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Why people emigrate

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Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 24th, 2016, 12:46 pm

A new report by InterNations Expat Insider shines some light on the profile of South African expats, why they leave the country, and how happy they are abroad.

South Africa is the 49th top expat destination (out of 64), showing that it is seen more as an expat source country, rather than a destination country.

Alarmingly, the general profile of the South African expat shows that around half are skilled employees or managers – and a quarter identify as being in top management positions.

This is far higher than the global average of 11% – a trend also seen in the representation of academic professionals who are leaving – 16% versus the global average of 9%.
According to InterNations, 70% of South African expats are generally satisfied with leaving the country, with only 13% feeling dissatisfied with their decision.



http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/96613/why-south-african-professionals-are-leaving-and-are-happier-for-it/

But many come back due to the dead life in the west

Hundreds of thousands of whites left South Africa following the ANC's landslide election victory in 1994. Twenty years on, the exodus shows signs of slowing, even reversing. Jane Flanagan spoke to some of those who have returned.

Nicky and Craig Irving spent five years in Australia before moving back to Cape Town with their three daughters.They were among the last members of their respective families to emigrate amid fears over the crime wave that swept South Africa during the 1990s.

But after five years in Sydney and on a farm five hours drive from the city, the Irvings had had "enough of living in a sorted society".
They decided to return home and help tackle some of the challenges that had prompted them to leave South Africa in the first place.
"We could have decided to stay in Australia which, as people kept telling us, was a safe place for our children, but we decided to come back and try and make South Africa a safer place for all its children."

"It was more that we wanted them to have the kind of childhood that we had enjoyed - running barefoot, being outdoors."

Lifestyle is one of the top three reasons given by white South Africans for deciding to go home, along with family connections and "a sense of belonging",

Ms Jones describes it as a "genuine feeling of being alive" that South Africans do not experience in new lives overseas, whether it is Britain, Australia or New Zealand.

"There are so many opportunities to be involved in other people's lives in South Africa in a way that you don't find anywhere else," she enthuses.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307


10 things South Africans miss about this country when they’re abroad


The heat of a real wood fire. A BBQ is not a real braai.
The smell of a thunderstorm
The sound of Babel - that you can actually understand
Being able to be completely alone in nature
A hot, summery Christmas holiday
To be able to say 'shame' all the time
Being able to hear a pin drop when watching the rugby in a crowded room
The joy of saying 'sorry' for everything
To be able to speak to strangers on the train. It's so easy to strike up a conversation with South Africans, especially when you're sitting next to them on a bus or train.
The happy, nay, expressive people

http://traveller24.news24.com/Explore/UltimateBraaiMaster/10-things-South-Africans-miss-about-this-country-when-theyre-abroad-20150919
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Citizen » October 24th, 2016, 2:38 pm

People emigrate because they are forced out by thieves and murderers (currently occurring in Syria), they are themselves thieves (Dutch Ukrainian farmers) or they created a sh*t hole and have to flee (South Africans).

Those who steal from God are all being destroyed. God is life. There is only one God. The thieves are just parasites. No reason for parasites to exist.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Russian1860 » October 24th, 2016, 3:20 pm

Kradmelder wrote:The heat of a real wood fire. A BBQ is not a real braai.

Yes, that’s truth. Australians are mostly used to electric grills. Thus meat doesn’t soak with smoke and misses the real taste and flavor of braai. It is the same as to fry a meat on the stove. They just do it outside. I wonder the reason of such stupidity.

Kradmelder wrote:
10 things South Africans miss about this country when they’re abroad

The heat of a real wood fire. A BBQ is not a real braai.
The smell of a thunderstorm
The sound of Babel - that you can actually understand
Being able to be completely alone in nature
A hot, summery Christmas holiday
To be able to say 'shame' all the time
Being able to hear a pin drop when watching the rugby in a crowded room
The joy of saying 'sorry' for everything
To be able to speak to strangers on the train. It's so easy to strike up a conversation with South Africans, especially when you're sitting next to them on a bus or train.
The happy, nay, expressive people


Regarding emigration, 99% of people are used to emigrate for the sake of better life. By the way, did you notice that all of 10 things listed in your article are called nostalgy, not patriotism? How do you think, are expats less patriots than compatriots, who stayed in their home country?
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 24th, 2016, 3:39 pm

Russian1860 wrote:
Kradmelder wrote:The heat of a real wood fire. A BBQ is not a real braai.

