The social and economic state of the USA in 20 years

[clowny]

In this thread, we predict the social and economic state of the USA in 20 years from now (so that would be the year 2033).

Here's my f***ing prediction. The USA will be an even bigger cesspool than it is now, although spanish will be almost equal with english as the unofficial "national language" of the USA because of the declining birth rates amongst whites and the burgeoning population of spanish-speaking immigrants. Exactly the same thing will happen in australia (just replace hispanics with east asians). There will be less people getting divorced overall because the rates of marriage will be much lower. Women will basically be used as cum dumpsters, and have virtually no hope of ever getting married. You will walk the streets at night wondering what happened to your country. Nobody will give a f**k anymore - americans will not even try to pretend they are "the greatest country on earth", as you begin to accept your fate and surrender to your new chinese overlords. There will be even greater racial segregation, so you will have communites of blacks, communites of whites, communites of hispanics, communities of asians, etc. Winston Wu is will be a sad old man, preparing to die cold and alone.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

In this thread, we predict the social and economic state of the USA in 20 years from now (so that would be the year 2033).

Here's my f***ing prediction. The USA will be an even bigger cesspool than it is now, although spanish will be almost equal with english as the unofficial "national language" of the USA because of the declining birth rates amongst whites and the burgeoning population of spanish-speaking immigrants. Exactly the same thing will happen in australia (just replace hispanics with east asians). There will be less people getting divorced overall because the rates of marriage will be much lower. Women will basically be used as cum dumpsters, and have virtually no hope of ever getting married. You will walk the streets at night wondering what happened to your country. Nobody will give a f**k anymore - americans will not even try to pretend they are "the greatest country on earth", as you begin to accept your fate and surrender to your new chinese overlords. There will be even greater racial segregation, so you will have communites of blacks, communites of whites, communites of hispanics, communities of asians, etc. Winston Wu is will be a sad old man, preparing to die cold and alone.

All true. You might add that the population decline due to normalized homosexuality will strangle the aging population, and Social Security will be gone.

The dollar will no longer be the reserve currency of the world, and people will seek to immigrate into India, China, and Latin America. In fact, there will be massive economic emigration of native-born Americans into Latin America.

America in 2033 will see the USA no longer be a country of middle class people, instead it will be a small economic elite and a huge stratum of working class people followed by a chunk of the working poor.

[fschmidt]

The great hyperinflation of 2018 will have been followed by 5 years of social unrest dominated by left wing governments. The government will try to implement strict gun control leading to violence and eventually civil war. The conservatives, though a minority, will win the civil war and democracy will end since the conservatives know they will always lose in democracy. So America will have a dictatorship. From this point forward, America will basically follow the path of the Roman Empire.

[Taco]

You won't have to wait 20 yrs for all that fun stuff to happen, it should have happened in 2008. The Fed just printed out more money to keep the economy on life support a few years longer. The dollar crash will usher in the next world war which thanks to modern technology should be an extinction level event for most countries in the northern hemisphere. Its easy to take over a country when there's no people to resist, I guess that's the main idea behind war. Most guys won't see this coming as they still believe the US is in a state of prosperity. The same guys that still believe blonde haired, college educated American women with big boobs are good investments will be the ones to suffer the most.

All civilizations are built up and then there destroyed. I suggest you plan accordingly and don't wait until the last minute. The ammo supply has already run dry and a war hasn't started yet.

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[Cornfed]

The OP is a simple extrapolation of current trends, but the current slow collapse is unsustainable. At some point we will have total systemic collapse. What will happen after that is unclear. There are three potential outcomes I can think of.
1. Good guys win - Initial fragmentation of Western countries. Quality people take over in isolated pockets and restore traditional values there. They then use their innate superiority to build up forces and retake the rest of their countries, wiping out all the genetic and cultural trash populations as well as the traitor elite.
2. Bad guys win - Anglo-Zionist banksters succeed in using covert military forces they have been building up to wipe out remaining quality people. The world returns to its usual state: a tall, fair skinned master race lording over a mass of squat coffee-colored slaves.
3. Global economic collapse, possibly accompanied by world war, leads to the death of most of the human race.

[Moretorque]

Mass die off for sure, this social ponzi experiment is not sustainable.

[Adama]

The NWO will have been fully implemented. 90% of Humanity will be dead. The AntiChrist will control the remainder of Humanity.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

You guys are out of hand with the alarmism. I could say that in 2033, all Americans will spontaneously combust due to global warming, and that we will be a nation of cockroaches and rats. That does not mean it will occur.

I think a lot of guys state what they WANT to see happen as the likelihood of what will occur, and other guys are just plain conspiracy nuts.

[gsjackson]

The banksters will write off lots of debt, as they know they have to eventually, and the political economy will continue humming along as an entrenched oligarchy. Why would the banksters let this sweet deal they have collapse?

More disturbing are the cultural trends. Americans will be so dumbed down that the movie Idiocracy will seem like a past golden age. Face-to-face interaction not mediated by guns, or some sort of weapon, will be a thing of the past.

