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Postby theprimebait » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:54 pm

Banano wrote:'the average russian woman slept with more men in her teenage years than the most slutty american clubskank.'



This is so true, I can confirm this and my sample size iz 10-15 Russian/UK women. Non p4p .

At 10 they start sucking cocks, 12-15 most of them would start having sex, by 20 they have lot of experience


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4hNVZCwC4[/youtube]
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Postby jtest28 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:44 pm

ThePrimeBait is right. It's that men want white women and they become victims of wishful thinking. When I was in Ukraine, I did see some really young, teenish or 20 yo girls who were very conservative, though strangely, none older than that. Not near as many as I thought there would be though. The typical Ukrainian woman was in fact very good-looking, more so than I had ever seen in my life. I didn't even know women could look like that. But they were bitches, deep down. Sure, on the surface they were nice but just because their men make them be. I can't fathom bringing one back to the states though. I imagine as soon as she set foot on the ground, I would be running away from her as fast as I can!

And even if I were to move there, and I did LOVE it there, (not for the women though, just to be away from the US) but even if I moved there, I wouldn't want the average Ukrainian woman as a mate. . . You know, I think I've actually become racist toward white women. . . At least Fillipina women can understand some romantic ideas, but just try talking romance to a Ukrainian girl and I can hear it now, "he not REAL man!" Man, you cant even show that you care for her at all! f**k that. Ukrainian girls loved my rugged and strong looks, when I went there I was hard as granite at 255lb. They were physically all over me, but I wasn't enough of an asshole for them. . . Wait, that reminds me of something or somewhere else, hmmm, American women! Hell, the problem isn't even America, its WHITE women. Something about modern culture is activating something deep down inside them. Because I've heard from too many old men who have sworn to me that women (white women) used to not be this way.
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Postby pete98146 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:27 pm

zboy1 wrote:Anyone who thinks Filipinos are hotter than Russian chicks need to have their heads examined...


Guess I need to make an apt to have my head examined!
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Postby Hero » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:51 pm

jtest28 wrote:ThePrimeBait is right. It's that men want white women and they become victims of wishful thinking. When I was in Ukraine, I did see some really young, teenish or 20 yo girls who were very conservative, though strangely, none older than that. Not near as many as I thought there would be though. The typical Ukrainian woman was in fact very good-looking, more so than I had ever seen in my life. I didn't even know women could look like that. But they were bitches, deep down. Sure, on the surface they were nice but just because their men make them be. I can't fathom bringing one back to the states though. I imagine as soon as she set foot on the ground, I would be running away from her as fast as I can!

And even if I were to move there, and I did LOVE it there, (not for the women though, just to be away from the US) but even if I moved there, I wouldn't want the average Ukrainian woman as a mate. . . You know, I think I've actually become racist toward white women. . . At least Fillipina women can understand some romantic ideas, but just try talking romance to a Ukrainian girl and I can hear it now, "he not REAL man!" Man, you cant even show that you care for her at all! f**k that. Ukrainian girls loved my rugged and strong looks, when I went there I was hard as granite at 255lb. They were physically all over me, but I wasn't enough of an asshole for them. . . Wait, that reminds me of something or somewhere else, hmmm, American women! Hell, the problem isn't even America, its WHITE women. Something about modern culture is activating something deep down inside them. Because I've heard from too many old men who have sworn to me that women (white women) used to not be this way.


I took two trips to the Ukraine, and I honestly wasn't impressed by the women's looks. But I agree about the other stuff. If you're too nice to them, they'll lose all respect for you.
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:23 am

jtest28 wrote:ThePrimeBait is right. It's that men want white women and they become victims of wishful thinking. When I was in Ukraine, I did see some really young, teenish or 20 yo girls who were very conservative, though strangely, none older than that. Not near as many as I thought there would be though. The typical Ukrainian woman was in fact very good-looking, more so than I had ever seen in my life. I didn't even know women could look like that. But they were bitches, deep down. Sure, on the surface they were nice but just because their men make them be. I can't fathom bringing one back to the states though. I imagine as soon as she set foot on the ground, I would be running away from her as fast as I can!