Yes, that’s truth. Australians are mostly used to electric grills. Thus meat doesn’t soak with smoke and misses the real taste and flavor of braai. It is the same as to fry a meat on the stove. They just do it outside. I wonder the reason of such stupidity.

Kradmelder wrote:
10 things South Africans miss about this country when they’re abroad

The heat of a real wood fire. A BBQ is not a real braai.
The smell of a thunderstorm
The sound of Babel - that you can actually understand
Being able to be completely alone in nature
A hot, summery Christmas holiday
To be able to say 'shame' all the time
Being able to hear a pin drop when watching the rugby in a crowded room
The joy of saying 'sorry' for everything
To be able to speak to strangers on the train. It's so easy to strike up a conversation with South Africans, especially when you're sitting next to them on a bus or train.
The happy, nay, expressive people


Regarding emigration, 99% of people are used to emigrate for the sake of better life. By the way, did you notice that all of 10 things listed in your article are called nostalgy, not patriotism? How do you think, are expats less patriots than compatriots, who stayed in their home country?


Family and people that emigrated to Australia complain they can't braai as you are not allowed open fires. You need a permit from the fire dept. WTF, There are rules for everything. Speed traps everywhere. It is a full on nanny state. People that come back to SA from OZ just want to braai,

There is no more patriotism here. The new SA means nothing to me. The flag means nothing. The govt less than nothing. Just corrupt thieves. The old SA people were patriotic for. Not even the blacks are patriotic for this new SA. You would go to the army in the old SA because it was your land, your nation, your fatherland. It is not anymore. No it is just the physical land and culture. The current government, no.

Nostalgia for life in SA sums it up because life in western countries is cold, impersonal and lacking in hospitality and basic manners. No one cares for anyone else. That is why you see the attitudes for wanting to leave the west, like on this forum, and rather go to third world country where values are different. SA white culture is very much more open and willing to help each other, although western inroads since 1994 have been for the worse.

Citizen, it was not whites that made the shit hole that people leave from. It was the liberals who voted for this 'democracy' due to pressure from europe and america and from jews. The communists only put military pressure which we could resist. The ones doing the current stealing and crime and nation wrecking proportions are the same blacks america, europe, and the communists wanted in power. The big difference, is that many south africans come back because the west is a bigger shit hole. Will a syrian go back to syria, or a black american to africa?

Unfortunately God is not destroying these parasites. There were only 8 million blacks in 1950 and nearly 5 million whites. Thanks to the christian charity of whites in feeding them and treatng them there are now 50 million blacks.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Mr S » October 24th, 2016, 4:17 pm

Isn't living in South Africa as someone with European heritage pretty much just going down with the ship? I don't see how Europeans can survive or at least be successful there in the long run unless a number of them can ban together and create their own country that bans Africans from living there permanently under any circumstance.

Even though Anglo English countries have been overrun by other races and cultures and there are potential long-term issues for people with European decent, at least it's feasible ones offspring could have a better future there than in South Africa or other parts of Africa. I'd even look at white majority countries in South America as potential better places to live such as Argentina, Chile or Uruguay. Although I don't feel Eastern Europe and Russia will fall prey to the internationalists global scheme of introducing Africans/Middle Easterners & Central Asians to their countries, their geopolitical location has always been a long-term issue of survival due to wars going on in the regions on a consistent basis. At least in the larger Anglo countries in Australia/USA/Canada, there are still remote pockets one could move to to escape 'multiculturalism'.

I've listened to numerous interviews concerning South Africa on Red Ice radio, the present and future of SA doesn't look too great. Although it seemed like a great place when whites were running the show and provided proper law & order, where all races succeeded one way or another as long as they played the game, it seems with Africans running the country everything that was good about the country built by whites is just going into the shitter.

