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Toe In The Water

Discuss culture, living, traveling, relocating, dating or anything related to Latin America, Mexico, or Central America.

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Re: Toe In The Water

Postby Jester » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:54 am

Taco wrote:


Don't worry, a massive SHTF event is coming soon, you'll never want to come back to California. Also, take all your money out of your US bank account(Mexican ATM Machine) once you get down there. The US markets will crash this fall but the real "party" won't start until next year. I just left a few months ago, a move I will not soon regret.


Thanks. That's my rough assessment as well. Bring Romney in so Bubba will buy into it all... when they close the straits of Hormuz, oil is $400 per barrel, gas is $12 per gallon, "viper" teams are on the interstates to enforce ride-sharing, and to search for Mexican illegals lacking new mandatory ID's, and to search for guns.

I can't tell you how hard it is to get out of here. Resistance from everyone. Feels so f***ing alone. And I am someone who is used to teamwork, joint effort etc. - a failing of mine. So going against everyone's opinion, I find like trying to sprint though waist-deep molasses.

i know you're in the Phils... what do you think of my plan to use Mexico as a first step? Any regrets per your comment on fschmidt's thread?

Taco wrote:The most polite people overall would be Filipinos, they will politely lie to you and cheat you any chance they get.


At the risk of hijacking my own thread... How come you chose Phils over Latin America, anyway?

I do have some connections for use of address etc.... and in case of any problems... also have connections in Thailand, Armenia, etc for legal, citizenship... Don't want to use connections though, prefer to save them for a rainy day... Plus I'm good at making friends anywhere, what the hell...

MX and Phils seem like the best non-Anglo non-euro places to just show up easily and do business easily i think... With appropriate permissions and "endorsements" of course...

I know MX is CIA/narco influenced, no illusions there...
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Postby Falcon » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:18 pm

Jester wrote:From this thread:
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... 4403#94403

royaldude wrote:i live in central mex, most of central mex has great weather states like guanajanto, michoacan, guerro, jalisco as long as your not right on the coast.
you can see weather conditions year round on weatherbase.com


Thanks

Based on climate, currently considering:

Jalisco
Lake Chapala/Ajijic (too many old Amricans including AW?)
Guadalajara (real city; good internet "latency" time to U.S.)

Oaxaca
Oaxaca (too primitive?)


Guanajuato

Guanajuato (pedestrian city)


Michoacan

Morelia (met a stunning and intelligent girl from there)

I welcome any input.



I have been to all of those places. Cuties lining up for me in Oaxaca, gf in Michoacan, best buddies in Guanajuato, and more buddies in Jalisco. We should talk more after I get back from China. :wink:
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Postby Jester » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:14 pm

Falcon wrote:
Jester wrote:From this thread:
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... 4403#94403

royaldude wrote:i live in central mex, most of central mex has great weather states like guanajanto, michoacan, guerro, jalisco as long as your not right on the coast.
you can see weather conditions year round on weatherbase.com


Thanks

Based on climate, currently considering:

Jalisco
Lake Chapala/Ajijic (too many old Amricans including AW?)
Guadalajara (real city; good internet "latency" time to U.S.)

Oaxaca
Oaxaca (too primitive?)


Guanajuato

Guanajuato (pedestrian city)


Michoacan

Morelia (met a stunning and intelligent girl from there)

I welcome any input.



I have been to all of those places. Cuties lining up for me in Oaxaca, gf in Michoacan, best buddies in Guanajuato, and more buddies in Jalisco. We should talk more after I get back from China. :wink:


Definitely. Here in Glendale, at an Armo place, my treat. Or maybe down South.
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Postby Jester » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:17 pm

Headed south tonight, to TIJ.

My mood is improving already!
"Pick a point and go to it."
-- Dr John Hunsucker, speaking about canoeing on Georgia's Lake Lanier, with its irregular shape, and 1000 miles of meandering shoreline
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Postby Jackal » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Good luck, Jester! Your plans sound good!

I am sure you'll succeed at learning Spanish if you're motivated!

The key to succeeding in any foreign country is making friends with the locals because they will tell you all the important local information and can just be fun to be with.

Buena suerte amigo! :D
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Postby royaldude » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:04 pm

jester i wouldnt bother with the f3 visa unless you want to work for a mexican company. also its easier to get in mex. once you get a place here and have utility bill you can show and also have certain amount of money in bank they will give you one here. i dont bother i just do border runs every 180 days and get fresh tourist visa. if i were you i would rethink selling real estate unless you are very fluent because you would be dealing with mexicans selling there place to gringos so fluency would help. i would also recommend central mex because the climate is like springtime year round so you save on aircon or heating.
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Postby Jester » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:23 pm

Jester wrote:Headed south tonight, to TIJ.

My mood is improving already!


Back after midnight last night.

Mexico es un como un sueno -- like a dream. Not everything is perfect, but from everything -- you learn.
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Postby Jester » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:39 pm

Jackal wrote:
The key to succeeding in any foreign country is making friends with the locals because they will tell you all the important local information and can just be fun to be with.

Buena suerte amigo! :D


Muchas gracias amigo!

I it is so true. Stayed with a family in a tiny cute casita in a gated little colonia, as I was unloading the car, a neighbor approached asking or a favor. Ohshit, I thought, he's going to ask for money. Nope. Needed help with a difficult English lesson.

