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Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to Russia, Ukraine, or the former Soviet Republics.
Grunt, do you have a reading comprehension difficulty? You clearly did not read what I wrote, and seem to be responding to an imaginary person. I suppose I should be upset about the remarks, but why should I care to see a straw man burning? Burn it all you want if it makes you happy.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world." -Ludwig Wittgenstein
You could end all this debate by showing us a webpage devoted to foreign men seeking American females. Or, a webpage for foreign girls seeking Russian men.
Sweep away all matters of opinion by doing so, kristine. Prove me as wrong as you say. Surely, it cant be that hard.
Just one webage is all I ask, and it will silence me forever. Otherwise we all get to watch you flail around hysterically. Thats kinda fun, too.
Sure. She is the most even-tempered, supportive, kind, warm, woman I've ever met. There is only a 6 1/2 year age difference between us. Like most older women she's had some difficult times adjusting to life in the USA and misses her home and friends very much. She will complete her AA Degree in Applied Science as an Medical Office Assistant in June. Not bad considering when she first arrived 6 years ago she could hardly communicate in english.
Exactly what kind of "suffering" are you referring to? We've all experienced ups and down on life's path. I'm fortunate enough to have far many more ups than downs.
I sure did! The key to success is to set reasonable expectations and follow your gut feelings. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
That's awesome! Good for her. I went to school for medical coding and billing, and now am studying to become a Registered Nurse. Nurses make $50,000+ in their first year, and can travel anywhere in the world. Would your wife maybe consider nursing in the future as well?
Just to bring this back to its original topic. I have never been to Moscow before but I have a friend who lives there.
I also think Russian women tend not to age very well. It's like a candle that burns twice as a bright but half as long. Of course that's a generalization as i'm sure there are some drop dead older gorgeous Russian women but it seems to be true from what I observed.
Honestly, if you're asian and reading this i'd recommend the western european nations and beyond all that various South American countries. I have several asian friends from various nationalities that have had good experiences in western Europe. Russia is xenophobic and racist..there's no doubt about it. I'd even group Ukraine and quite a few of the other FSU orientated nations into that.
I understand where the anti-Chinese sentiment comes from in Russia. When you're neighbors with a country it tends to boil over. It's fairly typical and Russia has always had uneasy relations with China.
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I agree Repatriate with your observations of Russia, having spent a year there. You describe things well. You ought to write a book or start a website too.
I don't think that Russians dislike Chinese just because they are neighbors. The Russians that live in Siberia near China tend to like Chinese people more, for instance. And the European countries that border Russia tend to view Russians negatively (e.g. Latvia, Lithuania). And not all countries that are neighbors have a rivalry (US and Canada don't) or animosity between them.
What have you heard regarding how Asian men do in England, France or Italy?
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Thanks for the compliments. I try but I think I ramble too much and have a propensity to state the obvious at times.
You're right it's more complex than that and i've done some reading about it in the past. The Russian government gets along very well with China and considers them an economic and political ally. As with any country it's the elite that really have a grasp of the bigger picture and control things. However, the normal everyday Russian seems to rely on what the media and pop culture dictates but the impression I got is that they are really just xenophobic in general. I remember when I talked with some Russians I met. They were pretty nice and curious about my experiences in the U.S. but when I referred to them as part of "Europe" they politely corrected me and insisted that their identity is only Russian.
This whole skinhead movement is coming from a serious surplus of disaffected youths who are unemployed and poor. They are easily recruited into similar gangs who all have political affiliation to various right wing movements in Russia. They are really just tapping into that greater xenophobia that Russia has always possessed. While it's true that the Russians closer to the border are probably much more open to Russian/Chinese business or social relations it's still uncommon. I'd say that Russia and China's relationship has always been sort of a segregated partnership.
You're right that many countries dislike Russians with a passion. I know Fins, Latvians, Lithuanians etc.. really dislike them. It's funny how this type of prejudice works.
It's a young man's scene really and you have to deal with the typical high maintenance western female stuff you see in the U.S. but their views on asians are different from the U.S.
Many countries in Europe..particularly the ones that don't have problems with the native asian immigrant population are very receptive to dating. I know quite a few Asian-Americans in France and Parisians of asian descent and they say it's a non issue. They may not like you if you're ugly or socially inept but it isn't because of your race.
I find western european prejudices are usually rooted in dislike for their native muslim north african and arab demographic. They have largely a neutral or impartial view of asians.
I'd say it's always better to live in a country where you belong to the top 5-10% income bracket.
Additionally, if you're relatively educated, cultured, and attractive, then it definitely helps when the average local male competition is uneducated, uncultured, and not very attractive.
How you stack up vis a vis local male competition and your relative socioeconomic status in a new land goes a long ways towards determining your popularity and success with the ladies.
For most guys, this means they'll do far better in Eastern Europe (taking Russia out of the equation for now) than Western Europe. You'll pull higher than your pay grade as they say.
I know that might jar with the feel-good stories Hollywood pumps out about love being blind and all that, but that's the simple truth.
On the other hand, being different, for example an educated, cultured, and attractive Asian-American male in an open-minded Western European city should still be enough to get you some interest.
But this is going to really depend on your personal situation, who you know, what circles you run in, and how you approach the opposite sex.
Sorry to bring this topic back up seeing how the last post was in July.
But seeing how I also fit under "Asian" (Filipino....yeah yeah, you might be wondering why not go to the Philippines? I have my reasons.... LOLOLOL)
How does one fair like myself in other Eastern Euro countries? So far I'm only reading mainly about Russia under this thread, but how about other countries say... Ukraine? Or Hungary? Or even Belarus? I would hate to come to this countries to be severely disappointed!
The Grass is greener on the other side! =D
I am from China's Northeast, close to Siberia. I have seen a lot of white Russian women in China's Northeast. In fact, some of them are born and raised in China and speak perfect Chinese!!!
Wanted to get back on topic...having read all 6 pages thus far...as an Asian American Male, I would consider myself relatively successful, relatively attractive (lucky enough to clear 6 feet) and socially capable (no problems courting caucasian women in the great state of Texas)...what eastern european countries should I target from a search strategy perspective?
Not looking for a bride like some of the members active on this thread, but just wanting to meet and potentially date the "creme-of-the-creme"
Except that Russia and China are both extremely powerful, while Finland, Latvia, and Lithuania are a joke in terms of power COMBINED (you can even throw in a few other anti-Russian countries), and their anti-Russian sentiment would seriously hurt them without the overt and covert backing of the West. Especially since Russia is almost single-handedly propping up the economy of almost the entirety of Europe these days!
its funny you would say this because a friend of mine who lives in the uk told me if i came to moscow that i would get laid alot and that i would have a good time