Why don't other sites mention Dating, Social Life or Mental Health as reasons to leave America?

[Winston]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. At this site about living overseas, some reasons are listed for living overseas. As you can see, none of them are about social life or dating. Why?

http://www.expatguy.com/Why-Move-Overseas.htm

How come I'm the only one who thinks those are primary issues?

BTW, the owner of that site contacted me with an interest to mutually cross-promote our sites. I hope he comes onto this forum, as I've invited him to do so.

[Jackal]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. At this site about living overseas, some reasons are listed for living overseas. As you can see, none of them are about social life or dating. Why?

http://www.expatguy.com/Why-Move-Overseas.htm

How come I'm the only one who thinks those are primary issues?

Well, getting foreign p***y could be included in his "just for the fun of it" reason. He seems to be making things vague so no patrolling American feminists flame him to death with "Shut up, you loser" speeches.

I think other sites avoid these topics subconsciously because they are really just miniatures of mainstream American culture which implies that men must walk on eggshells around women. Imagine if you picked up an issue of Time magazine of the newstand and saw an ad on the back cover which said "American women suck. Move abroad and finally meet the women you've been dreaming about." It would never happen. Our culture has very strict social controls on information. Anything outside of the mainstream gets bashed into the "loser" category or sued.

[Winston]

Why is it that virtually none of the other expat sites (sites for overseas Americans) never list women and dating as a reason for moving or going overseas? Why is that such a taboo subject for them? They treat it like it doesn't exist. Isn't that odd?

You would think that sites for Americans who want to get out of their country would be a little more liberal and uncensored?

Yet the other expat sites only talk about practical things, like finding a job overseas, getting property, dealing with laws, etc. But they never talk about dating foreign women there. WHY?! Is wanting sex and getting hot girls considered a bad sin that needs to be uncensored to them? Why are the expats interviewed by expat sites afraid to mention women as a reason?

This sort of insinuates that "normal" people do not go abroad for women or dating.

I guess that's the only thing that makes this site unique, because you can talk about here, since it's the primary topic.

Have a look at what the other expat sites list as the reasons for moving abroad.

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Top 10 Reasons to Move Abroad
This article covers the top 10 reasons why UK residents move abroad.
It’s about this time of year, as the dark, cold nights start to close in, that many Brits’ thoughts start to turn to an alternative life in the sun, in Europe or beyond. Many people are involved in broken house sale chains and are looking to complete a house purchase abroad; Quick Move Now, being the foremost house buying company in the UK, is in a great position to help.

1. The weather - Pretty obvious this one. The average summer temperature in Southern Spain is 25 degrees C, compared to 15 degrees for the UK. Balmy summer nights with cool drinks on the veranda are a big pull factor for people looking to move abroad.
2. The food – dodgy kebabs, brown sauce, greasy fry ups – while some Brits love traditional British fare, others yearn for a diet of fresh fish, olive oil and Mediterranean vegetables which makes places like Italy among the healthiest places to live in Europe.
3. The culture – The art galleries, churches and café culture of Paris have proved irresistible for many "Rosbifs" looking to find a new life abroad. Many look for somewhere close enough that they can get the chunnel to visit relatives in the U.K.
4. The standard of living – Places like Switzerland are becoming increasingly attractive to Brits – being the richest country in the world, it is a haven for those looking for excellent healthcare, education and transport.
5. The people – People regularly contrast the outgoing and friendly nature of Americans with the cold, reserved character that many Brits exhibit, and cite it as a reason for moving stateside.
6. The scenery – From the lush fields of Holland to the rugged coastline of Greece, continental Europe has some remarkable scenery not found in the UK.
7. The lower property prices – Many Brits are looking to Eastern Europe as a place to invest in property and move permanently. In Bulgaria you can pick up a habitable property from as little as £20k. Compare this with the average UK house price of £200k
8. The lower crime levels – Many countries around the world are perceived as being safer than the UK. This is backed up by facts in some cases – In Japan, the murder rate is a quarter of that in the UK. Many expat Brits have found places like Japan to be a safe haven away from the dangerous streets of places like London or Liverpool.
9. To have a fresh start – Everyone needs a fresh start once in a while; moving abroad allows you to do just that.
10. To meet new people – Moving abroad allows you to meet new friends, colleagues, neighbours which can greatly enrich your life.

