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S_Parc wrote:Dave, instead of picking on men, who mind their own business (using the aegis of my *blanket world plan* for anti-postmodernism requires a minority target), how about pointing that lens on Lesbians? Lesbians/Bi-sexuals are 15-40%, Gays are capped at 10%.

The lesbian contingency has made Northampton MA, an unlivable place for heterosexual men. Men are regularly harassed and treated like outsiders there. I'll never set foot in that town ever again, since my Brazilian ex-GF and I were treated like criminals by the butch dykes, who were upset that they couldn't stick their silicon dildos in her, while chopping off my biological member.

On the other hand, the South End of Boston and Provincetown MA, the two main gay communities in MA, are hospitable and decent places to be. Everyone there is polite and congenial. If the South End didn't border some so-so neighborhoods, it would probably be a really safe, upper middle class hang out. Such is the life in an urban locale.
Well I'm really talking about homosexuality in general, gays and lesbians alike. I'm not talking about upper middle class gays who live clean lives and are generally decent people with reasonable values. That's not the same as gays in the Castro district for example or the radical pride parade types. Even the original article I posted mentions this: "Although it seems to work alright for some, your wild and crazy personal life does not make for a good societal model."

Like what Mr. Peabody said.
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fschmidt wrote:How many enemies do you want? Everyone here agrees that liberals and feminists are enemies. But many here would throw in homosexuals, Jews, blacks, whites, Hispanics, Muslims, and maybe a few more I missed. I think it makes sense to focus on the real enemies. As I mentioned earlier, Hitler lost the war because he attacked both the Left and Jews. If he had focused on the real enemy, the Left, he would have won.
I'm no different. The Left was the overarching order which most Jews (Non-Orthodox) subscribed to. I target the Left's philosophy, Post-modernism. It's a matter of semantics. Gays have an inordinately large influence for their size as a population. The answer I propose isn't to murder them in a holocaust, but to lessen their influence on wider society or restrict their influence to specific fields like precise sciences. Or like Ladislav said, help them overcome their homosexuality with treatments like testosterone therapy. Besides, at least the Jews excel in things like science. The gays? They hardly contribute anything. What I'm saying is, when attacking a philosophy or political position or cultural trend, it's hard to ignore the most obvious manifestation of that trend. Thus the Jewish Problem, which of course I think should have been handled differently.
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abcdavid01 wrote:Gays have an inordinately large influence for their size as a population. The answer I propose isn't to murder them in a holocaust, but to lessen their influence on wider society or restrict their influence to specific fields like precise sciences. Or like Ladislav said, help them overcome their homosexuality with treatments like testosterone therapy.
Why don't you tell us your practical solution? Seriously, everyone just complains but no one offers practical solutions. (Except those who just want sex, their practical solution is to go abroad.) Today I was banned from a Christian forum by some modern Christian bitch moderator. I prefer an atheist gay over a modern Christian (or modern Jewish) bitch any day of the week. I would accept anyone into my Act Biblically group who is serious about morality regardless of race, sexual preference, or any other factor. There just aren't that many decent people in this world to begin with.
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You've suggested before a belief in the "Great Man" theory of history. I don't buy into that. Certainly there have been Great Men like Edison or Da Vinci, who might as well have been a time traveller. Nevertheless, I place greater emphasis on cultural trends and the reactions of whole societies. Even the Great Men "stand on the shoulders of giants." I'd further argue that they stand upon the whole historical record and the culture they are a part of. What I am saying is that my forecast for the next several decades is a decline of support for things like Feminism, Gay Rights, Abortion, etc. whether or not some great leader emerges to solidify the trend into a movement.
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I'm not sure what the "Great Man" theory of history is. What happens is that there are cultural trends, and during periods of instability, individual men can change the course of history. Hitler and Moses are good examples. Right now there isn't instability, so nothing much will change. There will probably be a major economic crisis within a decade, and then things become unpredictable. There is no way to predict what will happen to feminism. Feminism can be maintained until a society completely collapses. Byzantium under Justinian wasn't in great shape and was very feminist. The Roman Empire was very feminist while it declined.

