Just don't. Find something else to do.
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Postby MrPeabody » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:47 am

A PHD can still be worth it if you are in a technical discipline. However, the masters in science is about the optimum for getting a first time job. The trick is to not do it if it is going to take you a lot of time. If it takes you 5 years then forget it. Don't spend more then 3 years. Foreign students who have families tend to get through quickly because they can't afford to fool around. Don't do it unless you clearly have the talent. In industry, Masters and PhDs do the same work. There are only a small handful of universities that are on the leading edge - for computer science - MIT, Stanford, and Carnegie-Mellon.
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