And even if I were to move there, and I did LOVE it there, (not for the women though, just to be away from the US) but even if I moved there, I wouldn't want the average Ukrainian woman as a mate. . . You know, I think I've actually become racist toward white women. . . At least Fillipina women can understand some romantic ideas, but just try talking romance to a Ukrainian girl and I can hear it now, "he not REAL man!" Man, you cant even show that you care for her at all! f**k that. Ukrainian girls loved my rugged and strong looks, when I went there I was hard as granite at 255lb. They were physically all over me, but I wasn't enough of an asshole for them. . . Wait, that reminds me of something or somewhere else, hmmm, American women! Hell, the problem isn't even America, its WHITE women. Something about modern culture is activating something deep down inside them. Because I've heard from too many old men who have sworn to me that women (white women) used to not be this way.


I understand what you mean re Ukrainian, I have experienced it w/ a gf from Russia. She chewed me out for NOT being an asshole and bumping into someone...

But could you please give an example of the "romantic ideas" that the Pinays are down with?
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:27 am

theprimebait wrote:
Taco wrote:Russia has the highest divorce rate in the world, why would anyone want a Russian woman. I know a Russian guy that only dates Asian women.


most men are obsessed with white women.its only right if its white.the p***y is only good if its pink and pale.so they delude themselves that there is a mythical place out there with traditional white women,some posters here even claim ukranian/russian women stay virgins until their 20s,despite the numerous reports in russian media that most russian girls start sex at age 12.the average russian woman slept with more men in her teenage years than the most slutty american clubskank.

but they are so nice to me on russiachat..they MUST be feminine!
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they badly want a traditional wife,but they also oh so badly want a white wife.hence the delusion.

truth is Eastern European women are not traditional at all,they arent more feminine either,if you count putting on makeup and looking like a anorexic twig feminine then you can find that on any american college campus.

but these men would rather Reject a brown woman who IS virgin,who does SUBMIT,and who coms from a culture where this is the only reality,for a russian woman!

why?because if its brown its not good.

this my friend is why the delusions regarding EE women are everywhere on the net. older white men from the babyboomer generation that want a significantely younger girl that reminds them of their mothers .not realizing among white women,this doesnt exist [b]anywhere in the world except among the amish .[/b]



Good point.
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:29 am

ladislav wrote:
theprimebait wrote:
most men are obsessed with white women.its only right if its white.the p***y is only good if its pink and pale.so they delude themselves that there is a mythical place out there with traditional white women,some posters here even claim ukranian/russian women stay virgins until their 20s,despite the numerous reports in russian media that most russian girls start sex at age 12.
b\...ot realizing among white women,this doesnt exist anywhere in the world except among the amish .



In Ukraine, actually, if you get them younger as in 18-20, you will find many virgins particularly in the countryside/smaller towns. Not sure if they are the ones on those dating sites, though.



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Postby Tsar » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:51 am

Russian and Ukrainian girls are much more likely to be virgins from 15-18. Americans girls and British girls are the slutty ones. I have searched the statistics.

You mention that Russian and Ukrainian women don't want a man that is "too nice." Can you define how a man can be "too nice?"
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Postby Halwick » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:19 am

jtest28 wrote:ThePrimeBait is right. It's that men want white women and they become victims of wishful thinking. When I was in Ukraine, I did see some really young, teenish or 20 yo girls who were very conservative, though strangely, none older than that. Not near as many as I thought there would be though. The typical Ukrainian woman was in fact very good-looking, more so than I had ever seen in my life. I didn't even know women could look like that. But they were bitches, deep down. Sure, on the surface they were nice but just because their men make them be. I can't fathom bringing one back to the states though. I imagine as soon as she set foot on the ground, I would be running away from her as fast as I can!

And even if I were to move there, and I did LOVE it there, (not for the women though, just to be away from the US) but even if I moved there, I wouldn't want the average Ukrainian woman as a mate. . . You know, I think I've actually become racist toward white women. . . At least Fillipina women can understand some romantic ideas, but just try talking romance to a Ukrainian girl and I can hear it now, "he not REAL man!" Man, you cant even show that you care for her at all! f**k that. Ukrainian girls loved my rugged and strong looks, when I went there I was hard as granite at 255lb. They were physically all over me, but I wasn't enough of an asshole for them. . . Wait, that reminds me of something or somewhere else, hmmm, American women! Hell, the problem isn't even America, its WHITE women. Something about modern culture is activating something deep down inside them. Because I've heard from too many old men who have sworn to me that women (white women) used to not be this way.