Anyway, I think trying to change society is pointless. The practical solution is to organize alternative subcultures, and that is what I am actively trying to do.
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The Great Man theory is basically the idea that it is great men like Hitler or Moses or Edison or Da Vinci who set the course for history. I disagree because while some men are certainly very influential, they must emerge from an existing culture. We've already had an economic meltdown that was narrowly averted. With Leftism controlling the debate we have chaos in many forms just waiting to explode. America is in decline. The future is already bubbling beneath the surface. Our hatred of Feminism is a sign of what's to come after any number of Leftist failures ravage society. For now though, creating subcultures to ride out the storm certainly makes sense.
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lone_yakuza wrote:To attack liberalism is to attack one of the few groups/ways of thinking that attempt to push racial equality.

That is why I am liberal.

I get along much better with gay atheists than I do conservative christians who probably agree with white supremacism or shit that stormfront says and view East Asian males as subhuman. Gays are an oppressed group so to an extent they understand better what it is like to be another oppressed group such as East Asian males or in the past black males, though black males have it relatively easy getting sex and girls nowadays because of their excellent media image, they still suffer from other forms of racism in terms of employment.

Also, most of the great empires that have maintained peace (within its empire) for a relatively long time have always been multicultural. Ottoman Empire, the Ming Empire, Roman Empire at its height and BEFORE CHRISTIANITY, etc. etc.

The most barbaric and evil empires have always been extremely xenophobic, such as the American, British, various western European western imperialists, and later-Roman Empires.

Even with Russian Imperialism, when they deported the Koreans, they payed for lost damages and housing and whatnot. Russia has always had eastern influence. There is a remarkable difference as to how western europeans and anglos and certain aryans tend to treat other races compared to the rest of the world.
I would include Palestine to the list of peaceful multicultural countries before the state of Israel was formed and things went to hell in a hand-basket ever since. Before then, Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Palestinians lived in relative peace and harmony with each other and tensions were limited. Now, it's like a warzone in and out of Israel.
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Homosexuality causes things like higher divorce rates and family breakups. At very least they are close kin born of the same mother: Feminism. I've listed in other topics how it has tangible effects, so I won't bother again, but even the original article I posted here lists some. Mainly though, the problem with homosexuality is that it affects language and culture - the intangible forces behind all of society.
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lone_yakuza wrote:To attack liberalism is to attack one of the few groups/ways of thinking that attempt to push racial equality.

That is why I am liberal.

I get along much better with gay atheists than I do conservative christians who probably agree with white supremacism or shit that stormfront says and view East Asian males as subhuman. Gays are an oppressed group so to an extent they understand better what it is like to be another oppressed group such as East Asian males or in the past black males, though black males have it relatively easy getting sex and girls nowadays because of their excellent media image, they still suffer from other forms of racism in terms of employment.

Also, most of the great empires that have maintained peace (within its empire) for a relatively long time have always been multicultural. Ottoman Empire, the Ming Empire, Roman Empire at its height and BEFORE CHRISTIANITY, etc. etc.

The most barbaric and evil empires have always been extremely xenophobic, such as the American, British, various western European western imperialists, and later-Roman Empires.

Even with Russian Imperialism, when they deported the Koreans, they payed for lost damages and housing and whatnot. Russia has always had eastern influence. There is a remarkable difference as to how western europeans and anglos and certain aryans tend to treat other races compared to the rest of the world.
I'm in that strange divide. Mainly I'm just concerned about degeneracy. Clearly you're a well cultured person who knows things like history and you've said you're trained in classical piano. The problems of fascism and racism are relatively passe. Not that they don't still exist, but they suffered major blows in the last century. Today we face a new enemy, which is fascism's polar opposite: nihilism. I stand against fascism and nihilism both.
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lone_yakuza wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:
lone_yakuza wrote:To attack liberalism is to attack one of the few groups/ways of thinking that attempt to push racial equality.

That is why I am liberal.

I get along much better with gay atheists than I do conservative christians who probably agree with white supremacism or shit that stormfront says and view East Asian males as subhuman. Gays are an oppressed group so to an extent they understand better what it is like to be another oppressed group such as East Asian males or in the past black males, though black males have it relatively easy getting sex and girls nowadays because of their excellent media image, they still suffer from other forms of racism in terms of employment.

Also, most of the great empires that have maintained peace (within its empire) for a relatively long time have always been multicultural. Ottoman Empire, the Ming Empire, Roman Empire at its height and BEFORE CHRISTIANITY, etc. etc.

The most barbaric and evil empires have always been extremely xenophobic, such as the American, British, various western European western imperialists, and later-Roman Empires.