Just a sampling of some Red Ice Radio shows focusing on SA:

https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/lethal-weakness-of-altruism-europe-overrun-and-south-africa-s-extreme-unrest

Lethal Weakness of Altruism: Europe Overrun & South Africa’s Extreme Unrest
Sep 14, 2015
Dan Roodt is an Afrikaner author, publisher, and commentator who studied at the University of the Witwatersrand and the University of Paris VIII. He is the co-founder of the website and publishing company PRAAG (Pro-Afrikaans Action Group). Roodt is also the author of numerous books and publications, and his latest essay, “Raiders of the Lost Empire,” examines South Africa’s “new” post-apartheid English identity.

Dan joins us for a discussion about the immigrant invasion crisis in Europe and South Africa’s dismal state of extreme social unrest and violence. In the first hour, Dan describes the major issues plaguing the Afrikaner population of South Africa, where the current government’s hostility towards White Afrikaners has created a full-blown clash of civilizations. Dan details the so-called Africanization of South Africa being exhorted by the ANC, which seeks to eradicate the Afrikaans language and prevent Whites from mutual inclusion in the country they founded, funded and developed over the past 350 years. We discuss the mass migration out of Africa that is quickly altering the demographics of the Western world and bringing with it the economic weight of a 2 billion strong population severely lacking in productivity and capital. Then, we get into the left-wing cultural Marxist revolution that has stigmatized Western history as racist and White supremacist while elevating Africa as the cradle of civilization. We look at the lethal weakness of European altruism that is ultimately welcoming the takeover of its lands by foreign invaders while programming its own citizens to take blame for the faults of the world at large.

In the members’ section, we consider why only European Nations are being targeted to absorb the colossal outflow of migrants from the Middle East and Africa. Dan underscores the media’s role in shaping the cultural and moral framework of European peoples in a way that vilifies and undermines their legacy and best interests. Further, we look at the vindictive actions of South African journalists that perpetually cast a negative light on the Afrikaner population. Later, we get into the misgivings of technological advancement – the flip side being a sad decline in the ability and common sense of modern consumers. Dan talks about the reality of Afrocentrism imposed upon Whites in South Africa and mimicked in Hollywood. We end with ideas for creating a true counter culture of people who are interested in the preservation and survival of traditional European values.

https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/the-real-story-of-south-africa

The Real Story of South Africa
Sep 7, 2015

Karin Ann Smith is an expat South African living in Texas. She studied Nursing at Grey's Hospital in Pietermaritzburg and worked in the Casino industry and for the biggest supermarket chain in South Africa, both upper management positions dealing with the Unions. She has been an activist calling for world attention to the genocide of the Boer people in South Africa for at least 10 years. Her family fled the civil war in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and eventually settled as farmers in South Africa, where her family of 5 siblings and both parents have suffered attacks by AK47 wielding gangs twice in the last 3 years, resulting in the death of her father last September. Karin talks about the history of South Africa during the days of the Dutch East India Company when the Cape of Good Hope was developed. She explains the early clash of the nomadic Boors and the African Zulu Nation along with the British colonization of the mineral rich region. We discuss the 1948 establishment of the Republic of South Africa by the National party, when apartheid laws were instituted as a way to maintain the peace between the minority White Afrikaners, the ruling Boers and warring indigenous Black tribes. Karin explains the political interests of the African National Congress (ANC) and underscores the track records of its communist faction, Joe Slovo, and the founder of the Armed Wing, Nelson Mandela. She also gives details related to the slow decline and decimation of the once predominately White South Africa, where taxpayer dollars cannot support the globalist takeover of a country lacking viable commerce from its majority population. Karin highlights some of the post-apartheid sanctions instituted by the ANC, along with the bigger picture of hatred towards Whites that has been stirred up by the ANC and their allies, the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), led by Julius Malema. We consider the unique situation of present-day South Africa, where the reality of its brutally anti-White environment is strangely left out of any mainstream global report. We discuss the dire circumstances of Afrikaner squatter camps and government edicts that keep White citizens jobless, uneducated, and under the constant threat of illness and violent crimes against them.
Relevant Links

safrpsa.org
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Battle of Blood River
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https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen/the-truth-about-south-africas-rainbow-nation

The Truth About South Africa's Rainbow Nation
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Oct 14, 2016
Tags: anti-racism anti-White apartheid Cultural Marxism South Africa violence against Whites White genocide White interests

Clare is a lawyer from South Africa, who works for a geographical information systems firm.

