Asian guy approached 2,000 girls, got 12 lays

[Maverick]

That is another thing. If manginas and PUA wannabes are constantly begging worthless skanks for sex, this guarantees that the skanks are going to be entitlement freaks and hostile to men they don't want to have sex with. Shame on guys like this for making Western skanks even worse than they already were.

Not to mention the idea of Western manginas and "PUA's" going overseas and applying their pu$$ybegging behaviors to the women there. Will the FW's become "entitlement queens" after witnessing too much of this, thereby making life more difficult for those men who don't act like a neutered, feminized dolt?

Unlikely.

There are very few guys going overseas to do anything more than smashing bar girls (and usually these guys are older and socially out of touch). Even then, there are relatively few guys making those journeys.

Even on forums like this (and Roosh's forum), the vast majority of guys either don't go overseas at all or spend a very small amount of time there.

I think overseas will become saturated and western eventually, but I don't think it'll happen for a while.

I actually expect the opposite. The middle class in America is being crushed and real wages for most occupations have flatlined for at least a decade. I seriously doubt the young or middle aged will have much discretionary income in the future. Hell, I doubt the 20 somethings you see now will even have retirement funds.

I think it will not change in the near future for a few reasons:

1) Going overseas is still very taboo. It has a very negative connotation to it. This is not likely to change in the near future.

2) Going overseas and staying there is even less likely due to the fact that many people have ties here (children, family, etc).

3) It takes a lot of work and research to go overseas. There's a huge barrier to entry (you have to have the desire, the research skills, and the ability to sustain yourself). So I think that will turn many people off to it.

I think that it will start happening more if the US doesn't get it's sh*t together. But I don't see that happening for a little while (long enough for us to accomplish our goals).

[Maverick]

That's cool, squattincassanova. Whatever works for you--I'm glad you're succeeding. At least you're doing something to shatter the "Asian male" stereotype that I so despise, coming from the Jew-run Hollywood cesspool in the U.S. of Gay. Anyway...we just have different ways to succeed. I'm going the foreign women route, you're going with the PUA route. The whole point is to find what makes you happy and do it. Congrats!

Haha why is everyone always hating on the Jews?

Come on, man. We're not all bad.

[zboy1]

That's cool, squattincassanova. Whatever works for you--I'm glad you're succeeding. At least you're doing something to shatter the "Asian male" stereotype that I so despise, coming from the Jew-run Hollywood cesspool in the U.S. of Gay. Anyway...we just have different ways to succeed. I'm going the foreign women route, you're going with the PUA route. The whole point is to find what makes you happy and do it. Congrats!

Haha why is everyone always hating on the Jews?

Come on, man. We're not all bad.

Sorry, I don't mean 'all Jews.' I have Jewish friends. I meant Zionists.

[AnonymousAmerican]

That's cool, squattincassanova. Whatever works for you--I'm glad you're succeeding. At least you're doing something to shatter the "Asian male" stereotype that I so despise, coming from the Jew-run Hollywood cesspool in the U.S. of Gay. Anyway...we just have different ways to succeed. I'm going the foreign women route, you're going with the PUA route. The whole point is to find what makes you happy and do it. Congrats!

Haha why is everyone always hating on the Jews?

Come on, man. We're not all bad.

Sorry, I don't mean 'all Jews.' I have Jewish friends. I meant Zionists.

zionists aren't a problem. I have met cool Jewish zionists (from Israel).

Problem are asses from Hollywood in general (not just Jews).

[publicduende]

That's cool, squattincassanova. Whatever works for you--I'm glad you're succeeding. At least you're doing something to shatter the "Asian male" stereotype that I so despise, coming from the Jew-run Hollywood cesspool in the U.S. of Gay. Anyway...we just have different ways to succeed. I'm going the foreign women route, you're going with the PUA route. The whole point is to find what makes you happy and do it. Congrats!

Haha why is everyone always hating on the Jews?

Come on, man. We're not all bad.

Sorry, I don't mean 'all Jews.' I have Jewish friends. I meant Zionists.

zionists aren't a problem. I have met cool Jewish zionists (from Israel).

