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Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by MrMan » May 7th, 2018, 9:55 am

Winston wrote:
November 15th, 2008, 10:34 am
Hi all,
Momopi told me recently that most dateless men in America will not consider going abroad, that's why this site doesn't appeal to most people, even if its message and claims are true.

If that's so, then why are most dateless men in the US unwilling to go overseas? Any theories or explanations?

I thought wanting to travel was part of human nature?
This post was back from when I joined the forum. I'll share my guesses and opinions.

In the US, it seems like there are a lot of people who don't really care much for living overseas. Some don't want to even travel overseas. It seems like some people think the US is the best country in the world and much of the rest of the world is poor, people sitting out in the hot sun starving while flies go up their noses and plant larvae like they used to show in videos of starving kids in Africa to raise funds in the 1980's.

Going overseas is scary for a lot of people. The ancestors of a lot of white Americans were pioneers, but after several generations, people can become rather settled. Traveling abroad to date, work, etc. is too adventurous for a lot of people.

There are also practical issues. Some men may think women in their own countries are difficult enough, and that overcoming cultural and language difficulties would be difficult. There is also the practical issue of dating a woman so far away. If a long distance relationship is hard with a woman who lives a couple of hours away, dating a girl in Russia, South America, or Asia might be even more difficult.

There are also people who view going overseas to find a wife from a poorer country (e.g. a white finding a Filippina) in a negative light, like all the women over there just want to get a Greencard and move to the US. Either the woman is seen as scamming the man for a Greencard or else the man is seen as taking advantage of a poor girl who doesn't really want to marry him, but choose to do so to rescue herself from living in some lousy place that is not the US.

Another reason is that a lot of men do not realize some of the problems with their own culture. They watch movies where women being independent and not submissive is seen as a positive thing. They may not have experienced the upside to women having a more traditional, submissive attitude. They may not appreciate the idea of marrying a virgin, or a woman coming from a culture where divorce is heavily frowned upon. They may not appreciate a woman being trained as a little girl or as a teenager to cook, clean, and take care of the home. Some cultures instill a very positive attitude in women toward getting married, having children, taking care of their husbands, cooking, etc. The culture in the US does not value these things as much. If a woman decides to be a housewife, she is looked down on. There are also cultures where women do all kinds of work but also value taking care of the home and having a family. I think a lot of American men are just ignorant of these things that are largely absent from US culture, and so they don't appreciate the value of finding a wife from abroad. I am not saying that women who value such things do not exist in the US or other western countries, but they seem to be a smaller percentage than in some other countries.




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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by MrMan » May 7th, 2018, 10:28 am

MrLee4u wrote:
May 4th, 2018, 9:54 pm
Well duh, these internet forums are a magnet for mentally ill losers. The dating scene actully favors men in the USA if you do the research.

http://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/why- ... rs-men-usa
Someone posted a video recently that showed that the northeast had more single eligible women than men, but on the west coast, there were more single, eligible men than women. The man said that he was shocked to see a woman come up to a group of men and offer on behalf of a group of women to buy them drinks.

Your argument is about educated men. Not all men have college degrees. If women with degrees outnumber men, that means there are a lot of men without degrees who these women with their degrees (including in such things as women's studies) may not want to date.

And the many of the eligible women could be 200 pounds with lots of tattoos and piercings.

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by MrLee4u » May 7th, 2018, 7:47 pm

Horahngee wrote:
May 7th, 2018, 4:38 am
MrLee4u wrote:
May 4th, 2018, 9:54 pm

Well duh, these internet forums are a magnet for mentally ill losers. The dating scene actully favors men in the USA if you do the research.

http://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/why- ... rs-men-usa
Then why do you come here to post on HA if you think this forum is for losers?

The dating scene favors what kind of men? If you're a white guy, then yeah, the odds are not stacked against you. So it depends on what racial group the male is from where the dating scene is stacked against you.

This is why I am really surprised that there are a lot of western white guys who travel abroad to places like SE Asia to find a wife.
It's occasionally good for a good laugh from all the overgeneralizations and western white guys crying about women because they are total losers with zero brains :lol:
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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by SteveUKR » May 7th, 2018, 7:51 pm

Yeah and you are brilliant. Probably with nothing yourself.

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by MrLee4u » May 7th, 2018, 7:58 pm

MrMan wrote:
May 7th, 2018, 10:28 am
MrLee4u wrote:
May 4th, 2018, 9:54 pm
Well duh, these internet forums are a magnet for mentally ill losers. The dating scene actully favors men in the USA if you do the research.

http://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/why- ... rs-men-usa
Someone posted a video recently that showed that the northeast had more single eligible women than men, but on the west coast, there were more single, eligible men than women. The man said that he was shocked to see a woman come up to a group of men and offer on behalf of a group of women to buy them drinks.

Your argument is about educated men. Not all men have college degrees. If women with degrees outnumber men, that means there are a lot of men without degrees who these women with their degrees (including in such things as women's studies) may not want to date.

And the many of the eligible women could be 200 pounds with lots of tattoos and piercings.
So? Go out and get an education/degree! I was just visiting a friend at UCLA and hot chicks were everywhere!

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Like I said before, these internet forums are magnets for mentally ill losers :lol:

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by SteveUKR » May 7th, 2018, 8:19 pm

Those are hot? They look chunky monkey

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by zboy1 » May 8th, 2018, 2:00 am

Going overseas takes a lot of planning and commitment. I'd suggest going to places where the culture fits your personality, but your race can have a factor, too.