Even with Russian Imperialism, when they deported the Koreans, they payed for lost damages and housing and whatnot. Russia has always had eastern influence. There is a remarkable difference as to how western europeans and anglos and certain aryans tend to treat other races compared to the rest of the world.
I'm in that strange divide. Mainly I'm just concerned about degeneracy. Clearly you're a well cultured person who knows things like history and you've said you're trained in classical piano. The problems of fascism and racism are relatively passe. Not that they don't still exist, but they suffered major blows in the last century. Today we face a new enemy, which is fascism's polar opposite: nihilism. I stand against fascism and nihilism both.
Just remember not everything is clear cut. Most of the gays I met I did not even know were gay. I have also met some of the most "faggot-like" males who turned out to be heterosexual. Of course the gays that act like females are weird. I believe what you are talking about is gender role problems. Not so much sexuality. Because you won't believe how many of the "manly" bodybuilders are actually complete faggots and like taking it up the rear end. Another time I was extremely surprised to find out that a bearded, extremely heterosexual looking man was gay.

Most of the degenerates and delinquents I have met have also been heterosexual, uneducated, and racist. Many of the gays or people who are ok with gays are much more educated, worldly, and open-minded. I think degeneracy has more to do with upbringing, culture, and class than to do with homosexuality, though I would disown my son if I have a son who turns out to be homosexual.

So the main thing I really have against homosexuality is the problem with how we always have to say no homo now if we compliment another guy, though most guys of older generations don't seem to have this issue. But who is to say that there wasn't this problem in the past sometime in another culture that was more open to gays? Also, the greeks and Romans at their height also had many many homosexuals.

I think the other thing is that it is kind of an insult to us heterosexual males to believe that just because there are many homosexuals present and vocal, we will somehow have their tendencies. I like tits and a** and the female form with long hair and feminine demeanor and a pretty face. I am not at all attracted to a penis or another male's body. It doesn't matter how much homosexual content there is. I will be disgusted by it no matter what because I am heterosexual. But perhaps the weak minded would be susceptible. So I agree that if the homosexuals try to push their sexuality into mainstream culture and indoctrinate children, then yes, it is bad and should be stopped. I guess that is where I would be labeled as conservative. But I still disagree with conservatives on every single issue with the exception that I am pro-guns and somewhat anti-homosexual.

I'll admit I like girl on girl though as long as both are femme. Hahaha
Well then I pretty much agree with everything you just said. I just have a different way of expressing it. One of the commenters on the original article made the distinction between homosexuals and faggots. So I guess you could say I'm against faggots. The difference I see is, those degenerates you speak of, the racists and nationalists, they are no longer dominant as they were in other historical periods. James Frasier said the philosophers are the true kings of the world because all leaders must get their ideas from them. No one takes racialist arguments seriously anymore. It's banned from intellectual discourse. Instead the intellectual class has embraced a new kind of degeneracy. They argue for things like moral relativism and if their arguments are taken to ultimate conclusions they are essentially nihilists. Their ideas influence the leaders and policy makers. I'm more concerned about this than fascism and racism, which was discredited even if not fully destroyed by WWII.
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fschmidt wrote:Feminism and liberalism attack society. Gays don't bother anyone. Groups that attack society deserve to be vilified. Groups that mind their own business should be left alone.
The homo agenda is an integral part of the liberal/feminist death cult. Overt homos are destabilizing to the biological basis of society. They are not knitting society together by having children in family relationships. Females becoming dykes is in fact a key part of establishing a feminist polygamous system. This is depicted in the novel Fools Die. The two Hollywood slags keep each other warm in a dyke relationship while occasionally having whore-type sex with male big shots. This is the goal the feminists are aiming for. Homo behavior is dysfunctional in many other ways. Take disease transmission by faggots, for example. This may seem like a minor issue, but that is only because of the temporary respite antibiotics have brought. At any other time, these disease vectors would be a major public health disaster.
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You know it's the end times when you have a bunch of homosexual symphathizers.

Too much homosexuality destroys a civilization or empire from within.

That's why western civilization is crumbling because of the break down of the heterosexual family unit and the encouragement of homosexual lifestyles.

You clearly see this with women currently in the rise of lesbianism.

No civilization which encourages or praises homosexuality will last too long.

You're seeing that right now in America with the discussion of gay marriages. Once this happens, it will almost be over.

I wouldn't want gays put to death or harmed but even the middle easterners are smart enough to realize the dangers of rampant homosexuality and lesbianism.
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