We begin by discussing Clare’s background and upbringing. Having grown up during apartheid, Clare witnessed firsthand the dramatic effects that followed its abolition. She tells us that the stories of White-on-black violence during apartheid are largely exaggerated, and that most violence in South Africa was, and continues to be, black-on-black. Clare describes how her misgivings with multiculturalism and equality began once she realized that affirmative action was something indefinite, rather than temporary. We discuss how an unofficial apartheid continues to exist in South Africa; in fact, racial integration only occurs through direct government interference. This, of course, reveals an important truth: people prefer being around their own kind. Shifting gears, Clare tell us what it’s like to be White in contemporary South Africa. We learn that, although nearly all Whites are affected, they are afraid to speak out and be labeled “racists” – for such an accusation, as in other White countries, will generally spell the end of one’s career. The show also touches on early South African history, racial differences, and the state of White identity in this troubled nation.

https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen/the-truth-about-south-africa

The Truth About South Africa
Feb 4, 2015
Monica Stone joins us to speak about the subject of White Genocide in South Africa. She works with the website southafricaproject.info and also the Living Waters Foundation. Monica is committed to spreading awareness about the rape, torture, murders, and the genocide of the White South African people. We begin with a quick history lesson on South Africa, a region that was completely open in 1652 when members of Dutch East India Company arrived and settled the Cape of Good Hope, where they brought agricultural knowledge, science and math education, established public schools, property rights, boundaries, and human rights. Monica describes how things went terribly wrong, beginning in the 19th century, when the British took over the Dutch East India Company. Wars ensued in this period, which coincided with the discovery of gold, and many Afrikaners fled the area to escape suppression. Monica explains the current state of governmental affairs, a reign by the ANC that has led South Africa down a path to destruction since the end of apartheid, with the clear purpose of eradicating all Whites from the country. We look at the influx of immigrants saturating the area for the past 20+ years, putting extreme pressure on a fragile infrastructure that is not being properly maintained and bringing in more crime and racial tension. Monica tells about the rampant, deep-seated hatred for Afrikaners that has resulted in over 85,000 murders since 1994, along with an epidemic of the rape and torture of countless innocent people. Monica gives examples of what it is like living in a country where it is against the law to defend yourself against even the most unspeakable crimes. We discuss why these abysmal conditions have gotten to this point and why none of the Afrikaners’ White brothers and sisters in the West are stepping up to help. Also, we take a look at the real players running the show in the ANC, a narrative that is being controlled by the Zionist media and is almost identical to that of the US. We end with some thoughts on what it will take to turn this seemingly hopeless situation around and how the people of South Africa, Europe and the US can band together to keep from being drowned by the treason running deep in all White countries.

https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen/radical-antiwhite-marxism-in-south-africa

Radical AntiWhite Marxism in South Africa
Mar 16, 2016
Tags: anti-White Marxism South Africa

Amelia Raath is an Afrikaner of Dutch and German descent, born in South Africa and currently residing in Bloemfontein in the Free State. Amelia obtained a BA degree in Fine Arts at University of the Free State, specializing in Drawing and Painting, and then earned a certificate in Health Coaching from The Institute for Integrative Nutrition.

Amelia is with us to offer her perspective on the social climate of South Africa and illustrate the conditions that influenced her awakening to the White genocide agenda. We begin with a glimpse into Amelia’s upbringing at an Afrikaner Christian girls’ school and an all-girls university. She talks about her struggles with finding sustainable employment opportunities and how her derailed state of health led her to a major lifestyle change and the pursuit of a career in health coaching. Amelia discusses her “waking up” and the rediscovery of her ancient Germanic and Nordic roots, along with the realization of the deep brainwashing that teaches Afrikaners to hate their own race. We talk about the lies and double standards instilled at liberal universities that endorse ethnic cleansing of Whites and reinforce the distorted push for affirmative action. Amelia details some of the protests and chaos instigated by disgruntled blacks on campuses in South Africa, and she describes how the media continually portrays White supremacy as the culprit for the deficiencies of the African majority. Furthermore, we look at the culture clashing tactics of the Economic Freedom Fighters, along with the racially prejudiced policies of the African National Congress, which together yield an impossible climate for Afrikaners to defend their existence in post-Apartheid South Africa. At the end, Amelia shares some inspiration for Europeans to honor their diverse and remarkable cultures, and she highlights some key ingredients for strong and balanced health.
Relevant Links