Hmm....interesting. Despite the hype, it seems Russian/Ukraine women are no different than American women. Your comments re Ukrainian (and Russian?) women and their preference for asshole men confirms what I once saw. I have a co-worker who is married to a Russian woman. Nice, quiet unassuming guy at work, but when I saw him and his Russian wife at a party, he was rather strict, no-nonsense toward her. Not abusive, but like a strict, dominating father. She seemed rather compliant and accepted whatever he said. And did what he told her to do. He later told me you have to be an "asshole" to these women and keep them in line.

Here's a AFA profile of a 23-year old Ukrainian girl: http://www.loveme.com/women/info134861.htm
Her profile reads: " I am looking for a real man. I need a boss, if you know what I mean. I want someone who will make me obey him and who will make me the happiest woman in the world. I want my tiger to be strong and handsome but actually outer beauty means a little to me. You need to have a great heart to win me. I wish to meet a good man."

Is this what they really want in a man? A "boss"? What do you all think?
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Postby Cornfed » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:38 am

A positive interpretation of the attitude of EE females might be that they are post-feminists who have seen the devastating effects of men becoming mangina pussies and letting females devolve into horrible bitches, and so want to make sure not to repeat that mistake. It is a shame they are worthless sluts though.
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:42 am

Halwick wrote:
Hmm....interesting. Despite the hype, it seems Russian/Ukraine women are no different than American women. Your comments re Ukrainian (and Russian?) women and their preference for asshole men confirms what I once saw. I have a co-worker who is married to a Russian woman. Nice, quiet unassuming guy at work, but when I saw him and his Russian wife at a party, he was rather strict, no-nonsense toward her. Not abusive, but like a strict, dominating father. She seemed rather compliant and accepted whatever he said. And did what he told her to do. He later told me you have to be an "asshole" to these women and keep them in line.



They seem to need that, emotionally. Emotional security.


Here's a AFA profile of a 23-year old Ukrainian girl: http://www.loveme.com/women/info134861.htm
Her profile reads: " I am looking for a real man. I need a boss, if you know what I mean. I want someone who will make me obey him and who will make me the happiest woman in the world...."

Is this what they really want in a man? A "boss"? What do you all think?



Yup.

Not as easy as it sounds. They don't obey easily in my limited experience. Kind of need some drama.

Tsar wrote:
You mention that Russian and Ukrainian women don't want a man that is "too nice." Can you define how a man can be "too nice?"



Imagine a girl has been raised around thugs. She feels insecure unless she is with someone who can deal with the world forcefully, intimidating others.

If she is physically intimidated, that's romantic to her. She wants to be swept off her feet, literally. It's OK with her if you slap her face, if she earned it. She wants a man with a rock-hard soul.

That and a lot of roses, wining and dining, etc. They do love material things.

If you handle things right, btw, no foreplay is necessary.

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Perhaps JTest or others here with real FSU experience will weigh in with some examples.
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:46 am

Cornfed wrote:
A positive interpretation of the attitude of EE females might be that they are post-feminists who have seen the devastating effects of men becoming mangina pussies and letting females devolve into horrible bitches, and so want to make sure not to repeat that mistake. It is a shame they are worthless sluts though.



As you've posted elsewhere... as things melt down, women will come crawling.
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Postby Jester » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:57 am

Attorney at Large wrote:
I work internationally and know lots of men that shop in both markets with varying preferences. I've worked in Moscow for 6 months and the women were visually attractive but I thought they were too coarse and not very feminine....personally, I don't think I would want to date any Russian girl regardless of her looks. Plenty of Filipinas I would pass on to but there;s a decent number that have the looks and feminine and flirtatious manners that I am attracted to.



I really appreciate the feedback from guys like you who have dated on different continents.

I can live anywhere, but I can't live everywhere. It's the comparison that I look for.

Thanks.
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Postby Tsar » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:02 am

Jester wrote:
Tsar wrote:
You mention that Russian and Ukrainian women don't want a man that is "too nice." Can you define how a man can be "too nice?"