[Jackal]

The banksters will write off lots of debt, as they know they have to eventually, and the political economy will continue humming along as an entrenched oligarchy. Why would the banksters let this sweet deal they have collapse?

More disturbing are the cultural trends. Americans will be so dumbed down that the movie Idiocracy will seem like a past golden age. Face-to-face interaction not mediated by guns, or some sort of weapon, will be a thing of the past.

You seem to be talking sense. Also, don't forget the trend of America getting fatter. Eventually, the fitness test to get into the Army will simply be whether a person can fit through a tank hatch or not! lol The many health problems associated with obesity as well as the lack of productivity will put yet more burden on the economy.

[Teal Lantern]

You seem to be talking sense. Also, don't forget the trend of America getting fatter. Eventually, the fitness test to get into the Army will simply be whether a person can fit through a tank hatch or not! lol The many health problems associated with obesity as well as the lack of productivity will put yet more burden on the economy.

Nah, tanks will be remote controlled, by then.

[abcdavid01]

If the 20th century can be characterized by internationalism (U.N. and World Bank/IMF to Eurozone) then the 21st will be characterized by resurgent nationalism.

I want to hear S_Parc's answer. I read an article about drones in the state Newspaper yesterday. Most people think of them as mobile assassins or spy cams, but this article also mentioned them for use in movie productions and food delivery. I guess they're going to replace pizza delivery boys. Actually it said taco copters. Because, you know, Mexicans. So maybe that's the start of normalization and then there will be more and more robots running things. Could cause working class riots. Will the Occupy of 2033 be a rage against the machine? Public policy would need to adapt to solve the dire problem. That is, what to do with the proles. Of course there will probably just be too much gridlock for anything to change, so just lots of unemployment until an authoritarian takes over, good or bad.

[S_Parc]

Thanks for thinking about me Dave. The development of smart drones has been one of the military's key projects since the early 2000s. As of today, the military already has some 5 to 6K drones for surveillance and/or assassination. At least 90% of them are controlled by a human operator but a certain percent are fully automated. This is the only reason why the US has been able to manage an ongoing guerrilla war in Afghanistan, w/o the same loss of life as the Soviets, all those decades back.

And in effect, the convergence of further electronics miniaturization/stacking (ala Moore's Law), AI/machine learning algos, etc, will hasten a surveillance society which even Orwell [or Huxley] couldn't have imagined. Back in those days, all they had were Nazi SS squads or Red Army/KGB types for their novelizations of a dystopia. Looking ahead, however, in a decade or two, there will be flat screen camcorders, *Dragonfly* sized flying surveillance drones, and even Robocops to cover more territory than ever before. In effect, we'll be the polite society version of 1984 where the remaining cops will have little to do but to greet people on the streets, while the drones do all the dirty work. This is in sharp contrast to the Gestapo, where for the most part, those agents were dirtbag psychos who're given power to harass ordinary citizens. Today, with drones, there will be no cognitive dissonance for a law enforcement officer to deal with. The robots do the killing, the human cops just wrap up the paperwork.

[Adama]

Thanks for thinking about me Dave. The development of smart drones has been one of the military's key projects since the early 2000s. As of today, the military already has some 5 to 6K drones for surveillance and/or assassination. At least 90% of them are controlled by a human operator but a certain percent are fully automated. This is the only reason why the US has been able to manage an ongoing guerrilla war in Afghanistan, w/o the same loss of life as the Soviets, all those decades back.

And in effect, the convergence of further electronics miniaturization/stacking (ala Moore's Law), AI/machine learning algos, etc, will hasten a surveillance society which even Orwell [or Huxley] couldn't have imagined. Back in those days, all they had were Nazi SS squads or Red Army/KGB types for their novelizations of a dystopia. Looking ahead, however, in a decade or two, there will be flat screen camcorders, *Dragonfly* sized flying surveillance drones, and even Robocops to cover more territory than ever before. In effect, we'll be the polite society version of 1984 where the remaining cops will have little to do but to greet people on the streets, while the drones do all the dirty work. This is in sharp contrast to the Gestapo, where for the most part, those agents were dirtbag psychos who're given power to harass ordinary citizens. Today, with drones, there will be no cognitive dissonance for a law enforcement officer to deal with. The robots do the killing, the human cops just wrap up the paperwork.

That seems plausible to me.

[gsjackson]

The banksters will write off lots of debt, as they know they have to eventually, and the political economy will continue humming along as an entrenched oligarchy. Why would the banksters let this sweet deal they have collapse?

More disturbing are the cultural trends. Americans will be so dumbed down that the movie Idiocracy will seem like a past golden age. Face-to-face interaction not mediated by guns, or some sort of weapon, will be a thing of the past.

You seem to be talking sense. Also, don't forget the trend of America getting fatter. Eventually, the fitness test to get into the Army will simply be whether a person can fit through a tank hatch or not! lol The many health problems associated with obesity as well as the lack of productivity will put yet more burden on the economy.

Yes, and let me add to my prediction that 95 percent of the American people will be either regular clients (at least one visit a week) and/or employees of the health care "system," which is the only real growth industry in the American economy.