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Tony Bochene's anti-AFA smear campaign is over

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Who knows. Why don't you ask Tony for references and hear from someone who's known him a long time? The guy probably doesn't even have references. How do you know if that's his real name even?

I doubt that he would go back to working for Anastasia though. He said in his videos that Anastasia was the worst. For him to go back to working with them would look way too hypocritical.

I don't think the guy's agenda is totally altruistic though. From the way he talks, he does have a personal vendetta, like you noticed. There is obviously something personal going on. He definitely has an axe to grind against them. I heard that he used to work for AFA long ago. So maybe he holds a grudge against them for something.

Moreover, it's odd that if he thinks Anastasia is the worst, then why are most of his videos attacking AFA?

You should take what he says with a grain of salt though. Don't take whatever he says as Gospel truth.

Why don't you ask him what happened to his blog against Anastasia and why it was taken down. You are in contact with him right?

As to his blog taken down, it could be that Anastasia filed a complaint with Wordpress and had it taken down. Or they could have used their lawyers to get a court order against Tony to take it down. If so, he would probably not tell you about it though. No man wants to appear that he's losing.

However, Tony has gotten out of hand and crossed the line with some of his latest videos alleging AFA of having underaged girls without offering a shred of evidence, as if whatever he says is Gospel truth. Yeah right. He's gone overboard and is unwisely making threats now to AFA staff.
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My advice is not to get involved in this marriage agency drama in any way. They are all shysters and you just don't need it. Why get involved in this political entertainment and take your focus off of your original goal to meet a woman? You will only find a good quality woman by going to the country itself. Let that be your focus. I am speaking from experience.
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Of course you should go to the country itself. On the other hand, do you think that social sites have no value whatsoever? We believe they can have a lot of value for people, when they are honest sites with honest members. The problem with AnastasiaDate/Asianbeauties/Amolatina and many other similar services is that they make a lot of money by compensating "agencies" to "handle the quality control" but in fact those agencies, as we know, are compensated in proportion to Anastasia's revenue, not the customer's experience. Anastasia's revenue goes way up, but without changing their business model, they can't keep it up. The agencies are the v*agra that keeps Anastasia going.

So, of course, go to the country, but by limiting yourself just to the people you'll meet at Jollibee or a bar, you won't meet the same quality people as you would at our site Christian Filipina, for instance.
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Christina Filipina,
I don't think MrPeabody was saying that one should never use dating sites or that they don't have value. I think he was saying that you should not get involved in the disputes, drama and internal politics that goes on between marriage agencies in the international dating industry.
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Well guys Tony had me believing for a while, But I would give AFA the benefit of the doubt. I called AFA Office and ask them about Tony, they told me he was a complete liar. They have a multi-million dollar lawsuit in federal court against Tony Bochene and they have also got a restraining order against him for harassment . I posted these questions to Bochene and he just deleted it from his channel. This is where you really lost me. This is one of my question I posted that he was so quickly deleted it: “ If you have any evidence that AFA has done anything you have said, why don’t you just show the evidence? If you don’t then it looks like you are just former disgruntled employee that sits home all day stews about how unfair life is. Tony you make so many allegation with no evidence at all. Step up to the plate buddy and let’s see it! “

Casino owner Steve Wynn was awarded $20 million in damages on his defamation suit against "Girls Gone Wild" creator Joe Francis, whom Wynn accused of slander for falsely claiming the Las Vegas mogul wanted him killed over a gambling debt. This was one comment, one statement, you have made hundreds, If you can’t prove all of these then you are going to really end up screwed my friend. I hope you have got lots of money dude or you are ready to file bankruptcy. Courts have award time after time for internet slander.

FYI, stop deleting post on your channel if you want any credibility.
Also how did you get a fiancée visa with a restraining order against you? Any kind of restraining order is usually a visa killer
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Gosnell wrote:Well guys Tony had me believing for a while, But I would give AFA the benefit of the doubt. I called AFA Office and ask them about Tony, they told me he was a complete liar. They have a multi-million dollar lawsuit in federal court against Tony Bochene and they have also got a restraining order against him for harassment . I posted these questions to Bochene and he just deleted it from his channel. This is where you really lost me. This is one of my question I posted that he was so quickly deleted it: “ If you have any evidence that AFA has done anything you have said, why don’t you just show the evidence? If you don’t then it looks like you are just former disgruntled employee that sits home all day stews about how unfair life is. Tony you make so many allegation with no evidence at all. Step up to the plate buddy and let’s see it! “

Casino owner Steve Wynn was awarded $20 million in damages on his defamation suit against "Girls Gone Wild" creator Joe Francis, whom Wynn accused of slander for falsely claiming the Las Vegas mogul wanted him killed over a gambling debt. This was one comment, one statement, you have made hundreds, If you can’t prove all of these then you are going to really end up screwed my friend. I hope you have got lots of money dude or you are ready to file bankruptcy. Courts have award time after time for internet slander.

