Landmark Forum - Cult?

[PeterAndrewNolan]

My concern is huge number of people who had mental breakdown, its safe to assume many came close to it...

Dude....I have PERSONALLY assisted on about 6 forums in one role or another....at 200 people a piece that would be at LEAST 1,200 people I have PERSONALLY seen do the forum. I have been to about 12 or 15 tuesday night session and god knows how many introductions I took people to.

NO ONE HAD A MENTAL BREAKDOWN.

Indeed, I was one of the people who used to call people to help prepare people for doing the forum. Some of the questions we would ask are "are you on any specific medication now?" "are you seeing a mental health specialist?"

If people were on any medication stronger than pain killers for some specific injury or seeing mental health professionals we would advise them that the forum was not appropriate until they were well. We would advise them that on the morning of the forum you would be asked these questions and if you answered yes you would be asked to please leave and come back when you are well and offered a fill refund.

Indeed, when I did it in 2000, being WELL KNOWN to the forum leader of the day, when asked if on medication I put my hand up as I was on pain medication for two slipped disks. David Miles, who was the forum leader, actually picked me to talk to as an example. He already knw my situation so I knew he was using me as an example. He asked what medication was I on? What was my injury? Why did I feel it was still ok to be here? What was I planning to do to take care of myself and my injury during the forum etc.

The message to the rest of the people was "if you are injured and have specific medication then it is up to you to be responsible for yourself". I knew David Miles very well as I assisted on one of his forums.

So..Landmark Education is fine...indeed it is MUCH less confronting now than what it was 17 years ago....17 years ago there was a lot more "in your face" kind of confrontation that I really LOVED as it worked really well for me. Others said I must be a "masochist" for standing up and talking with the forum leader so often.....but I really enjoy it....same for the other classes.....I really like the forum conversations and I do not feel confronted or upset AT ALL.....everyone else are just pussies...that's all.

So I recommend you go do it...you will not regret it.

[MrPeabody]

How much does the Forum cost these days? You have to consider whether your money is better spent elsewhere. I can’t recommend it, however I seriously doubt it is going to hurt you. One thing you may consider is the link below to Ajahn Brahm. He is located somewhere in Australia and is becoming one of the most respected Western meditation teachers in the world. If I lived in Australia, I would pay a visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USC5MJVZLy8


http://www.ajahnbrahm.org/about.html

[lavezzi]

i was severely attatched to my korean ex gf, when she left my ego was destroyed and because i had already awakened just prior to meeting her, our relationship seemingly was all that my ego was attatched to.

Oh...that would be the SAME woman I told you would dump you? LOL!! You are such an arrogant stupid young pup.

peter, i said from the start that she would be going home eventually, that is the only reason we're broken up. perhaps you should have dished out cash for a landmark workshop on memory rather than sex, as it would appear youd have gotten much more use out of it.

these 'breakthroughs' are not any kind of new thing. any man or woman can achieve it. al one has to do is stop listening to others who are indoctrinated into the system and start questioning each and every aspect reality for yourself. thats the message ive been trying to spread here recently. be your own person and you will be awakened. by all appearences landmark teaches you to follow like a sheep. im not certain this is the case but ive seen similar groups before who are under the illusion theyve developed some unique formula even though its clearly rehashed ideas. the people who follow it then cling to a tiny band of ideas thinking thats what spirituality is, when it works differently for each person. you have to find it for yourself.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

peter, i said from the start that she would be going home eventually,

I can not be bothered about looking up the post to quote it....but I seem to remember you making some comments about how you two talked about being together over the long period......

And GF??? Don't make me laugh.......you were no more than a passing interest. An object of entertainment while she was in Ireland. Don't over-rate yourself. I know what a passing interest looks like....that is what I have been doing in all but one case these last 5 years! LOL!!!

[lavezzi]

How much does the Forum cost these days? You have to consider whether your money is better spent elsewhere. I can’t recommend it, however I seriously doubt it is going to hurt you. One thing you may consider is the link below to Ajahn Brahm. He is located somewhere in Australia and is becoming one of the most respected Western meditation teachers in the world. If I lived in Australia, I would pay a visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USC5MJVZLy8


http://www.ajahnbrahm.org/about.html

ive watched that guy before on youtube. from what ive seen, he seems to only scratch the surface and is more for people who are just interesting in adding a little bit of buddhist wisdom into their daily lives. those who teach unassigned spirituality are much more effective i would say, rather than monks such as he who are trained to preach in a way that speaks to every day people, rather than spiritual seekers.

[lavezzi]

peter, i said from the start that she would be going home eventually,

I can not be bothered about looking up the post to quote it....but I seem to remember you making some comments about how you two talked about being together over the long period......

