HorseFromWater wrote:zboy1 wrote:HorseFromWater wrote:anamericaninbangkok wrote:Dude...you're so lost I don't know where to begin. I'm going to give this whole thread a looking over when I have time but...until then, grow some nuts, and play the game. It is a game, no matter whether it's called a game or not, and you need to be in control. But first figure out the rules. Right now, she's running the show. Back off, don't call her, don't ask to f**k her, NOTHING. IGNORE HER a**. There are other broads and that's what she is, A BROAD. IF it's mean to be, she's come around eventually. She's young and dumb and full of cum and my guess is she's had someone else's cock in her during the two weeks when she's away. Wake up, smell the coffee, and start looking at other women. It might just change your perspective! Just today I'm walking around across the street from the mall here and there is trim in tiny little shorts EVERYWHERE. Young, tight, firm, hot, little a** waiting to be plowed. The PUNANI is everywhere, you just need to be man enough to go get it.
In that case, maybe you should read the thread before you tell me to grow some nuts or tell me I'm lost.
My mind strays to other women regularly. I am a cheater at heart and have almost done so with various girlfriends. I don't cheat, though, because I make rules for myself and try to stick to those rules. I don't think women are so pathetic as to be unable to do the same.
I'm starting to read some of the threads around here and I'm wondering if maybe a lot of you had problems with women because you are socially maladjusted. People here seems unhappy, insecure and bitter. There is no sense of humour about the situation or camraderie - people rip on each other. If everyone is happy with the foreign women they've met, why all the vitriol towards white women still?
Maybe you are having better luck with women abroad because foreign women, for one thing, value American currency. Maybe they want citizenship. Who the hell knows, but I'd reexamine the notion it's because of some sort of purity absent in North America. I'm sure foreign men still have trouble attracting foreign women. In India, I was getting a lot of smiles from women who largely ignored their countrymen. I got invited out to a rave by two beautiful Indian women who had been ignoring boys all night because of my status as a foreigner. If I had slept with them, it wouldn't be because of some inherent sweetness absent in American women. It would be because I had something nobody else there had - an escape from the threat of poverty. You haven't found women inherently more pure, you've found women with dramatically lowered standards because of their national circumstances. Consciously taking advantage of that is pretty low.
Scandinavia might be different because its wealthy, but they have different attitudes towards sex of course. It does sound like it could be a sexually freeing experience if you had some game.
Anyway that's my two cents. I think I'm going to bow out and wish you guys happiness. Maybe I'll get burned but that's part of life.
Well its your life...the people here are giving you advice but you're refusing to heed any of it. That's your choice. If you really, truly believe this girl is right for you, than forget the haters and continue on with your relationship with this women. End of story.
I'm sure either way, you'll be happy (hopefully...). Good luck to you in your future endeavors, and don't be so sensitive to criticism or negative comments. You've got to grow a thicker skin than that. And, not everyone here is miserable as you say...A lot of people are "Happier Abroad" as they say, so they get inpatient with some newbies here. Stay strong, my Asian brother.
I'll bite before I go to bed since you seem well-intentioned. One thing I've learned about scouring the internet for advice, particularly advice about people is that there are no consistencies. There are literally endless discussion boards on gender, marriage, relationships and every one with their own perspective and success/failure stories. I think there's a grain of truth in most, but something I can't stand are zealots who take an extreme stance, especially since there is no way we can give each other complete context over a few posts.
Would you really respect yourself more as a man if you swallowed the advice of some people you talked to in an online forum, or made decisions for yourself and learned the consequences the hard way? I sure wouldn't. You're faceless men behind computers, claiming to have found success overseas. You understand why I do not accept everything I am told on the net wholeheartedly, yes?
And yeah, I haven't read enough of the forum to judge what people are like here, but that's just the impression I get. It was a suggestion from an outsider. As I'm sure you know, when groups of like-minded people get together, they tend not to break from their orientation of thinking.
Take care of yourself, too.
You came here asking for advice, we're giving it, and you don't like it. We're giving advice based on our experience, which I dare say is far more extensive than yours. I had very little problem with American women when I lived in the U.S. and didn't come to Thailand for p***y. I came to train in Muay Thai after training in Holland for several years.
No offense but if my wife told me she only took the pill because it cleared up her skin and not because she didn't want to get pregnant, I would be suspicious.
Would you really respect yourself more as a man if you swallowed the advice of some people you talked to in an online forum, or made decisions for yourself and learned the consequences the hard way? I sure wouldn't. You're faceless men behind computers, claiming to have found success overseas. You understand why I do not accept everything I am told on the net wholeheartedly, yes?