FYI, stop deleting post on your channel if you want any credibility.
Also how did you get a fiancée visa with a restraining order against you? Any kind of restraining order is usually a visa killer
Of course AFA would say he's a liar, don't be an idiot.

Evidence? They don't screen the men or the women. Its been repeated several times their are pro daters among the regular women.

Nobody said AFA wasn't successful to a point. Its the work you have do in order to find a reasonable woman is not worth the $3.5K or so they charge you.

You could largely DIY for the same amount and come up with the same results.

Tony has likely be forced by his own legal advisors to remove some of his videos and links, for his own protection.

AFA is okay, all the founders of Dream Connections found their wives through them so of course it works. Its the fact that AFA didn't screen anybody and didn't properly prepare men for their mission that is the knock against them.

I really didn't have an opinion on the other sites they own, its the internet and Ken Agee I believe was deeply involved in the internet before the others were.
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Post by Jester »

Never heard of this guy Tony Bochene before reviewing this thread last night. Followed a few links. Check out this new video. Guy really lays it on the line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4i20Wdb ... UKHeZ5LIpg
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He may lay it on the line, but he offers no proof, all the the referrals AFA sent me not one I talked to said they saw any of this on the tour. I imagine this is why he is being sued for millions. I must say after I look at this stuff for a while the guy seems like he is just a wacko, every time I post on his channel he just deletes it, refuses to show any evidence. All I ever ask him on his channel to see the proof. Never found one person who went on a tour that corroborates his claims. It is clear he has a grudge with AFA, but this dude is not even a client, just an ex employee.
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I think the biggest downside of AFA is that you have to go through their mail system to contact the women. So, every time you have to contact her you have to pay for the communication. I could see this being used to get a lot of money out of guys being fed on hope. You should only use a service where you can have full unrestricted access to the woman's contact information. Maybe guys who have used this service can give their experiences. As for Bochene, his last video was really over the top. He appeared in buckskins and spent over half of the video talking about his Bowie knife. It conjures up images of an old man going through his second childhood. When I am abroad, I go out of my way to avoid nutty Americans. The best way to meet women is to go there in person and avoid the middle men. It's a waste of your time to worry about agency politics. Just avoid them.
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Gosnell wrote:Well guys Tony had me believing for a while, But I would give AFA the benefit of the doubt. I called AFA Office and ask them about Tony, they told me he was a complete liar. They have a multi-million dollar lawsuit in federal court against Tony Bochene and they have also got a restraining order against him for harassment . I posted these questions to Bochene and he just deleted it from his channel. This is where you really lost me. This is one of my question I posted that he was so quickly deleted it: “ If you have any evidence that AFA has done anything you have said, why don’t you just show the evidence? If you don’t then it looks like you are just former disgruntled employee that sits home all day stews about how unfair life is. Tony you make so many allegation with no evidence at all. Step up to the plate buddy and let’s see it! “

Casino owner Steve Wynn was awarded $20 million in damages on his defamation suit against "Girls Gone Wild" creator Joe Francis, whom Wynn accused of slander for falsely claiming the Las Vegas mogul wanted him killed over a gambling debt. This was one comment, one statement, you have made hundreds, If you can’t prove all of these then you are going to really end up screwed my friend. I hope you have got lots of money dude or you are ready to file bankruptcy. Courts have award time after time for internet slander.

FYI, stop deleting post on your channel if you want any credibility.
Also how did you get a fiancée visa with a restraining order against you? Any kind of restraining order is usually a visa killer
To AFA, when you get your judgment, give these guys a call, they are the most aggressive about collecting a judgment, they will hound Tony Bochene for the rest of his life and squeeze every nickel out of him. Best thing about these guys its all commissions, you pay nothing up front. They have the very best investigation team that will track every dollar he makes, they will do standard of living audits and take him to court to show all his financials each year. Garnish any income he has coming in. If he gets married they can go after her income also. Nothing worse in the world then punks like Bochene

Here is their contact info, they are based in northern California.
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Phone: (916) 973-8861

PS - My brother met his wife on your site.
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Post by Jester »

Gosnell and gofast are very knowledgeable and very opinionated.

Also very new. Coincidentally? :lol:

I suppose AFA has the right to post their rebuttal here, but I am not liking this surrogate stuff.