Quick Move Now are one of the leading house buying companies in the UK. They specialise in providing a quick house sale and will buy my house quickly. They will buy your house for 90% of its value and can turn around in 7 days.

By Kevin Morley
Published: 2/22/2008

(Brits think Americans are outgoing and friendly?)

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Top Ten Reasons to Move Abroad

10) Discount European Airlines means every weekend can be a vacation.
9) You’ll make friends solely based on the fact that you’re American.
Great opportunity to learn a plethora of accents.
7) Every time you come back stateside, its an excuse to have a weeks worth of parties.
6) Happy Hours here actually involve mile long buffets.
5) European experience looks FANTASTIC on the ol’ resume (especially if you’re in finance or international relations).
4) You can learn (or improve) a foreign language (even though almost everyone speaks SOME English).
3) It’s a great opportunity to learn about lots of different cultures- think “The Spanish Apartment,� a great French film for those who haven’t heard of it.
2) New York will always be there- Venice- is sinking.
1) YOU GUYS DECIDE!!! Polling starts now (and if anyone says because the Euro is strong- I'll show you the difference between my biweekly pay stub in NY and my Monthly here...its depressing).

Posted by Lydia at 9:30 AM

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Monday, September 22, 2008

Why do people move abroad?

Recent statistics show that in some countries, the expat community can make up a noticeable percentage of the population. Of course we are not talking a huge percentage, but the very fact it has now become possible to express the expat head count in percentage of population form in these countries is indicative of the fact that people no longer see moving abroad as a particularly large hurdle to overcome and more and more people are willing to leave their country of birth to seek a new life elsewhere. One recent survey of the expat community in Spain found that there were three main reasons that people had chosen to move there:

1. Lower cost of living means a better lifestyle, even if income was reduced.
2. Ability to relocate to a more desirable area, both socially and environmentally.
3. Better climate and healthier environment.

The interesting thing about these three reasons is that they were originally the prime driver for many retired people relocating to the warmer parts of Spain; however, the average expat age has dropped significantly over the past two decades. It would seem to suggest that younger people are seeking early retirement or semi-retirement - in effect we have a whole batch of young, financially well off people leaving the shores of their home country to live in Spain. One can only presume that this has a negative economic impact upon the country they are leaving, as the people literally cash in their chips and take them elsewhere. In a future post I will explore some of the possible effects this could have on a country over the long term.

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The Top 10 Reasons for Moving Abroad
CanuckAbroad » The Top 10 Reasons for Moving Abroad

Whether you’re current just thinking of moving abroad or you’ve heard about friends who are considering moving, you might want to learn more about it before you make any big decisions. Here are the top ten reasons why many others have moved abroad:

* 1. A change of pace – If you don’t like the pace of where you are living right now, you might enjoy the environment of bring abroad better. Most countries over the Atlantic are slower and calmer.
* 2. A fresh start – If you’ve been thinking that you simply need to get away from it all, moving abroad will certainly give you the chance to change things up and start fresh. You won’t know anyone necessarily, so you can start everything in your life anew.
* 3. A new experience – For those who like adventure, moving abroad will give you the chance to try something completely different and exciting.
* 4. Family history – You might want to move abroad to experience the area where your family originated from. By living in the area for a time, you may be able to get a better understanding of where you came from.
* 5. Education – For others, moving abroad is the result of deciding to pursue education across the ocean. By enrolling in an exchange program or another education program, you can learn while you live in a new area.
* 6. Money – With the current currency exchange rates, it makes financial sense to move abroad for some families. Prices may be cheaper and allow for more luxuries.
* 7. Work – Others want to expand their employment clientele by moving abroad or they want to venture into a new business by moving abroad. There are plenty of new opportunities to be found abroad.
* 8. Transfers – If you don’t own your own business, you may be asked to move abroad by the company you are working for. This might be a long term transfer or perhaps a limited time transfer.
* 9. Real estate – Some people move abroad to take advantage of the real estate market or to become a purchaser of real estate across the ocean in order to make a profit back home.
* 10. Retirement – And for many, moving abroad is something they have dreamed of all their life. Once in retirement, they can finally realize this dream and live somewhere exotic.

