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Imagine Russia in 2050! According to Paul Goble, a specialist on ethnic minorities in the Russian Federation has predicted that within the next several decades, Russia will become a Muslim majority state. There is another bad news with fast decline in countryÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s population. This has already become a headache for Russian politicians and policy makers. President Vladimir Putin has called already for Russian women to have more children, because demographers predict that RussiaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s population will fall from 143 million to 100 million by 2050. This situation has alarmed Russians as well Western leaders, more so because analysts estimate that Muslims will comprise the majority group in RussiaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s population in few decades.
The Muslim population growth rate since 1989 is between 40 and 50 percent, depending on ethnic groups. Today Russia has about 8,000 mosques while 15 years there were only 300 mosques. According to statistics, by the end of 2015, number of mosques in Russia will cross 25,000. These statistics are frightening for many ethnic Russians who associate Islam with the KremlinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s war against insurgents in Chechnya. Russia is shrinking. Alarmed by the situation, Putin has offered incentives to women who will have more children
The Russians are suffering from their post colonial syndrome just as the Brits and French are. How do you all think Russia got to be so big in size? They started out as a small principality called Muscovy, then began annexing areas around them and assimilating local Finno-Ugric and Slavic groups into their state. Later, in the times of Peter the Great, they changed the name Muscovy to Russia in honor of the Rus Vikings and the Kiev State ( the Ukrainians are very much pissed about that still) . Then they kept expanding till they hit the Muslim Turkic nations down below and absorbed them ( geographically, not culturally, as these did not want them there). Then after the USSR was formed, they gave the big Muslim nations semi independent Soviet republics with parliaments and rights to secede, but to the smaller ones- autonomous republics with no rights to secede. Then Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan broke off because they had the constitutional right to do so, but Chechnya, Tatarstan and Dagestan did not.
Anyway, all things considered, they ended up with colonies/territories and ex-colonies filled with some 100 million Muslim Turks and Mongols. And now the chickens are coming home to roost. These people are flooding Russian cities in droves looking for work and doing menial jobs there. The rich Russians want them there because they work hard and do not drink or complain. The poor ones organize into skinhead gangs and beat them up.
The lesson is- invade the world, invite the world.
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A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
Sounds very familiar as some of the anti-Islamic rants by the same handful of posters as well. Islam has long banned interest on money. This is something Anglo/Western banking system could lean from Islam and we wouldn't have this mess. This is a typical alarmist tripe actually, the Government has had a running feud with Chechnya since the fall of Communism if not before that. As I said no place is Utopia and if you run around the world looking for it, you're life will waste away.
Anyway its the extremes that get the headlines. Moderate Muslims are the people you see everyday who are no threat to you and wear Western clothing, but I also see there is some pining among some posters of the more orthodox Islam to come to America in a ridiculous attempt to control Western Women some how.
That's why that show glee when there theories are confirmed in the media...
Suggestion, move out of Germany then....
I get it, everywhere White People are, Brown People with different cultures and beliefs than the "default" want to invade where you live.
If they are human they should be equal, no more and no less. Your problem is you have done things in your life the so-called right way but it hasn't rewarded you with the life you thought would signal you have made it.
How come you don't get excited over more extreme forms of White Supremacy which manifest itself throughout Anglo culture?
See this is the hypocrisy that is typical with White Men in Anglo countries. Again the belief that Extreme Religious views and Feminism are the biggest problems we face as a society is the view of so-called moderates, when its not. The Consumerism, embraced of Darwinism and the constant protecting of Capitalism is the problem here IE: The love of money or the love of privilege and not wanting to share in that privilege.
Obviously you're not paying attention to the Arab Spring at all and while it might result in some new Governments not being friendly to Western Hegemony, it will result in less extreme forms of Islam because for example this is not what the majority of Egyptians want in a Government or a society, which was one of the most Western in the Middle East until the 1970's, that's Western Hegemony for you...
Just like America gives aid to both sides of the Palestine/Israel debate, which is why many people believe that will not come to a solution until that stops.
Again just typical, wants to take no responsibility for the continuation of White Supremacy but happily stands up and denounces more so-called extreme forms of society control....