Young mamacitas con ninos in mexico seem to assume a tall gringo estranero is a sex tourist. But once you are known to be with a local, they are open and friendly.

Nice people, noone there is uptight about sounding cool. People are just who they are, so you can also be likewise. GOD that is different from L.A., where being embarrassingly uncool is worse than death.
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Postby Jester » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:15 pm

royaldude wrote:jester i wouldnt bother with the f3 visa unless you want to work for a mexican company. also its easier to get in mex.

I know you're right on this. Still, it was easier than expected at the consulate.


royaldude wrote:once you get a place here and have utility bill you can show and also have certain amount of money in bank they will give you one here.

Just curious -- what amount?


royaldude wrote:i dont bother i just do border runs every 180 days and get fresh tourist visa.

I know what u mean. But I do not like the USSA guvmnt, and it's mutual. I hope they ease off, so I can always visit freely.


royaldude wrote:if i were you i would rethink selling real estate unless you are very fluent because you would be dealing with mexicans selling there place to gringos so fluency would help.

True. A real estate agent DOES have to communicate with the seller. Lousy Spanish would only work for selling properties owned by developers or other gringos.

Very good point actually. Kind of helps me choose where to go! Developers who speak English - or gringos ready to sell. Interesting.


royaldude wrote:i would also recommend central mex because the climate is like springtime year round so you save on aircon or heating.

Fully agree. TJ was ridiculously hot. Thinking of Ajijic. Where do you suggest?
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Postby Jester » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:55 pm

Jester wrote:
All_That_Is_Man wrote:Jester, I see that you've been rethinking to previous decision to "stay put." :lol:


Yeah, flip-flopping like a fish. Kinda embarrassing!
:oops:


Still easy to second-guess myself. I was just down there, and though fun, still, nothing is as nice as my life up here. Up here I live in the perfect place, in the perfect part-Armenian immigrant-friendly upscale city in Southern Cali.

Everything is perfect here.

Except that I live alone.
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Postby royaldude » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:24 am

ajjic is full of retired people most areas around lake chapala are. the only plus is its got great weather but everything will be more expensive as many retired americans live there. i dont know how old you are but im young and dont have a lot in common with 70 yr old retired couples. so i would never move there.

about the us govt. THEY HAVE TO LET YOU IN. if your american crossing the border they will let you in. last time they saw my passport every page practically used up. they asked what i do. i told them i dont work. they didnt like that answer so they put me in a little room searched my stuff. i didnt give in they keep asking what i do for work i said i dont work. but once they search you they let you in. it sucks but it was only 5 minutes. not a big deal for the priviledge of living in mexico. also travel by bus is not bad in mexico very comfortable bus lines and far cheaper than flying. for utility bill it doesnt have to have to be a set ammount it just verifies you live in mexico.

btw tijuana is a shit hole ask any mexican its not very indicative of the rest of mexico. i love mexico but i would never live in tijuana
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Postby royaldude » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:28 am

for the money in bank i havent dont this but my understanding is show you have more than 1-2 thousand for like 3 months in your checking account
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Postby royaldude » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:33 am

to live
Jalisco
Lake Chapala/Ajijic (too many old Amricans including AW?)
Guadalajara (real city; good internet "latency" time to U.S.)

Oaxaca
Oaxaca (too primitive?)


Guanajuato
Guanajuato (pedestrian city)


Michoacan
Morelia (met a stunning and intelligent girl from there)

these states are good but also have smaller towns you could live

pull up list of mexican cities in wikipedia from there figure out how big of a city you want
then check on the climate www.weatherbase.com to verify if its the weather you want

as a rule further south you go in mexico more indeginous the look of the women so keep that in mind. dont know what type of girl your into
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Postby Jester » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:03 am

royaldude wrote:ajjic is full of retired people most areas around lake chapala are. the only plus is its got great weather but everything will be more expensive as many retired americans live there. i dont know how old you are but im young and dont have a lot in common with 70 yr old retired couples. so i would never move there.

I want to be around guys who are still chasing bucks and skirts. Friends I have something in common with. Not ready to sit on the porch. Maybe Ajijic ain't it then.

royaldude wrote:about the us govt. THEY HAVE TO LET YOU IN. if your american crossing the border they will let you in.

I know that, was just referring to maybe not coming back to U.S. if they increase the level of TSA travel controls, random ID checks, etc. I am pretty sure they would knock on my door if they tried martial law. Anything worse than things are at present, and I will not come back at all.

royaldude wrote:last time they saw my passport every page practically used up. they asked what i do. i told them i dont work. they didnt like that answer so they put me in a little room searched my stuff. i didnt give in they keep asking what i do for work i said i dont work. but once they search you they let you in. it sucks but it was only 5 minutes. not a big deal for the priviledge of living in mexico.

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Postby Jester » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:09 am

royaldude wrote:
as a rule further south you go in mexico more indeginous the look of the women so keep that in mind. dont know what type of girl your into


slender legs (the long kind) with a round bubble butt, big or small, and wide hips. older people call this "dancer's legs". two women I fell for have run hurdles - athletic but not rough, toned legs, well-developed glutes. cup size B preferred, but A or C ok. basically northern european / mediterranean face and body, but dark skin is okay.
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