No matter what your reasons, you can see that there are far more reasons to move abroad than you might have realized.

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Why Expatriates Move Abroad
Published on Saturday, May 10th, 2008
Living Abroad » Starting a New Life Abroad

Summary: Examining the latest findings into why so many Britons choose to expatriate and live abroad

Why Expatriates Move Abroad

If you’ve ever wondered why so many Britons seem to be fleeing the UK in search of a better life abroad, the answers have come in the form of survey findings from an international removal company who cleverly took it upon themselves to ask those they were removing why they were leaving the UK behind.

The findings are relatively unsurprising if we’re all honest with ourselves – but they really do firm up widely held suspicions that the current government in the UK has a lot to answer for. Not that this is a political website, nor do we feel a change of government will alleviate the feelings of frustration in the UK at the moment! Anyway, enough about what we think - read on to find out why expatriates move abroad!

Robinsons International, (home and business removal specialists), recently conducted a survey of those they were helping to relocate abroad – which we think is pretty nifty. Far more interesting that some bank or governmental statistics bureau going out and quizzing random people on the street anyway…and what they found was that increasingly their clients are individuals, couples, families and even businesses who have become disillusioned and disappointed with life in the United Kingdom.

People surveyed were quick to mentioned that they feel frustration with their current life in the UK and that moving abroad offered them the chance to find a new, hopefully better and more fulfilling life. Reasons cited for why expatriates move abroad in the Robinsons International survey included being fed up with the high and increasing cost of living in the UK.

House prices, fuel and even day to day living costs are indeed cripplingly expensive in the UK and it leads to a situation where people are being forced to work longer and longer hours for less – especially now that the government has abolished the 10p tax! And speaking of the government’s role in all this, the next most common reason cited for why people move abroad is the performance of the current government particularly under the leadership of Gordon Brown. Poor Gordon – Tony really did leave the job just at the right time!

And talking of jobs – the pressure of work felt by those in the UK is another reason that increasing numbers of us are seeking a new life abroad along with the rise in immigration in the UK. So, the whinging poms are no longer whinging, they are getting up, packing up and shipping out of the UK. Will the last one to leave please turn out the lights!

[wraith]

maybe dating/women counts as making new friends, cause you can't really date someone until you know them as friends.

i dunno, just my 2 cents.

[momopi]

Why is it that virtually none of the other expat sites (sites for overseas Americans) never list women and dating as a reason for moving or going overseas? Why is that such a taboo subject for them? They treat it like it doesn't exist. Isn't that odd?

It's not a top reason for going abroad for many people, like getting laid is not a top priority for many men and women past their teen/young adult stage.

These days there's many other entertainment venues. When I was young, all I did after school was fishing, and a little game playing on Atari 2600. Today people stay online all night playing MMO's & video games.

[Winston]

Why is it that virtually none of the other expat sites (sites for overseas Americans) never list women and dating as a reason for moving or going overseas? Why is that such a taboo subject for them? They treat it like it doesn't exist. Isn't that odd?

It's not a top reason for going abroad for many people, like getting laid is not a top priority for many men and women past their teen/young adult stage.

These days there's many other entertainment venues. When I was young, all I did after school was fishing, and a little game playing on Atari 2600. Today people stay online all night playing MMO's & video games.

W: If that's so, then me and the people attracted to this site, must be hornier than the average person, and more frustrated. In other words, we rank dating hot women as a higher priority than the average person. Is that a logical conclusion?

Otherwise, the fact that other expat sites don't mention dating women as even a reason, implies that we who view that as a big reason, are "freaks" and not normal, does it?

[momopi]

W: If that's so, then me and the people attracted to this site, must be hornier than the average person, and more frustrated. In other words, we rank dating hot women as a higher priority than the average person. Is that a logical conclusion?

Otherwise, the fact that other expat sites don't mention dating women as even a reason, implies that we who view that as a big reason, are "freaks" and not normal, does it?

Yes and no. You also have to look at the ex-pat site's demographics. If they're catering to older and financially established folks looking for vacation properties abroad, then that's probably not the same target audience as you.