Mainstream (i.e. Cathoic / Orthodox / Lutheran) Christianity believes in this ban as well, and extends the Old Testament prohibition on usury to all mankind. We have been wimpy about enforcing the ban. We allowed Jews to enter our society and do what our rules forbade. Tolerance of predatory lending by Talmudic Jewish banksters during the Middle Ages was a mistake, and should stop. Those Talmudic types used to lend to nobility and royalty. With the advent of the Rothschild Illuminati crime cartel in the late 1700's, royalty (Hessians then others) learned they could be banksters too. Over the last two centurie, everybody in power has gradually became a Talmudic-style predatory bankster, or their colaborator.
Remnants of usuury laws survived for quite a while. I happen to know that credit card interest rates in Arkansas, for example, were capped at 10% as late as 1980. Banks still managed to make a profit.
Yeah the CCCP did handle that at first, however, their psuedo-capitalist ways have allowed the growth of evangelical Christianity to make inroads in the nation. Go look it up.
I do not think my rant was anti-Islamic; it was just anti-colonial. The Russian expansionist and colonialist policies as well as their invading and deporting/conquering people are backfiring on them.
They should have stayed in Moscow and the smaller principalities around it and not ventured on all these wild colonial expansions. And now if they don't like the millions of Muslim Turco- Mongols in their country, they only have the czars to blame for it.
The Germans are grumbling about Turks, well, why did they not invite say, Poles or Lithuanians to work in Germany? Oh, those are too expensive!
Hey, Germans and Russians, you'd better start f@cking and making babies the old fashioned way. Otherwise, your race and culture are pretty much done for!
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
In my observation, the so called White Supremacy is mainly a movement by poor US people of North/ Western European descent. It is not strong politically or economically. Their goals such as e.g. some White state in Oregon/Washington is just a pipe dream. It will never be as strong as Islam which is backed by oil money or Zionism which is backed by so many financial sources as well. They also have no strong media except some websites.
They tried to export their ideas into European countries and had some small success among disgruntled masses of mainly East Euros and some poor Brits, however, their ideas of "whiteness" as a "united racial nationality/ ethnicity" is not something that most Euros can understand or relate to. People in Europe just think of themselves as Hungarians, Serbs, Italians, etc. The American ideas of a virtually non existent "American nationality" and strong white/ black/ Hispanic/ Asian, etc ethnic "nationalities" are alien to them.
Hitler, for example, was not a white supremacist, but an Aryan supremacist and until the day he died he could not formulate clearly who the Aryans were. He saw Armenians as Aryans, but Jews as not ( they look virtually the same). He saw Poles and Russians as non Aryans but Romanians and Italians and Japanese as Aryans. But he was a nutcase and got defeated in the end.
He is the closest that Europeans will ever come to 'something like' White Supremacy.
With the so called white people being only some 10 percent of the world population, they will basically be engulfed by other groups within the next couple of centuries. Those who have sex and make many babies will eventually win over those who do not.
Just my view on it.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
You probably know this topic better than me. However my impression is conflict between Russians and Mongols was started by Mongols, and Russian conquest was logical as self-defense in this context.
I wonder why 1990's Russia didn't liquidate the Russian Federation and grant independence to Chechnya, Kalmykia and all the others. Seems like it would have been a great time to do it.
OTH, U.S./Zionist/NATO bases in Georgia and Azerbaijan and Kirghizia and elsewhere, and incursion into Ossetia, serve as evidence that the Russians will be encircled and enslaved by the 'Sphere if they redraw boundaries on purely ethnic lines.
There's a terrible historical irony here. Germans are mostly descended from ancient Celts, Cumbrians, Goths, Huns and other assorted misc tribes. They spent centuries plaguing Rome's borders as barbarian hordesman raping and pillaging which eventually led to the fall of the western Roman Empire.
Now you have the descendants of these people being outbred and sort of driven out of significance by similar cross border cultural incursions by people from descended from Parthia/Sassanids/Byzantine and the asian steppe.
It's like history coming full circle.
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