I meet some unhappy White and Black expats in Asia because the locals tend not to accept them and consider them to be 'foreigners.'
Asia also tends to attract more inward, shy types because that is what is normal behavior in this part of the world. On the other hand, when I
was in Europe, I met many 'intellectual' types who appreciated European culture and lifestyle.

I'm guessing Latin America would be a better fit for those who like to party and can speak some Spanish or Portuguese.

In the end, it will take a lot of balls to go abroad, but you will look back with pride and gain a lot of confidence during the process.

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by Horahngee » May 8th, 2018, 9:45 am

MrLee4u wrote:
May 7th, 2018, 7:47 pm


It's occasionally good for a good laugh from all the overgeneralizations and western white guys crying about women because they are total losers with zero brains :lol:
Oh, I see. Hahaha. :lol:

On the other hand, you have posted photos of a group of girls at the ucla campus.

Those are sorority girls in the picture, if I'm not mistaken. THey tend to be slutty, so if you're into casual flings, then those blondies in your first two photos are good for only flings/sex, nothing more.

The lone girl walking with her backpack in the last photo,...well...... she looks kind of chubby and bleh, not too pretty. :cry: No thanks. :D

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by MrMan » May 8th, 2018, 1:11 pm

Horahngee wrote:
May 8th, 2018, 9:45 am
MrLee4u wrote:
May 7th, 2018, 7:47 pm


It's occasionally good for a good laugh from all the overgeneralizations and western white guys crying about women because they are total losers with zero brains :lol:
Oh, I see. Hahaha. :lol:

On the other hand, you have posted photos of a group of girls at the ucla campus.

Those are sorority girls in the picture, if I'm not mistaken. THey tend to be slutty, so if you're into casual flings, then those blondies in your first two photos are good for only flings/sex, nothing more.
That's kind of racist against those of Germanic and Scandinavian descent.

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by Yohan » May 8th, 2018, 1:53 pm

zboy1 wrote:
May 8th, 2018, 2:00 am
Going overseas takes a lot of planning and commitment. I'd suggest going to places where the culture fits your personality, but your race can have a factor, too.
I meet some unhappy White and Black expats in Asia because the locals tend not to accept them and consider them to be 'foreigners.'
This is somewhat the fault of the 'foreigner' not willing to integrate and feeling 'race discrimination' everywhere outside of the States.
Europeans are a bit more flexible in such situations.

BTW, I hear similar arguments about Muslim immigrants who are entering the Western world.....
Such people are unfit to live outside their own community and should better stay in their own countries.

In Japan and also in Thailand I met foreigners who after arrival were immediately complaining about all and everything, and those coming from USA tried to 'teach' locals, what is wrong with them and why everything is so much better in the States.

What kind of reaction do you expect from locals in such a case?

In Japan many of such guys and grrls of any age and any race (feminists, religious bigots, moralists etc.) are gone soon, as they are running out of money.

I never had such problems in my life - in Asia I am clearly a foreigner if you look at me, I look differently, my native language is different and I am quite happy with that. I am not interested to 'integrate', to 'transform myself' but I do not complain about the life-style of locals either.

My experience so far is that it is not about 'being a foreigner and not being accepted' - it is more about being a foreigner, be aware of that you are a foreigner, be patient and stay for a longer period of time at the same location.

I am using since many years - in both countries, Japan and Thailand - the same medical doctors, the same shop for my motorcycle, the same places for buying my food, the same gas-station, restaurants, laundry shop and so on and local people around me remember me immediately and know who I am when they see me.

This is not always the case among the Japanese and Thai people themselves, they look similar and forget quickly about people they met a while ago.

Did I face discrimination? Well, not all Asian locals are friendly towards foreigners, but it was really rare during my 4 decades in Asia. A few times only and it always happened at places where I never expected such a behavior against me. - What to do in such a case? Just smile, take it easy, say bye and go away to the next place...

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by zboy1 » May 12th, 2018, 3:07 am

Very true, Yohan.

The expats who tend to be successful abroad are due to several reasons as you mentioned. Some bits of advice an old White expat I met in Thailand once told me:

1) Try to learn the local language.
2) Respect the local culture.
3) Don't be a whiny, sensitive and complaining foreigner. Doing this makes the local people dislike you greatly.
4) If you face discrimination, just move on. ...
5) Always be polite, even if some locals are not. If you don't, you'll likely end up in a conflict (and you'll never win in court or from the police, because they will always support the 'local' over a 'foreigner.'
6) Make friends with the locals. Don't be like the typical expat who only hangs out with other expats.
7) Avoid hanging out with other expats and foreigners too much, because they will end up warping your mind--and you'll constantly hear them complaining about things way too often.

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Re: Most dateless men won't consider going abroad? Why?

Post by GuyAbroad8293 » May 19th, 2018, 10:33 am

Winston wrote:
November 15th, 2008, 10:34 am
Hi all,
Momopi told me recently that most dateless men in America will not consider going abroad, that's why this site doesn't appeal to most people, even if its message and claims are true.

If that's so, then why are most dateless men in the US unwilling to go overseas? Any theories or explanations?

I thought wanting to travel was part of human nature?
i think most white men are "racist" in the sense that they only want white women. Going abroad in their minds means going for brown and asian women, which doesn't interest them.

You gotta understand that most white men are basically not very intelligent and just blindly go along with society. So they never even think of the alternative of leaving America.

Most men are also cowards, and leaving their birth country takes a lot of courage.
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