Problem are asses from Hollywood in general (not just Jews).

See, this is why I hate labels. They can mean different things to different people. To local Israeli, Zionism is a healthy form of nationalism. To most of those people steeped in anti-globalism sentiment and conspiracy theories, "Zionism" refers to that powerful elite of policymakers, bankers, corporate and media moguls who are supposed to follow the same agenda of pushing societies towards mass consumption, moral decay etc. etc. to achieve some form of world domination, one world government.

I actually agree with most of those theories. There's definitely a globalist agenda at work, and has been so at least since the demise of the British empire. The only part I don't buy is that the ("those") Zionists are the prime or sole agents for this agenda.

[ladislav]

Zionism means basically for Jews to move to the ME East and live there. It means to fight in the army, to till land, to build the kibbutz. It was an idealistic, very socialist and nationalistic movement for mostly poor Jews in E. Europe to have land they can call their own.

Those people you describe in Hollywood or the bankers do not want to move to the Middle East, do not want to fight in the army there. Nothing like that. In Israel some say that American Jews are not Jewish at all.

Also, Israel is not a big banking center nor is it any significant military or financial power.

[mguy]

squattin,

As an Asian guy, Filipino ethnicity here, I was on the road to becoming someone like you. i began PUA in the USA and ran game and had decent returns. I respect what you do as I know how soul crushing it is to be rejected. I would have continued but I discovered something else that I think you should leverage: moving abroad.

One long stint abroad changed my perception and I now think PUA as an Asian man in the states is not the answer. My friend, if you were white with your statistics, you would only need to show-up.

I respect what you do, but it really is not efficient as it will always be a societal problem that Asian guys are not valued and no amount of rationalization could convince me at this point. Look, there is a solution to this and it doesn't include PUA and approaching a trillion girls -- here it is: move abroad. Yes, bro, when you are abroad, the dynamic changes -- suddenly you become the white guy! Things do not become a challenge anymore and basic PUA is really what you need. I now subscribe to the notion of attraction cannot develop if none that exists in the first place.

Get yourself to a better environment brah, get to where you will be swimming downstream and not fighting the current.

Also, not to brag but 12 lays on 2k approaches seems overkill? I think you need to really evaluate your system there. Last year I was able to get 10 on 60-80 approaches no shit; I just went out to Salsa joints and did a one two combo with a "do you want to practice?" + bar and a spreadsheet.

I would have defended PUA a year ago, but I am now agnostic towards PUA. That is just plain crazy. As long as you get positive self-growth then all the better, but try to look for other avenues.

Good luck all the better. Take my advise: stop approaching that number of women and get the hell out of USA.

[theprimebait]

squattin,

As an Asian guy, Filipino ethnicity here, I was on the road to becoming someone like you. i began PUA in the USA and ran game and had decent returns. I respect what you do as I know how soul crushing it is to be rejected. I would have continued but I discovered something else that I think you should leverage: moving abroad.

One long stint abroad changed my perception and I now think PUA as an Asian man in the states is not the answer. My friend, if you were white with your statistics, you would only need to show-up.

I respect what you do, but it really is not efficient as it will always be a societal problem that Asian guys are not valued and no amount of rationalization could convince me at this point. Look, there is a solution to this and it doesn't include PUA and approaching a trillion girls -- here it is: move abroad. Yes, bro, when you are abroad, the dynamic changes -- suddenly you become the white guy! Things do not become a challenge anymore and basic PUA is really what you need. I now subscribe to the notion of attraction cannot develop if none that exists in the first place.

Get yourself to a better environment brah, get to where you will be swimming downstream and not fighting the current.

Also, not to brag but 12 lays on 2k approaches seems overkill? I think you need to really evaluate your system there. Last year I was able to get 10 on 60-80 approaches no shit; I just went out to Salsa joints and did a one two combo with a "do you want to practice?" + bar and a spreadsheet.

I would have defended PUA a year ago, but I am now agnostic towards PUA. That is just plain crazy. As long as you get positive self-growth then all the better, but try to look for other avenues.