ameliaraath.wordpress.com
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher, 121-180 A.D.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Mr S » October 24th, 2016, 4:34 pm

Unfortunately, Whites are too caring and helpful and will help other cultures and nationalities survive over their own. Europeans generally take more time to breed and their offspring to mature than Africans. Looking at archeological evidence Whites managed to spread themselves to Western China in the past but they weren't able to genetically compete in the long run with the Chinese genetics which as we all know can breed like mice. they eventually got over run and died off or interbred with the Asians in the region back then, it's all documented in the mummies they found in the region along the silk road. Same in Africa. Africans have/had higher death rates to keep that higher birth rate in check and those that did survive were stronger and more fit to survive to carry on their genes to the next generation.

Now bring European science and healthcare to Africa the natives start breeding like rabbits but they don't have the higher consciousness and intelligence to properly control their sky rocketing birth levels and use it to some kind of social advantage to improve their own peoples and land. No, they wreck havoc on wherever they live then now over running Europe. If there ever was a technological crash how many could actually survive a proper European winter? Whites could survive Africa with some adaptation but I highly doubt blacks would fare as well in Europe if everyone was thrust back to pre-industrial age technology. Our modern day global society is propping up many of these other nations and cultures and it's only a matter of time before the house of cards falls on everyone, whether you are black, brown, red, yellow or white. The races were meant to remain separate within their designated regions around the world, not mixed together. Sure trade and visitations would occur, but each race/society needs it's own homeland or all of humanity eventually suffers and the great RESET eventually happens again as so many times in the past....
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Wolfeye » October 24th, 2016, 5:54 pm

Kradmelder: Holy shit! There's 50 million blacks in South Africa? Didn't you say there are only 5 million whites there? That sounds ominous.

I agree with you & Mr S about how the whites would bolster other cultures (not necessarily hospitable ones, either) & blow off their own. Totally fucked-up. I know all kinds of shit about things white cultures have done, but for f**k's sake- the same color people are the ones that currently have problems with it & would keep an edge without acting like psychopaths with it.

I'm hoping to get to Eastern Europe before Christmas & am hoping this turns into a permanent residence. A BIG part of it is that I'm looking for the social traits you mentioned about South Africa. Anyone able to give me an overview on any of the culture traits over there?
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby zboy1 » October 24th, 2016, 11:33 pm

People should migrate to places where they will be treated better. That's obvious! Whether that be Whites in African countries, Jews in Arab countries (so they emigrate to Israel), etc.

What I don't understand is why Asian men move to Western countries when it's better for them back in Asia? Asian men are treated horribly by both White and Black men alike in Anglo countries.

Another thing: If Blacks in Europe and America whine about racism, I don't understand why they can't go back to their ancestral homelands (Africa) and rebuild their countries into thriving economic powerhouses like Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.? Remember, parts of Asia used to be worse off than many African countries such as South Korea. It took people who returned to their native lands to remake Asia into becoming the economically important region like it is now.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Wolfeye » October 24th, 2016, 11:52 pm

Blacks don't generally seem to be like that. I think it's an ego thing, personally.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 25th, 2016, 2:57 pm

zboy1 wrote:People should migrate to places where they will be treated better. That's obvious! Whether that be Whites in African countries, Jews in Arab countries (so they emigrate to Israel), etc.

What I don't understand is why Asian men move to Western countries when it's better for them back in Asia? Asian men are treated horribly by both White and Black men alike in Anglo countries.

