SaturdayNightSpecial wrote:
Then what in your opinion would be the criteria to rate someone as the top 20% alpha male?
I'd probably rate by socio-economic status and not number of women the guy sleeps with. i.e. say if we look at a poor residental "projects" complex, where some men sell dope and have multiple GF's -- I wouldn't rate them in the top 20% of society. But this is a complicated topic and no single criteria would cover it.
Let's look at a few scenarios:
I know several Taiwanese male doctors and dentists locally. They're tall, decent looking, and single. My dry-sister (not related) and couple female freinds went after them and they brushed the girls off, because they had women hitting on them quite often and can care less. My buddy's sister chased her dentist husband for 2 years before he dated & eventually married her. So you could say that men who attained certain status are winners because they no longer need to chase women, because women chase them. These men don't brag to outsiders. They're shrewed enough to maintain apperances.
Winston mentioned that his cousin is a doctor (?) and never dated before he married. If he had wanted to get hitched earlier, I think match makers would've been knocking down his parents door with offers. But I have a feeling that his cousin is someone who prefers yuanfen. For those who don't understand the concept, it has no simple direct English translation, but you can read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuanfen
Most people know that generally speaking, the better educated you are, the more $$ you make. Less well known, 8.9% of US population has post-graduate degrees, but constituted 16% of votes in elections. The better educated and better paid % of the population is also better represented by professional organizations in political lobbies. This "power" is often subtle, they don't protest publically like teacher's unions. They do things quietly and get laws, amendments, and changes enacted in their factor, such as how medicare pays for certain radiology procedures. This helps them to get inside a "winner's circle" and stay there.
In the Asian American subculture, we joke that men are rated by the "3H's" -- Height, Handsome, and High income. If you're tall and good looking, women would date but not marry you. If you're rich but short and ugly, you end up with gold diggers, or women who'd stay for economic reasons. Someone who has all 3H's is more likely to be in the "alpha' group. Just as guys want to chase the top xx% good looking women, women want to chase the top xx% eligible men too.
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It's getting late and my brain is scrambled, so I'll cut it short. We can divvy the men into 3 generalized categories:
Alpha
Beta
Omega
Alpha -- men in the alpha group has better access to women in the middle to upper class category. They tend to be better educated and better paid. Alpha's are financially savvy, use $ to make $, and have political associations to help the maintain their status. Women dress up and chase alpha's to "marry up".
Beta -- men in the beta group pay deference to alpha's. The difference is that women chase alpha's vs. beta men has to chase women. Some beta men have the magical "game" and is succesful with women, but they still have to do the chasing and will never attain alpha's socio-economic status. Most beta men have OK dating lives, few do better and few do worse. Most get married and have families.
Omega -- omega men are considered undesirable, dysgenic, and "marrying down" by women. Men could fall in this category because of poverty, birth defects/handicaps, bad 3H's, mental issues, vibes that repulse women, etc. In some areas, omega status is the result of racial, class, or religious discrmination, such as the Buraku people in Japan.
Class mobility -- it's very possible to "move up" through education, working smart, and/or relocating to another place where the class or socio-economic structure benefits you. i.e. in America we can care less if your ancestors tanned leather hides and were from lower caste. You can work as a cook and nobody will complain that you're "ritually impure" because of your linege.
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OK that's it, I'm off to bed. It's almost 4am, so don't hate me if anything I wrote doesn't make sense. ;p
The guys who are having a hard time meeting women or making friends never discuss it with anyone, I guess they think they will look like losers if they do. It's funny, in America your are not supposed to talk about how difficult a time your having meeting people or making friends. It's a taboo subject for some reason. 
Also, how in gods name can you sleep with 30 girls in one year in America? (unless all the girls were fat or ugly, LOL 
Yet, if you look at them they get an angry look on their face and seemed annoyed. God forbid you should strike up a conversation with them, or look at them, it's like your not supposed to have desires around women in the US! If they don't want male attention, they why are they dressed with their best ASSests showing? LOL 
I am glad this discussion forum exists because the real dating scene in America is discussed here!