Falcon wrote:Rock wrote:Flag fall for cabs in Taipei is 70 NT$ vs. 35 Baht in Bangkok and meter moves faster in Taipei per km than in Bangkok. So taking a cab in Taipei may be around twice as much for the same ride in Bangkok. In spite of that, I prefer taking a cab in Taipei cus there is zero hassle. Drivers are safe, professional and cars are usually clean and modern. When u arrive, you always get exact change, not tips ever expected. But in Bangkok, it really depends. Some drivers don't wanna use the meter depending on various conditions. Some hang out in certain tourist spots and try to grossly overcharge by offering a ridiculous flat rate. Some refuse to take you where you are going. Once in awhile, the driver might even act loutish and some of the cars are still kinda bad condition. When you give them a bill to pay, they sometimes are hesitant to give change or at least expect some kind of tip. Now to be fair, I think they've improved a lot over the years. But they are still a big pain in the a** compared to Taipei.
You know, that has never happened whenever I'm with my Isaan gf. The drivers don't even dare take detours when she's in there. When I take taxis by myself, they don't try to charge flat rates or not go where I'm going, but they may sometimes take detours. For example, I've noticed that once when she was with me in the taxi, the fare was 45 baht, while the last time I went by myself the taxi fare came out to 70 baht.
But when Xiongmao (who's white) and I flagged down taxis near Sukhumvit, they all refused to use meters and would only charge flat rates. The less Thai you speak and the more foreign you appear, the more you'll get ripped off.
My grandparents have also complained about taxi drivers in Taipei taking detours, so this happens to locals as well.
As a note, most Bangkok taxi drivers come from Isaan. I've heard Roi Et, Yasothon, Sisaket, Nakhon Phanom, and other northeastern provinces. Most of the taxis are actually new-model Toyota Corollas (often the Altis ones) and in great condition. Some drivers are super warm and friendly, while some are quite cranky and irritated.
Falcon, let me give u a bit of perspective on this.
1. Yea, my ex would complain too sometimes. But at the end of the ride, it would make like a 5NT$ difference. Taiwanese passengers can be very nit picky and anal about this stuff. But at the end of the day, not every driver knows the very quickest or shortest way, even if they are a Taipei City driver. Usually, if there are alternatives, they will ask me which way I prefer. I used to take a taxi to work everyday and often home at night. I've easily taken well over 1,000 Taipei cab rides. I've never had one try to rip me off on meter or refuse meter. A few times, the guy would get lost or not know way, esp. if he was from Taipei County or Keelung. When that has happened, they would take off 20 or 30 NT$ from meter.
2. A few years ago, a Thai girl left my place (she was a curtain designer at Home Pro) from central Bangkok at night and took one of those nice new mini van sized cabs. The driver stopped in a quite area on outskirts of town somewhere, got in back, beat her and tried his damndest to rape her. She managed to get out and run but was bruised and cut up and her clothes and bag were ripped. Anecdotal? Yes. But some of those Issan drivers are f***ing animals. A couple of my Taiwan female friends have had problems with them too. One was scared enough to get out of cab and run. Sometimes these idiots don't know the place and just drive randomly for awhile, lol. As I mentioned, its getting noticeably better. As standard of living improves, this kinda stuff happens less frequently. But if you go up to Issan and carefully observe, you're gonna see some things that are messed-up. Guys lying around drunk all day and fighting at night. People who drive motorcycles and speed through intersections without looking. And lots of silly fighting. Oh, and you know, sometimes I do get a Chinese cab driver. They do exist. Last time I cabbed it up from Pattaya (to meet Xiongmao first time), my cabbie was Chinese too. Some of them even speak Mandarin. I get these every once in awhile. Also, keep in mind, you don't have that many datapoints to go by yet. You've probably taken no more than a dozen or so cab rides in Thailand.
3. Decades ago, Taipei used to be a lot poorer. I bet back then, cabbies here were a lot worse too. But I wonder if they were ever as bad as Phillies or even Thai back in the day. Were your grandparents complaining about recent rides or rides from previous decades?
4. One more thing about Bangkok cabbies. If you jump in one along the street during day, they almost always use meter, no questions asked. But the ones who just park in front of Patpong sois are sitting there cus they want an inflated fare. Usually, if you just go out in street and hail one who's passing by, you can get meter. As for Suk, I've not had problems there but perhaps it's cus I usually leave after midnight when traffic is good.