[Merc]

This is an interesting question. Here's my 2 cents:

Behavioral research suggests that nearly all human behavior is based on a few base-level motivations, the most powerful of these being sex, food and security. Granted, sex is a weaker motivation for the elderly, but only slightly less so (research the sales stats for Viagra among 70 to 90 year olds!).

So nearly all decisions we make are (unconsciously) based on our perceived ability to get:

1. sex (self-explanitory)
2. food (better paying job, more income opportunities, etc)
3. security (more job security, higher status in society, etc).

So a person going abroad is almost certainly trying to increase their ability to get either sex, food or security, or some combination of these three.

Not including sex/love/dating in those top ten lists is the worst kind of bourgeois bullshit IMHO. It reminds me of how nearly every person I've ever met ridicules those 1-900 sex lines advertised on TV. Meanwhile, there's a new one nearly every week, and they're making tons of money. How is that possible? Hmmmm ,-)

Bottom line: people "front" a lot, and 95% of folks don't know their own mind very well at all. Not saying I do either. Knowing that unconscious motivations rule your life doesn't make you immune to them

Hey, and while I'm on a rant (haha), here is another point I think is worth mentioning:

People need sex. And they should unashamedly go wherever they have access to a healthy sex life. In fact, it's a recognized health issue. Tons of research shows that men who have a regular, healthy sex life are more physically healthy and have stronger immune systems than men who don't get laid often (research shows they live longer too).

Regular sex also reduces stress and controls the over-production of cortisol in the body (excessive cortisol has been linked to heart disease, depression, anxiety, diabetes, ADHD and dozens of other physical and emotional health problems).

In short, an enjoyable and sustainable sex life is as important to a healthy mind and body as eating right and exercising. Any self-respecting man should take whatever measures are necessary to ensure he has access to regular nookie, even if that means relocating to the other side of the world.

And if anyone tries to suggest that this is selfish, they are actually arguing against protecting your physical and mental health (whether they know it or not) -- it's like denying a man of proper nutrition, rest or exercise. His physical and emotional health will suffer, and statistically, he will die younger.

If you ever feel the slightest bit guilty about wanting to have a consistent and enjoyable sex life, think about the above paragraph and maybe it will remind you how insane that is. You might as well feel guilty about exercising or taking a multivitamin every day...

Rant over (sorry I got long-winded there).

[Jackal]

Not including sex/love/dating in those top ten lists is the worst kind of bourgeois bullshit IMHO. It reminds me of how nearly every person I've ever met ridicules those 1-900 sex lines advertised on TV. Meanwhile, there's a new one nearly every week, and they're making tons of money. How is that possible? Hmmmm ,-)

Yes, there's quite a contrast between what people are supposed to say publicly in America and what they actually think and do. People think this public statements of traditional morality are important, even though they will admit they are bullshit if you really press them (it's considered rude in the US to force somebody to tell the truth). This way, fake people get to win twice in America: they get public praise for condemning something in public while they continue to do it in private, unconcerned with their own hypocrisy.

Bottom line: people "front" a lot, and 95% of folks don't know their own mind very well at all. Not saying I do either. Knowing that unconscious motivations rule your life doesn't make you immune to them

Bingo. Most American women unconsciously want and need jerks. Maybe they crave the punishment of a father figure. I don't know; the whole thing is too f***ed up for me to think about.

In short, an enjoyable and sustainable sex life is as important to a healthy mind and body as eating right and exercising. Any self-respecting man should take whatever measures are necessary to ensure he has access to regular nookie, even if that means relocating to the other side of the world.

And if anyone tries to suggest that this is selfish, they are actually arguing against protecting your physical and mental health (whether they know it or not) -- it's like denying a man of proper nutrition, rest or exercise. His physical and emotional health will suffer, and statistically, he will die younger

This is pure gold, Merc! I totally agree. Hehe, If you can come up with good stuff like this every week, you might be able to have your own radio show for pissed off men like Tom Leykis or at least create some podcasts or Youtube videos like Michael Goodspeed.