Good luck all the better. Take my advise: stop approaching that number of women and get the hell out of USA.

Thought I posted this comment already:


Cold approaching is Aspie.its just wierd.women want to meet BFs thru social circle,work,friends.preselection.it doesnt work no matter your looks.no matter your race.even if you look like Peter Steele,it wont work.cold approaching shows you''re desperate and that you''re a social retard,to women,they see creepy psycho.they assume why cant he get a hot girl without randomly approaching people.if you want to warm approach,wich shoould get you results,do library,social circle,and even Church Game.thats what normalfags do,and it works for them.

the level of aspergers here sometimes is frightening.those PUA pickup videos are staged.seriousely?You think it has anything to do with his race?reality chk,when youre a creep,just blame your race.it cant be his Erratic demeanor and Schizoid personality can it?it MUST be his race!

comeon guys,this isnt 9th grade.

[Chad114]

IMO the shotgun approach is energy and time inefficient. He could have simply approached the women that showed him indications of interest. Other than that I guess the volume approach is good for eliminating that fear of women but still why waste time on women that aren't choosing you?

Lesson to be learned, hit the gym, and dress contemporary, be sociable and you'll do alright. This guy has the right ideas IMO:


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[AnonymousAmerican]

PUAs are always full of shit. they represent how shitty americans are....

[Adama]

Primebait, you seriously need to resize that avatar.

[Adama]

When I was in Germany, I didnt have to approach 1000 women. I think I would have committed suicide. My success rate wasnt 1 to 1, but, if a woman showed interest with her eyes or with smiling, I pounced. My success rate was high. At least 80%, and in the year I was there, I had more sex than I had before or after. Despite what GermanGuy would say. And believe me, I have infinite respect for Germans and German remaining culture, although they are very rude in general (but then again so are Americans).


No one should ever attempt to hit on 1000 AWs. It is not that it is counterproductive. It is because it inflates the egos of 1000 feminist bitches who think they should only sleep with movie stars, presidents and billionaires.

Believe me, if a porn producer waved $2000 in front of the average AW for a non-filmed try-out, they would all take it, as long as they think no one would know (and some would do it for less if everyone would know).

If you dont believe me, buy an older Porsche for $15,000. You will have AWs walking down major avenues and blvds who will flirt with you, willing to get in your car for a ride, and many of them will be willing to f**k you. (Your status just increased infinitely.) This especially works at beach towns.

[theprimebait]

Primebait, you seriously need to resize that avatar.

I just deleted it.

[mguy]

One can't say race is not a factor in this. If the guy was white his close rate would have been much higher as he was gaming white girls. Try being black and do cold approaching, then you would have to deal with some bullshit stereotype first.

In my experience, I can close Asian girls much much faster than White girls as there is already a cultural commonality that we share.

If we design experiment with average looking black dude and average looking white dude, and we control their environment by sending both of them in a white-worshiping society like some cities in Brazil (as an extreme example), who do you think would have a higher close rate if they approached the same amount of sets?

Ans. The white guy. He would have outside forces already helping him and leveraging for him.

The black guy could work on his game and give lots of effort and he could beat the white guy no problem, but all I am saying is that he is better of just changing that one variable: which is environment. His return would be much higher and long term.

[Repatriate]

The black guy could work on his game and give lots of effort and he could beat the white guy no problem, but all I am saying is that he is better of just changing that one variable: which is environment. His return would be much higher and long term.

I mostly agree that environment is the most important variable since it's hard to attract women in a place which is immediately hostile to your race. However, you have to take into account you'll only meet so many people out of a given population and you have to consider outliers on both ends who are either really open or not open at all to dating another race. Plus the middle of the road people who can change their mind. Attraction isn't that static it's based on the individual too.

There's also the exotic factor though and I wonder if someone could attract lots of outliers if they went to some place notably unfriendly to their race. Let's say..an asian man in one of the deep south states like Tennessee etc.. There are very few asians and some reasonably well dressed and well socialized guy may serve as a magnet for all the outliers.

I'll leave others to experiment with that theory since I have no desire to live in the deep south.