Another thing: If Blacks in Europe and America whine about racism, I don't understand why they can't go back to their ancestral homelands (Africa) and rebuild their countries into thriving economic powerhouses like Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.? Remember, parts of Asia used to be worse off than many African countries such as South Korea. It took people who returned to their native lands to remake Asia into becoming the economically important region like it is now.


Blacks migrate back to Africa and build something...bwahahaha!! Never have blacks built anything or created any economic power houses although Africa sits on rich resources. Even when they kicked out whitey and nationalised the resources they could do nothing. No Black would choose to go back to Africa if you offered to pay his return. He needs to feed off whitey.

European and Asian cultures consider a work ethic a virtue. A successful man works hard and takes pleasure from his work. In african culture success means not working. Idleness and obesity are considered virtues as it shows you don't work. A successful African man has many wives, is totally idle and fat.

That is the big difference. When Asians got rid of white colonialism, the asian work ethic allowed them to build economies. When Africans got rid off whites they got rid of the bosses who made them work, and they did nothing, hence their nations collapsed. Asians can survive without whitey, although they need whitey's consumerist societies to sell asian goods. Africans can't produce anything, so they need whitey to carry them.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 25th, 2016, 3:09 pm

Mr S wrote:Isn't living in South Africa as someone with European heritage pretty much just going down with the ship? I don't see how Europeans can survive or at least be successful there in the long run unless a number of them can ban together and create their own country that bans Africans from living there permanently under any circumstance.


What you describe is Apartheid. It worked and the nation prospered. Whiteys in america and europe didn't like it.

Even though Anglo English countries have been overrun by other races and cultures and there are potential long-term issues for people with European decent, at least it's feasible ones offspring could have a better future there than in South Africa or other parts of Africa. I'd even look at white majority countries in South America as potential better places to live such as Argentina, Chile or Uruguay. Although I don't feel Eastern Europe and Russia will fall prey to the internationalists global scheme of introducing Africans/Middle Easterners & Central Asians to their countries, their geopolitical location has always been a long-term issue of survival due to wars going on in the regions on a consistent basis. At least in the larger Anglo countries in Australia/USA/Canada, there are still remote pockets one could move to to escape 'multiculturalism'.


White minority is coming to america within a generation, and to western europe not long after. London is already only 44% white. So what we have have is coming your way. What is to be gained but some time by relocating? Maybe for a generation at most. But at least here the young generation is growing up learning to survive as a discriminated against minority. They learn to band together. Growing up soft in america won't help them.

Paraguay is a destination for south africans who can't get european passports or aussie papers.

I've listened to numerous interviews concerning South Africa on Red Ice radio, the present and future of SA doesn't look too great. Although it seemed like a great place when whites were running the show and provided proper law & order, where all races succeeded one way or another as long as they played the game, it seems with Africans running the country everything that was good about the country built by whites is just going into the shitter.


America and europe have a bleak future as well. Better the devil you know.....I think I would rather face darkies than the muslim invasion.

All the articles you post are common thinking in SA. But white people must survive somehow. These days by using our brains, a weapon lacking in the black armoury.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 25th, 2016, 3:18 pm

Mr S wrote:Unfortunately, Whites are too caring and helpful and will help other cultures and nationalities survive over their own. Europeans generally take more time to breed and their offspring to mature than Africans. Looking at archeological evidence Whites managed to spread themselves to Western China in the past but they weren't able to genetically compete in the long run with the Chinese genetics which as we all know can breed like mice. they eventually got over run and died off or interbred with the Asians in the region back then, it's all documented in the mummies they found in the region along the silk road. Same in Africa. Africans have/had higher death rates to keep that higher birth rate in check and those that did survive were stronger and more fit to survive to carry on their genes to the next generation.

Now bring European science and healthcare to Africa the natives start breeding like rabbits but they don't have the higher consciousness and intelligence to properly control their sky rocketing birth levels and use it to some kind of social advantage to improve their own peoples and land. No, they wreck havoc on wherever they live then now over running Europe. If there ever was a technological crash how many could actually survive a proper European winter? Whites could survive Africa with some adaptation but I highly doubt blacks would fare as well in Europe if everyone was thrust back to pre-industrial age technology. Our modern day global society is propping up many of these other nations and cultures and it's only a matter of time before the house of cards falls on everyone, whether you are black, brown, red, yellow or white. The races were meant to remain separate within their designated regions around the world, not mixed together. Sure trade and visitations would occur, but each race/society needs it's own homeland or all of humanity eventually suffers and the great RESET eventually happens again as so many times in the past....