And GF??? Don't make me laugh.......you were no more than a passing interest. An object of entertainment while she was in Ireland. Don't over-rate yourself. I know what a passing interest looks like....that is what I have been doing in all but one case these last 5 years! LOL!!!

why not gf? it was a very good relationship. it just happened to have to be cut short due to circumstances. it was a passing interest only because of that. i always knew staying together would be impossible.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

these 'breakthroughs' are not any kind of new thing. any man or woman can achieve it. al one has to do is stop listening to others who are indoctrinated into the system and start questioning each and every aspect reality for yourself. thats the message ive been trying to spread here recently.

Yes...that is the message you have been spreading....it just happens to be wrong. Yet you are so arrogant and so stupid and so full of yourself that you present information that I happen to know is WRONG and you will not listen to someone who is FAR wiser, FAR older, FAR more experienced and so much more intelligent than you that you really do occur like a talking rock to me.

You spouting off about what YOUR opinion is is very much like a five year old trying to explain the theory of relatively using building blocks. It can be quite cute and entertaining for a while but eventually it has to be stated that it is a five year old and they are building blocks and the kid has no real idea what he is talking about at all.

And as much as the five year old will proclaim loud and long "I know what I am talking about" the truth is he does not and most five year olds are not ready to hear the truth.

In case you do not know...most male children do not know they are children.

Most males do not realise how ignorant and stupid they are. We do not realise this until AFTER we notice how ignorant and stupid we are.

One of the most important lessons in Landmark is the lesson that we actually know ALMOST NOTHING...and given we know ALMOST NOTHING it would behoove us to listen and learn from those who know better.

So...since 1995....rather than being an arrogant young pup like you? I have spent the last 17 years taking the position that I know almost nothing and if someone puts something in front of me or I go seaching for something then I listen because I might just learn something. And I have learned a great deal over these last 17 years.

One of the things I have learned is that most men are stupid dumb animals who are useless eaters who really should be killed off to make way for more men like me and John Rambo. Honest men of honour and integrity. Arrogant little twats like you SHOULD be killed off because you will never amount to a hill of beans. You are too stupid and too useless.

You arrogantly think that you have something worthwhile to say when what you are saying sounds like "ga, ga, gagagaga, ga, ga, ga"

What you say sounds like babbling of a baby because that is essentially what it is. Your mothers and your school teachers told you "everyones opinion is equally important, everyones opinion should be heard, everyones opinion is valid"........crap...most people have shit for opinions and it shows.

I stopped and tried to help young men like you. And you are too stupid to even know the value of that help.

So enjoy your police state. Enjoy your slavery. You did not lift ONE FINGER to help me stop the introduction of a police state into YOUR COUNTRY. So you deserve to be oppressed...and then you deserve to die. And I will shed no tear for a stupid dumb animal useless eater like you.

[lavezzi]

what you are saying sounds like "ga, ga, gagagaga, ga, ga, ga"

What you say sounds like babbling of a baby because that is essentially what it is.

peter, i am amazed. that is exactly what i have been attempting to implicate with my recent postings; all words spoken or witten are essentially babbling noises. only when we take them to have inherently real meaning in themselves does mental confusion onset. im extremely surprised you were able to understand, seeing as your 1000+ other posts consist of nothing but self serving, biased opinions, bragging about your job and other illusory acheivements, and showing how you are clinging to conspiracy theories to the point of hoping theyre true just so you can be right and others wrong.

[Renata]

ive looked at it breifly after PAN (RIP) was spewing about it

What happened to PAN?

PAN I was actually wondering where u were too ... lavezzi I though u meant he was a gonner

[PeterAndrewNolan]

For those who want to listen? I created a reference for the Landmark Forum.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

ive looked at it breifly after PAN (RIP) was spewing about it

What happened to PAN?

PAN I was actually wondering where u were too ... lavezzi I though u meant he was a gonner

Well none of the guvments are willing to act against me....so that is something very positive, eh!

All they are doing is continually slandering me. Tax dollars at work.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

seeing as your 1000+ other posts consist of nothing but self serving, biased opinions, bragging about your job and other illusory acheivements, and showing how you are clinging to conspiracy theories to the point of hoping theyre true just so you can be right and others wrong.

This is why I think it is perfectly ok if you are killed by the Illuminati. To call me self serving is a joke.

Now, since young men like you clearly do not want to live in freedom and do not want to educate yourselves, I am back doing my regular job. Every time a young man dies from suicide in divorce? You will have his blood on your hands. After all. You are so stupid and so arrogant that you can not recognise a good man helping other men. You project on to me your own selfishness.

You clearly have no idea what a man looks like who is a man who is committed to assisting other men. You obviously do not see one when you look in the mirror.

[Jester]

This sort of forum is kind of a cult too hehe

must....

....worship....

........... Lord Winston.........

[Billy]

peter why don´t you give me your money as obviously i am the one who will be the coming king of the world and you have the honor to serve me