Come to Thailand, you'll learn for yourself about consequences...everyone on this board knows exactly what I mean.
You came to this board asking for advice and now because we're faceless men behind computers, now you do not want to accept what we're telling you as a group? Why did you come here then?
I could care less if you think we're "claiming to found success" or not. I was trying to give you some sound advice, but of course, you're smarter than I am, you know better, and your girl is different. I've been in Thailand for almost 20 years pal - the chance of my going back to the US to live is zilch because I am happy with my life here. I'm no loser American sitting in bars all day getting shitfaced professing my love for Thai whores and if anyone has been vocal about not having a problem with American women, it's been me. I had no problem talking to women — I may not have always slept with them but that's to be expected. So Canadian, American, whatever...in my opinion most women ANYWHERE in the world want the same thing; security, a better life, a nice place to live, and of course, a bit of cum on their face and a stiff cock in them to relieve the tension. How they go about it and their approach to life is what is different.
With regards to success, I will be successful where ever I go. I'm a survivor and always have been — it doesn't matter where I am. I am unlike some guys who sit behind a computer and never go anywhere yet claim to be adventurous. I actually go to cool places, dangerous places, and do shit that most people only dream about...so please don't bitch to those on this board about your girl troubles if you're not willing to listen AND accept at least some of what we've told you.
With regards to your comment about someone "jamming a thumb in your eye socket" or "punching you in the throat," there's no reason to get like that or even insinuate something like this. We are indeed trying to help. I'm basically a little broken-down old man now and can no longer fight like I used to...but I personally talk to people offline how I talk to them online. I've been in the boxing ring with some of the best fighters in the world and the last thing I worry about it being beat up for something I said to some kid online.
As far as women valuing my American currency, I've never been what could be construed as wealthy. I don't think many of us here are extremely wealthy in the financial sense. A couple of times I've net 80-100K a year but even when I didn't have money I had dates and I got laid. For some, money is the bait. For me, I'm simply friendly and don't give a shit if they like me or not. For whatever reason, it's worked to my satisfaction over the years.
You're a man, we're here to help. But when I say grow some nuts, it's for a reason. Stop letting the p***y control your emotions. Your here because you're emotional about your relationship and don't know what to do.
Here's what to do:
1) If it works - fantastic - keep working at it so it will be a splendid relationship that lasts and lasts. It is work, believe me.
2) If it seems like it's not going to work or you're putting in more than you're getting in return on a regular basis, cut your losses, take some time away from women, and when the time is right, come back smarter.
If the chick wants you for the long term, at some point she will shit or get off the pot. If you love her, start regaining control over the relationship and if you can't do it, move on. You can't control her emotions and if she's an emotional basket case, nothing you're going to say or do is going to change this. Maybe she's torn by her parents and how they'll feel about her marrying you, I don't know. But if I were you, at some point I would tell her to make up her mind what she wants to do. You aren't getting any younger either and just because she treats you unlike other women doesn't mean other women won't treat you better in the future.
If you're a cheater at heart, why are you holding back? If you think your relationship is tough now, wait until your wife pops out a couple of kids, she needs this, they need that, she's worried, she's stressed, your stressed, and there is no reprieve. This is when most cheaters cheat, during the hard times. I cheated on a couple of women, was open about it with several, and now, despite wanting to nail all sorts of tail running around, I am faithful. But...I f***ed and f***ed and f***ed and f***ed nearly every type of woman known to mankind before I decided to get married. Now I may look but I won't cross that line.
One more thing...I've been all over the world. I've worked around the world and I've played around the world. I'm old enough to be your father. What you do is your f***ing business. But if you think your situation is so different from what other men on this board have been through, you're fooling yourself. In the end, you're gonna do what you want to do. You know the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." Well, we've led you to water, whether you drink or not is up to you.
So you're absolutely positively certain she's not having sex when she's away from you for 2 week stretches? And you are certain of this in what way?
It's not about playing god it's about basic respect. Despite what you've been brainwashed to believe women do like it when men act like men. Women lose respect and will take advantage of your weakness as a man. This is especially true when it comes to North American women whose gender belief system has been short circuited to accept nothing less than the perfect male or one who exhibits complete alpha dominance.I get that you have a traditional perspective on feminism and what the woman's role is in a relationship. But I don't think it's unusual for all couples, not just North American ones, to fight and for both parties to be selfish. Nor do I want/expect to play god with a perfect woman who is always on time and responsive to my commands while not mentioning any of my mistakes. I will end up as a more unpleasant person overall with someone like that in my life.