Imagine a girl has been raised around thugs. She feels insecure unless she is with someone who can deal with the world forcefully, intimidating others.

If she is physically intimidated, that's romantic to her. She wants to be swept off her feet, literally. It's OK with her if you slap her face, if she earned it. She wants a man with a rock-hard soul.

That and a lot of roses, wining and dining, etc. They do love material things.

If you handle things right, btw, no foreplay is necessary.

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Perhaps JTest or others here with real FSU experience will weigh in with some examples.


I could be strict and forceful but I don't think I could ever go as far as slapping. I am not a pushover.

I know that if I found my ideal girl I am sure that I could be forceful. I wouldn't be talked into buying things unless I felt it was reasonable or I was giving a surprise gift. I see in many televisions shows how women disrespect their boyfriends and husbands, and I wouldn't ever allow myself to be disrespected. I will tell her that either she respects me or she can leave (and I will make sure I have the power in the relationship).

I have also learned to not fear losing someone. If a girl wants to leave after everything then I would tell her to leave and never think about coming back or getting a second chance. In my opinion a girl would be replaceable and I would try to let her know that. So if she wants to leave she would be losing much more than I would.

I think that by getting a virgin it would create more emotional connections in her mind. Being the only one earning money would make her dependent upon her man's income. Keep her away from opportunities to cheat. Don't pay for her to have a car, one car would be enough for a traditional couple. Accompany her to any appointments. Give her surprise gifts if she deserves them. The man should make her know and learn how she needs him. In the West this would be a "control freak" but i think that a man must control his girlfriend/bride if he wants to keep her. A man that gives his girlfriend or bride too much freedom and letting her disrespect him reduces his power in the relationship. When a man shows his girlfriend/bride that he needs her more than she needs him, he forfeits all power in the relationship and she can do whatever she wants because she knows he needs her (for sex, companionship, or whatever). I have learned that love and a girlfriend/bride is replaceable. The only thing that is special or unique is the memories. There are many other girls I could find that would be acceptable replacements. I want companionship, love, and my ideal bride but at the same time I see it similar to acquiring the most precious object for my happiness. I would do everything to make it work. But if she doesn't appreciate what I do, respect me, and bring me happiness by being affectionate and cheerful then I would call her out on it. Flirting with another guy would be cheating. I would also make sure she doesn't get an iPhone or one of those internet, app phones. I see many girls using those phones and that's all they do. She could have her own computer but I would block sites and have administrator privileges. All dating websites would be blocked and I would have a keystroke monitor as insurance she isn't trying to cheat.

I won't be a mangina or a pushover. I would take power and use power. I would be considered a "control freak" in the Western World but I consider myself as a designer and creating order. I am traditional and will make sure there is control in a relationship. Without control there would be anarchy. I would not have anarchy in a relationship because anarchy can destroy a relationship.

When dealing with other people, I would fight back or be aggressive if it came down to it. I do not seek out confrontations with people but I wouldn't back down from a confrontation. My view is that I will enter into everything with respect, try to resolve most conflicts with diplomacy. When I do not get respect then I don't give respect.

Do I sound like I would be forceful enough?
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:14 am

zboy1 wrote:Anyone who thinks Filipinos are hotter than Russian chicks need to have their heads examined...


I concur.

Bane wrote:Personally, I don't see what the big deal is with Filipinas. I have never found them attractive in the least. Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Thai women, not to mention EE women, Latin women, Middle Eastern women, and African women are all much more attractive IMO.

Folks say that Filipinas have a great personality. OK, maybe so, but I'm reminded of a quote I heard from my good friend, "you don't f$%^ the personality." Trying to start a LTR without physical attraction is like trying to start a fire underwater.

Since I'm married, it's pretty much moot, but if I were still single, I would much rather take my chances in EE than waste time in the Philippines.


I don't either and I've been quite quite a few. I find them extremely irritating, even the ones who did look good. Every single one was a royal pain in the ass, I didn't find their sense of humor funny, and as Bane wrote, you don't f**k their personalities anyway!

I'll take Thai, Russian, and Colombians, along with many others, over Filipinas any day.
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