Cheers

[ladislav]

Well, since many people who move abroad through those sites are socialist-leaning Western women, it would be seen as un-pc to say that. It would offend them. Plus it is just too personal. It would make many people appear as social losers and exploiters of poor 3d-worlders- double un-pc in today's anti-Capitalist age. That is why they say 'meeting new people' . What do you think they mean by that? You've got to learn to read between the lines.
People do not want to lose face, you see.

[Winston]

Well, since many people who move abroad through those sites are socialist-leaning Western women, it would be seen as un-pc to say that. It would offend them. Plus it is just too personal. It would make many people appear as social losers and exploiters of poor 3d-worlders- double un-pc in today's anti-Capitalist age. That is why they say 'meeting new people' . What do you think they mean by that? You've got to learn to read between the lines.
People do not want to lose face, you see.

W: True. That's why when people in Taiwan ask me why I'm in the Philippines, I have to say something like "Cost of living is cheaper there. People are more open and friendly so I have more fun and more free time to have fun and relax. Plus there was too much racism against Asian males in America."

I guess that's a more acceptable thing to say? What do you tell people Ladislav?

[gmm567]

people don't want to lose face.. Yes...we have that here in the states too; we just don't say it or call it "face"

[ladislav]

I guess that's a more acceptable thing to say? What do you tell people Ladislav?

I tell them I am on vacation, going to beaches and making friends and, God willing, looking for a good place to retire. You have to be discreet. Discretion is the better part of valor. I am always passing through. At least in the eyes of the people around me. That is what being a PT is all about.

Another thing to keep in mind is- many of these expat sites cater to families. Husbands taking jobs overseas and retirees ( empty-nesters) moving to Panama or Costa Rica, etc. It is not always single guys that do that. There are all kinds of people who are expatriating. In Mexico, American retiree communities consist of a lot of gray haired couples who have bought houses there. Can you imagine sites that cater to that crowd listing whoring or nympho-maniac-ing as part of the attraction of their retirement community?

Most young men do not go abroad, by the way. Only some do. A huge percentage of people who are expatriating are couples in their advanced age. The PT movement and gallivanting about Europe and Asia by young men is not where it is at when it comes to percentages.

Plus many of those sites advertise products and services that cater to wealthy and conservative people who wish to buy $400,000 houses in Spain. There are lawyers advertising various services there. Medical insurance companies and offshore banks. See what I mean?

[momopi]

Plus many of those sites advertise products and services that cater to wealthy and conservative people who wish to buy $400,000 houses in Spain. There are lawyers advertising various services there. Medical insurance companies and offshore banks. See what I mean?

That's also where the $$ is. I mean if you setup an ex-pat site to make $, you want to target older, wealthy people.

[momopi]

I have this idea. I am not sure what to call it yet.
3,546 USD is the average Filipino income per year. This is called gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita income.
For about 40 USD you can get a good all nigher from a GRO, 13.5% of an average Filipinos monthly wage.
46,900 is the US average to keep things relative to the Philippines, 13.5% of a monthly US monthly wage, this would come out to around 530 USD for a good all nigher from a US whore. I don't even know where you could get this kind of service at or if it could be had for this price.
For every dollar you spend in the Philippines to have the same effect on a US chick you would have to spend 13.23 times as many dollars to get the same effect.
Let me ask you this, how do you think chicks would feel about you if you made 620K a year? Trust me on this they would give it up very quickly and "fall in love" with you very easily. This is not a condemnation of women, it is just the way they are just like most guys enjoy a young girls tight body and a sweet attitude many young girls have. Most of us guys are not interested in a woman who looks like an old Firestone tire.

Hi Tom,

You have the right idea. However, please consider that wealth distribution in PH is pretty extreme. According to their government (NSCB) statistics, less than 1% are upper income, 20% are middle income, and 80% are low income. Google "Trends and Characteristics of the Middle-Income Class in the Philippine".

A typical middle quality prostitute in the US can be found on sites like Cityvibe.com, charging ~$250/hr.

The Russians are trying to copy Cityvibe and you see web sites like http://www.intimcity.ru

It's interesting to note that most US escorts only post hourly rate, versus the Russian ones I think post all night rates. But I don't speak/read Russian, so maybe one of our forum members who do can translate:
http://www.intimcity.ru/persons.php?id=78619 (I assume $645 is the all night rate)