Whites altruism does work against us. 100 years ago whites and blacks were in equal numbers in SA. By 1950 there were over 4 million whites and 8 million blacks. Now we are still under 5 million but only 8-9% of the population. It is not that blacks are breeding more, bu are surviving more due to white medicine, food and whites stopping them from exterminating each other. All whites have done is create more enemies for their grandchildren. They will never be grateful for what whites brought. Without whites their lives would be short and brutish; few would reach adulthood and most dead by 40. It is the same as blacks in the ghetto in the USA; the highest cause of death is other blacks. Take away welfare and white medicine and they would die out.

If whites didn't colonise africa, asians would have. The chinese would not have been so kind. They would have worked them and starved them.

It is time the white man rather started looking after himself, only employ your own, only by from your own, give nothing to other races. Once they collapse and try come over the walls to take from whites, consider it an armed invasion and declaration of war and act accordingly.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Cornfed » October 28th, 2016, 8:39 am

Kradmelder wrote: Citizen, it was not whites that made the shit hole that people leave from. It was the liberals who voted for this 'democracy' due to pressure from europe and america and from jews.

But wasn't that the inevitable result of relying on nigger labor rather than just getting rid of them? As the saying goes, South Africans are people who would rather be murdered in their beds than make their beds.
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Kradmelder » October 28th, 2016, 9:19 am

Cornfed wrote:
Kradmelder wrote: Citizen, it was not whites that made the shit hole that people leave from. It was the liberals who voted for this 'democracy' due to pressure from europe and america and from jews.

But wasn't that the inevitable result of relying on nigger labor rather than just getting rid of them? As the saying goes, South Africans are people who would rather be murdered in their beds than make their beds.


Ja there was a strong line of thought that apartheid wasn't severe enough. There should have been more segregation. No blacks living in white areas as domestics. Total separation. Except that idiot white liberals wanted the blacks to vote. Those white liberals voted to end apartheid then promptly emigrated to avoid the consequences of their vote.

Farkin idiot liberals. One only had to look north to see the consequences of black rule.

The USA is doing the same. Whites are a majority yet you still elect a Kenyan goat herd as president, and now that jew owned ugly heifer will be voted in thanks to the white vote. I was stunned that white south africans would consider negotiating with the dead terrorist Mandela, just as I am stunned americans voted in that grinning 'shuckin and jivin hustler' darkie desecrating your white house and making a mockery of america. Like WTF is wrong with people. Every other group votes for their race or interest group. Why not white people?
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Re: Why people emigrate

Postby Wolfeye » October 28th, 2016, 4:55 pm

A thing I think you're all at least somewhat missing is that white people have variations- including being assholes that strategically f**k things up. I know it's KNOWN that this is possible, but I think it's a factor that hasn't been mentioned in this discussion.

To give a serious example from my own life: There was never really a "Good Wolf vs Bad Wolf" philosophy, always a "Bad Wolf vs Good Sheep" philosophy. This created A LOT of problems. One especially detrimental one is that people weren't counteractive to tragedy & travesty- not in the sense of being destructive toward things like that & frequently not in the sense of bolstering things that were not like that. Attached to this was that it was almost like prowess, in the broadest sense, was considered predatory, in the "Bad Guy" sense. So, for all purposes, any situational alignment that could generate a positive situation or circumvent a negative one was off-limits.

YET, these same people are always talking & seemingly always thinking about terrorism, home invasions, child abuse, spousal abuse, getting robbed, getting shot, getting kicked-around at work, and basically fawning over the military. So they obsess about combative things, but never really approve of most alignments, attempts, or accomplishments toward fight-related things. Doesn't even have to end with someone getting killed, just having a folding knife on you can be "too much" for a lot of people. Keep in mind, those are the people that will likely be on your jury whether or not you actually did something to land in court.
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