When America Collapses, What Comes Next?

[Taco]

Now is a good time to start thinking about America's future, or lack of it.

When America Collapses, What Comes Next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQdwZk2g ... hA&index=2

[Ghost]

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[clowny]

Tremendous post, Ghost. Thought-provoking stuff. Can you suggest any further reading on this subject?

[gsjackson]

The debt will not be paid back because it cannot be. At some point there will be a government default and collapse. The country will disband, splitting into different countries I suppose.

The U.S. national debt hasn't been paid off since Andrew Jackson was president, and it never will be. But that's OK, it's just funny money that we allow banksters to create out of thin air and call it a debt we owe them. These markers will never be due -- believe me. The U.S. has a multitude of cultural-collapse type problems, but the federal debt is not one of them.

[Jester]

Non-aggression assumes secession and local autonomy.

IMO state governments will outlast Federal.

Some states will split. California will become 5 states, others like Montana, Florida, and Missouri will split in two.

In many states, including California, it is county governments that will inherit real power.

Larger issues will be settled with treaties between states. Counties, at least in places like California where they are large, will also conduct "foreign policy" with neighbors.

Organized force will determine areas of control. National guard, back under state control, plus state police will control at least part of a state, perhaps all.

Lots of chaos has to happen, probably, before Feds will crumble, and states step up.

Peace can be aided by advocating for local self-determination. Objection to Obamacare souldn't be that it is socialist. Objection should be that it is nationwide, forced, universal. Oregon or Vermont could run socialized medicine effectively if they chose. Doesnt mean Arizona could.

Nullification, ignoring Washington, solving problems locally, leaving the Feds out.

When the Roman Empire fell, it was local Roman governors and military commanders who generally ended up becoming the dukes and princes of various feudal states.

Get power, run for office, get into a position of authority now. In order to be in a position to do good as the need arises.

[terminator]

What next? I hope lots of solo mums and their off-spring will be forced to work for a living.

[Jester]

What next? I hope lots of solo mums and their off-spring will be forced to work for a living.

True - criminal records, child support orders, and alimoney - if they still exist in some places - won't extend past state boundaries, and not past county boundaries in California.

It'll be like the Old West in the movies. Ride to the next town, or the next territory, and start fresh.

And no make-work jobs for women.

MILF's will go for a discount, and be willing to cook and clean as well.

[Teal Lantern]

Now is a good time to start thinking about America's future, or lack of it.

When America Collapses, What Comes Next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQdwZk2g ... hA&index=2

"What Comes Next?"
Are you interested in the part where the cops disarm and forcibly remove those who prepped?

(Note how the narration implies the woman is in a flooded/contaminated area, while she is clearly on dry ground and has plenty of food & water)

Or are you interested in the part where law enFARKment joins with the other gangs looting for fun & profit?


And finally let's not forget those who expect the govt to rescue them.