If you want to step up, AFA, please be our guest.
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Gosnell wrote:Well guys Tony had me believing for a while, But I would give AFA the benefit of the doubt. I called AFA Office and ask them about Tony, they told me he was a complete liar. They have a multi-million dollar lawsuit in federal court against Tony Bochene and they have also got a restraining order against him for harassment . I posted these questions to Bochene and he just deleted it from his channel. This is where you really lost me. This is one of my question I posted that he was so quickly deleted it: “ If you have any evidence that AFA has done anything you have said, why don’t you just show the evidence? If you don’t then it looks like you are just former disgruntled employee that sits home all day stews about how unfair life is. Tony you make so many allegation with no evidence at all. Step up to the plate buddy and let’s see it! “

Casino owner Steve Wynn was awarded $20 million in damages on his defamation suit against "Girls Gone Wild" creator Joe Francis, whom Wynn accused of slander for falsely claiming the Las Vegas mogul wanted him killed over a gambling debt. This was one comment, one statement, you have made hundreds, If you can’t prove all of these then you are going to really end up screwed my friend. I hope you have got lots of money dude or you are ready to file bankruptcy. Courts have award time after time for internet slander.

FYI, stop deleting post on your channel if you want any credibility.
Also how did you get a fiancée visa with a restraining order against you? Any kind of restraining order is usually a visa killer
If it is a commercial dispute, that is not the same as a domestic dispute. Also if he filed his k-1 before they put that order on him, it would have slipped through the background checks they did on him. They sometimes do one last one before the fiancee goes to her interview at the embassy, but sometimes no. Felonies and domestic disputes and even domestic accusations that have dropped charges will be brought up by the embassy worker, but only certain felony convictions or for a domestic dispute is a visa killer.

If you raped or harmed a child or any woman for that matter it is literally impossible. If you punched your brother a long time ago, you can get an exception but there is a process you have to go through first and it is not guaranteed. A good lawyer is needed too of course.

I'm not a lawyer but these are things I saw or went through my own self with my lawyer and my fiancee, etc.
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gofast wrote:
Gosnell wrote:Well guys Tony had me believing for a while, But I would give AFA the benefit of the doubt. I called AFA Office and ask them about Tony, they told me he was a complete liar. They have a multi-million dollar lawsuit in federal court against Tony Bochene and they have also got a restraining order against him for harassment . I posted these questions to Bochene and he just deleted it from his channel. This is where you really lost me. This is one of my question I posted that he was so quickly deleted it: “ If you have any evidence that AFA has done anything you have said, why don’t you just show the evidence? If you don’t then it looks like you are just former disgruntled employee that sits home all day stews about how unfair life is. Tony you make so many allegation with no evidence at all. Step up to the plate buddy and let’s see it! “

Casino owner Steve Wynn was awarded $20 million in damages on his defamation suit against "Girls Gone Wild" creator Joe Francis, whom Wynn accused of slander for falsely claiming the Las Vegas mogul wanted him killed over a gambling debt. This was one comment, one statement, you have made hundreds, If you can’t prove all of these then you are going to really end up screwed my friend. I hope you have got lots of money dude or you are ready to file bankruptcy. Courts have award time after time for internet slander.

FYI, stop deleting post on your channel if you want any credibility.
Also how did you get a fiancée visa with a restraining order against you? Any kind of restraining order is usually a visa killer
To AFA, when you get your judgment, give these guys a call, they are the most aggressive about collecting a judgment, they will hound Tony Bochene for the rest of his life and squeeze every nickel out of him. Best thing about these guys its all commissions, you pay nothing up front. They have the very best investigation team that will track every dollar he makes, they will do standard of living audits and take him to court to show all his financials each year. Garnish any income he has coming in. If he gets married they can go after her income also. Nothing worse in the world then punks like Bochene

Here is their contact info, they are based in northern California.
Interwest Judgment Recovery * 2386 Fair Oaks Blvd. Sacramento, CA 95825
Phone: (916) 973-8861

PS - My brother met his wife on your site.
Thanks. I've passed your message on to John Adams of AFA.

Btw, if Bochene is just a disgruntled employee, then what went wrong? What is the motivation for his revenge? Any of you know the background story? If he was treated wrongly during his employment, he should talk about that, rather than spread a hate campaign against AFA.
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Gosnell,
How do you know about this lawsuit by AFA against Bochene? Is it publicized somewhere?

How did they get Bochene to stand trial if he was in Latin America? What is he pleading?

Has he been forced to take down his videos and sites yet?
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