Atheist, don't want to marry, and don't want kids. Hopeless?

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WakingUp
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Atheist, don't want to marry, and don't want kids. Hopeless?

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I am in a bit of a predicament.

I will likely be able to expat to a Latin American country in the next 6 months. I have Mexico and Costa Rica in mind, but still need to research other places.

I want a steady girlfriend...but no kids or marriage. And I'm an atheist.

Is there any hope of finding someone who can live with that?

The stereotype I know of is that they all want marriage AND kids. But I'm not sure how accurate that is.

If anyone can offer advice or perspective, I'd be grateful.

Thanks.


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Yup, Pretty much you'll be considered DOA to most women there once they know your true perspectives on life and family. You're only going to find other Atheists in Godless first world societies for the most part, and usually amongst the higher educated. If you take into consideration you are already in the minority amongst those countries, it will be near impossible to find like minded females in 2nd or 3rd world countries. If you do find any they would be within the educated elite minority and I'm pretty sure you won't be hanging out with them anytime soon over there.

Best thing to be is a liar and pretend you're into God and the whole family thing then once she has found out your ruse you can just dump her and start again with another one. You can also try to find a young one that is still mentally malleable and suggestive, but unless you have a good command of her own language, getting her to change her original social and cultural programming will be near impossible. You can do this to a certain extent in the Philippines since most women speak at least rudimentary English and once they fall for you you can kinda mold them to what you want them to be if you are willing to put the time and effort into doing so.

BTW, I think it's much easier to be Atheist or Agnostic in Asia than it would be in Latin America and South America.
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You xhould definitely have a vasectomy NOW.
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Re: Atheist, don't want to marry, and don't want kids. Hopel

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WakingUp wrote:I am in a bit of a predicament.
I will likely be able to expat to a Latin American country in the next 6 months. I have Mexico and Costa Rica in mind, but still need to research other places.
I want a steady girlfriend...but no kids or marriage. And I'm an atheist.
Is there any hope of finding someone who can live with that?
The stereotype I know of is that they all want marriage AND kids. But I'm not sure how accurate that is.
If anyone can offer advice or perspective, I'd be grateful.
Thanks.
This depends on your definition of "steady girlfriend", as a life-long partner or as a kitten that you adopt when it's small and cute, and as soon as it grows to a cat you toss out the door and get another kitten?
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Post by colibri »

The sterotype is right , ( i mean im 25 and i do want to marry and form a family lol )u might find a mid twenties thirty girl with this idea of no having marriage or kids posibbly a woman focus in her job or carrrer , but to tell the truth i bet they secretly want this marriage-kids ideal sooooo... ur chances are narrow im sorry , about religion i dont think is much of a problem though :P.


im telling u this because i ve met and heard of couples who suposedly where toguether under ur ideal and by the pass of the years the girl started regreating of not having a baby , so they split after many years of being toguether
This is my view on Mexico perhaps in costa rica might be diferent.

And by liying of ur true intencions u will only gain the hate of a woman , she will reclaim you later of why are u asking for a steady serious relation that will end to nothing (waste of time) .

Good luck
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Post by Billy »

oh i am in the boat with waking up. hey please, vasectomy sounds like they are doing something brutal. i don´t like the idea.
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Re: Atheist, don't want to marry, and don't want kids. Hopel

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WakingUp wrote:I am in a bit of a predicament.

I will likely be able to expat to a Latin American country in the next 6 months. I have Mexico and Costa Rica in mind, but still need to research other places.

I want a steady girlfriend...but no kids or marriage. And I'm an atheist.

Is there any hope of finding someone who can live with that?

The stereotype I know of is that they all want marriage AND kids. But I'm not sure how accurate that is.

If anyone can offer advice or perspective, I'd be grateful.

Thanks.
I am an American who lives part of the year in Mexico, and I have lived in more than one part of the country so I can tell you how things work down here.

Mexican atheists who don't desire children do exist; however, they tend to be found predominantly among the middle-class, university-educated crowd who also tend to hold very left-wing political views. Your best bet to find a woman who you described is to look among the women who identify as socialist, and to look in one of the two largest cities (either Mexico City or Guadalajara). Outside of these areas you will have very little luck finding a woman as you described.

You also will be required to know Spanish, since these women often have a very anti-American way of thinking and look at learning English as learning the language of the imperialist power. You will be required to denounce the United States at every opportunity and basically declare the United States to be the greatest evil that has ever befallen the planet. I don't know if you're American, but if you are, she probably will outright reject you just for being American and want a more "classy" European man.

Conclusion: there are maybe 100 women at most in the entire country of Mexico who meet your requirements and will also be willing to date an American.
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Post by Anti-American »

Ginger wrote:
terminator wrote:You xhould definitely have a vasectomy NOW.
ASAP.
Yes

I don't have kids and don't want them. I have a vasectomy. I'm a black atheist.

From my understanding of Latin America. Atheist women that don't want kids would seem to be more common in Argentina, Uruguay and Chile. Since those three have strong European influence. Argentina is consider the most European country outside of Europe.
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Post by WakingUp »

All, thank you very much for your responses. They're all very helpful.

I am pretty disappointed to see my suspicions confirmed, but I will have to live with it and make the best of the women that I do meet. Certainly focusing my search will help - thanks a lot for the specific info. re. countries and demographics.

I might be able to fake the religion thing in order to make her happy ("oh yes, we must be soul mates..." :lol: ).

I do plan to have a vasectomy very soon.

Also, I have a thing for milfs (30-40). Perhaps the older women won't have a problem with not having kids, considering how young they often have them.
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Post by All_That_Is_Man »

Coming to a Latin American country as an atheist is not very wise. For general acceptance from the natives alone, you want to have some religion (even if you have to lie). You might consider staying true to your beliefs, but setting your sights on other countries that are more aware that life is possible without seeking freebies from an invisible giant.

(And no, I'm actually not an atheist myself.)
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Post by ladislav »

You may want trade being an atheist for being a Buddhist- there is no God in Buddhism, it is very much like quantum physics only in folkloric terms.
If you are into older women as in 35+, most do not care if you marry them or not.
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